Has it even been confirmed that it has anything to do with the bloody superuser list? Admo didn't mention anything about that, I don't recall *TT*'s post saying it and Shaundeeb just said there were specific questions for Annie Duke.. So wtf did this superuser story come from that keeps being thrown around?

I haven't read the entire thread and just saw that being discussed in the last few pages.

Yah not directed at you entirely, just the last few pages are full of it and I dunno where it was mentioned first.

Lets people know if they were cheated by more people than they thought and also shows whether UB was complete in their refunding.

lol

:facepalm

But once again....do you really think UB would ever be truthful if they agreed to release such a list?

has Annie Duke ever been to Africa?

QFT, awesome job by Admo IMO

I think so. I heard she said "yes" even though nobody asked.

Is there any reason to believe UB will release the names for this $50k (If this is the intention)? I don't think this has any leverage at all. It'll cost UB millions if they did short the refunds just for $50k. I'm failing to see where this would work?

PR

I don't believe this will bring UB to make any sort of list public, but it will give them a little bad publicity when they don't.

Thanks for that.

[x] confirmed

LOL

It would be standard if he did it. Even the government is doing stuff exactly like this, e.g. attaching online poker bills to unrelated stuff... He learned from the best...

Plz wake me up when something tangible happens ITT.

As far as I can tell, the last 200 posts are just 2p2'ers speculating over some completely unsubstantiated connection b/t Admo's donation and the UB superuser list.

LOL!...

brainwashdodo, the person that posted some apparent inside info on/from UB, also started the Brandon Cantu stiffed the dealers thread?!?!?!?!?!!!

No, that was someone else.

I think you missed a crucial "either" there.

His critics have a point if Admo really is using this as leverage against UB. The point they have is that this is a petty and inappropriate move. He was also less-than-forthcoming in his original post in this thread where he suggested that his lack of donation was simply due to being harassed by the tournament staff (again assuming the UB theory is true).

Even great, stand-up guys make bad judgement calls from time-to-time.

Charity nazis when it comes to donating other people's money, anyway. I'd suggest that anyone who feels that strongly might want to make a donation of their own instead of telling other people what they should do.

From his original post and recalling his discussion with the person asking him how much he will donate.
How is this "less-than-forthcoming" and suggesting "that his lack of donation was simply due to being harassed by the tournament staff?"

So basically your saying, that someone who enters a poker tournament with the intention of doing something good for poker and for a charitable cause, has made a bad judgement call? He was expected to give away 50% of his winnings. He planned to give away 100% in return for a scumbag, whose only interests regards charitable work are self-serving, to release a list of names of other scumbags. How is any of that sketchy on his part? How is that exercising poor judgement? How is any of that petty or inappropriate? You don't think this is exactly what most groups who give aid do? The US government demanded that the British give up their empire in return for aid. Was that a petty and inappropriate move on their part?

Yeh its amazing how many people there are criticising someone who actually spent the time trying to do something for charity. Maybe they should get up from behind their computer screens and actually do something good themselves, rather than berating someone because they were a few days late in making a donation. I have friends who have given up years of their lives to go over to third world countries and try and help however they can, through medical work, building schools, educating - whatever - and I can say with almost 100% certainty they'd be fully behind Admo on this.

Thats the thing. Its win win. UB said they would release the names, and this highlights that they didnt - even if they brush it aside.

It also has the effect of further linking Duke to the UB theft - she wants to be the face of the company, then why not have her face some questions about it.

Fwiw, i think Admo's best line is to donate half and then pledge the further half when UB backs up their promise to release names. The trouble however is they can just take the "expected" 50% donation and brush off the rest.

At the end of the day, this will all come down to how the media portrays it. If Admo doesnt mind being a martyr to the cause then withholding 100% until they release these names is the best way to maximise pressure. The problem is there are lots of idiots (see this thread) who will say stuff like "he doesnt care about starving African babies zomgbbq!!!111".

I mean its in no way innaproriate or petty if UB has a large interest in this event - and looking over who is involved with Duke being one of the three who started the "charity" and Hellmuth being involved as the host (or however you would describe what he did).

Its all speculation that is what the plan is/was - but from his very first reply in the comments on that linked page in the OP he stated he wanted to speak to Duke firstly before deciding on what to donate. Bolded to make it easier to spot when skimming my usual war and peace reply.

The fact he was harrassed wasnt really brought up as an excuse for him not dealing with it, merely for a reason he was too pissed off at them to deal with it at that moment.

Anyway, maybe its just me, but any opportunity to bury UB is a worthwhile shot to take imo.

Extremely Q&D (No photoshop on this machine), but if someone beat me to it I was going to cry.