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07-04-2009 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
I disagree strongly.

I like how you have David Cross in your avatar, a guy known for his ironic/ sarcastic humor, yet you can't tell when people are being sarcastic in this thread.
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07-04-2009 , 03:57 AM
michael jackson

popcorn

love you admooooooooo
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07-04-2009 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cwar
Not all charities are created equal, the % of each dollar that gets used for charitable purposes vary widely. After the way that the charities managers have handled the situation I think its completely reasonable to ask some questions, any charity with a good structure and intentions will happily answer such requests.

I think its the correct reaction that Admo might question what was going on with that organization after and how he was treated and consider another charity if its not a good situation.

Edit: You are right pineapple, Admo did probably put himself in a bad spot.
http://www.charitynavigator.org/inde...ary&orgid=5415

Charity Navigator tends to keep track of the charities and their expenses and revenues. They do the best they can and according to the numbers Refugees International is better than most at putting the dollars toward the charity and not just their pockets but you never know when the money is on the ground and in the field.

Organizational Efficiency
Program Expenses 87.0%
Administrative Expenses 5.4%
Fundraising Expenses 7.4%
Fundraising Efficiency $0.07
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07-04-2009 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by melissah
ok johnny hughes is just plain creepy. im too tired right now to outline the obvious but i think u all know what i mean.

im in the "yeah admo" camp, i like him. ive had several email exchanges and i believe him to be one of the good guys.

i love how when a smart guy figures out a prop bet that no one can beat everyone rags on him. admo has done this numerous times.

i know never to bet with him, that he will always have the best of it. i also know that if someone tried to bet me, admos the guy id go to for advice on said bet.

his photoshop work is among the best out there.

as for the charity tournament. he is allowed to enter, win, and not donate a cent.

but he didnt. instead he wins 2nd place goes to converse with his wife. while doing so he is strong armed for a donation?

he was also forced to account to all of us as to the state of his wifes pregnancy which, to me is a private matter.

quite frankly if i were admo i would get a gaurentee from the organizers that no one will ever again be harassed under to give a donation before i gave AUFA one cent!

i also believe that when dan shak and johnny world gave 100% of their winnings a bad precedent was set.

if they only allowed you to give up to half i believe many more people will play.

i just dont think theres anything wrong with playing a tourney and keeping half, or the more charitable way to look at it would be to give half.
best, melissa
you must not have dealt with these matters often. as no one among us was there we cannot say how far they went to get his donations.

But from my guess is that in the past an AUFA member would approach the winners with a pledge sheet asking how much of their winnings they want to donate. Something that everyone who eneters the tournament should expect. Sounds like he was given more than a few chances and is wrong for not donating (yet) and is making this a mess over the email.
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07-04-2009 , 04:43 AM
I seriously hope this is not about the UB scandal. The guy is as bad as Russ if it is
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07-04-2009 , 05:01 AM
It would be wrong if he were asking for something unreasonable. UB needs to be forced into giving up the list by any means necessary at this point.
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07-04-2009 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowsub
all,

adam is not going to keep any of the $, i dunno where this started.

he spoke w/ a few of us before the tourney, basically saying what shaundeeb wrote about contributing 100% once the company Annie is the #2 spokesperson for finally made good on their word to the poker community & released the full list of superuser names & granted access to hand histories. he even has a website setup for it, i cant remember the name.

also, this event had UB all over it, a number of the celebrities were wearing UB patches & hellmuth was the MC for the duration of the time i was in the mtt.

admo a standup guy & deserves nothing but our support in this matter.
Lol this is ****ing bs beyond ******ed stupidity. HEY IM GONNA LET PEOPLE IN AFRICA DIE SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UB SCANDAL.

You idiot piece of ****.

Is UB or Annie sponsoring this event or what is this ?
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07-04-2009 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomtah
Lol this is ****ing bs beyond ******ed stupidity. HEY IM GONNA LET PEOPLE IN AFRICA DIE SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UB SCANDAL.

You idiot piece of ****.
Idiot maybe you should learn if Admo donates 50k to a BS charity it isn't gonna save thousands of lives. MAYBE U SHOULD MEET SOME OF US THAT PLAYED POTRIPPER HEADS UP IN LIMIT AND LOST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND SAY THAT TO OUR FACES! Idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to post on the internet!
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07-04-2009 , 06:02 AM
Hilarious that anyone thinks ESPN will give two ****s about this. You think they're going to suddenly divert 30 mins of coverage to some stupid argument about a totally unrelated issue? They'll just say the whole event was a great success, hooray for charity etc etc.

Seems a pretty dumb thing to do - if you don't like the way the charity itself works, fine, don't donate and give elsewhere, but getting something completely unrelated involved just makes you look very stupid. In the bigger picture surely a charity is a far more important cause than some list of names only a bunch of basement-dwellers care about.
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07-04-2009 , 06:12 AM
johnny hughes, you're a knuckle head.

lots of charity nazis in this thread and at that donkament, clearly.

admo can do whatever he wants with his money. seems like he has got some charity plans anyway. lotta haters everywhere.
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07-04-2009 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
Some of the people I really respect on here think my comments were out of line. They know Admo, and I do not. So, I will apologize to him, while we wait to see how this develops.

I have always defended the lone individual against the mob, right or wrong.

I defended Dutch Boyd, Joy Miller, Brandi Rose. She wrote me nice letters.

I defended Steven Ware. We exchanged letters.

There is a psychological effect called, in context, scapegoating, in a therapy group or sensitivity group. When everyone gangs up on one person, the leader must pull them off. like a bull fighter in a rodeo. This is to avoid a psychotic episode, or worse.

Our defense systems are geared to argue with one or a few people, however we simply cannot handle a lot of negative feedback at once from many people. I could definately see that situation with Steven, Brandi, Joy, and Dutch. What the **** difference does it make what they have done??? When thousands and thousands of people attack one person, it is my duty, my duty to defend that person, and to reach out for some fun and funny private messages.

I felt Admo's attacks on Steven, and contacts with Steven's parents went over the line.

I really worry about the Internet effect of having one person attacked by thousands. Today, that might be Admo. As calmer heads have said, let us hear the whole story and see what he donates.

Early on, Kevin Mathers suggested Admo pick a charity he liked. That is a good idea.

Johnny Hughes, Ph.D.
So you "always" defend the lone individual against the mob, but in this one case where you would actually be right in defending the individual (admo), you decide to take the mobs side.

Surely you must understand how ridiculous this is? But you probably don't. You're a loser chump trying to build your own false legacy based on other persons fame.
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07-04-2009 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmNuts
I seriously hope this is not about the UB scandal. The guy is as bad as Russ if it is
I think if this is about the UB scandal, the guy is problaby worse than Stalin and Mao combined.

What's wrong with you people? How does anything anyone could ever do in the tourny be as bad as what Russ did? Even if someone didn't give any of the money they won in a tourny where they are expected, but not required, to give a % of their winnings to charity, how is this comprable to ripping off millions from people by cheating?

This thread contains so much **** I want to ban everyone who posted in it, starting with myself.

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07-04-2009 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
What's wrong with you people? How does anything anyone could ever do in the tourny be as bad as what Russ did? Even if someone didn't give any of the money they won in a tourny where they are expected, but not required, to give a % of their winnings to charity, how is this comprable to ripping off millions from people by cheating?

This thread contains so much **** I want to ban everyone who posted in it, starting with myself.
Nooo! Don't ban anyone. Actually, that 'email' has done more good than harm by bringing to light an issue that most likely wouldve been swept under the rug. We need the nvgtards to keep posting their non-sense to increase the exposure of this thread/UB issue.

Obv if Admo donates he's in the clear. I don't see anything wrong with anyone leveraging their position for 'charity' and by charity meaning helping those who can't help themselves, such as those who lost millions playing against a cheater. The sick thing is that this is totally selfless in the fact that he (Admo)wasn't planning on profitting a single penny (according to the gossip). Now ask Annie, Phil H, WSOP, or ESPN their position on what they look to profit from having A-listers and poker players donate their hard earned cash for charity. Oh the hypocracy...

Last edited by gregorio; 07-04-2009 at 07:22 AM. Reason: ooops, my quote spelt **** wrong.
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07-04-2009 , 07:16 AM
So which one do y'all think is Annie, Gobbofan or warmnutz??
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07-04-2009 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowsub
all,

adam is not going to keep any of the $, i dunno where this started.

he spoke w/ a few of us before the tourney, basically saying what shaundeeb wrote about contributing 100% once the company Annie is the #2 spokesperson for finally made good on their word to the poker community & released the full list of superuser names & granted access to hand histories. he even has a website setup for it, i cant remember the name.

also, this event had UB all over it, a number of the celebrities were wearing UB patches & hellmuth was the MC for the duration of the time i was in the mtt.

admo a standup guy & deserves nothing but our support in this matter.
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seriously you nvgtards need to realize that everybody in this thread that has ever played higher than 10nl has done nothing but back up admo. this says something does it not
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07-04-2009 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
Some of the people I really respect on here think my comments were out of line. They know Admo, and I do not. So, I will apologize to him, while we wait to see how this develops.

I have always defended the lone individual against the mob, right or wrong.

I defended Dutch Boyd, Joy Miller, Brandi Rose. She wrote me nice letters.

I defended Steven Ware. We exchanged letters.

There is a psychological effect called, in context, scapegoating, in a therapy group or sensitivity group. When everyone gangs up on one person, the leader must pull them off. like a bull fighter in a rodeo. This is to avoid a psychotic episode, or worse.

Our defense systems are geared to argue with one or a few people, however we simply cannot handle a lot of negative feedback at once from many people. I could definately see that situation with Steven, Brandi, Joy, and Dutch. What the **** difference does it make what they have done??? When thousands and thousands of people attack one person, it is my duty, my duty to defend that person, and to reach out for some fun and funny private messages.

I felt Admo's attacks on Steven, and contacts with Steven's parents went over the line.

I really worry about the Internet effect of having one person attacked by thousands. Today, that might be Admo. As calmer heads have said, let us hear the whole story and see what he donates.

Early on, Kevin Mathers suggested Admo pick a charity he liked. That is a good idea.

Johnny Hughes, Ph.D.

Although i don't think the content of this post reflects your true motives behind some of the comments you made itt and in the past, i will for the sake of argument respond because apparently we share a heartfelt dislike for online mobmentalities that unfortunately are so common.

I agree on your thoughts about scapegoating, that so easily grows into a disproportionate unforgiving stake-burn of people, i disagree with what you think is the appropiate course of action is to battle it when you see it.

You are not helping anyone by sticking up for them regardless of their faults, and downplay or sugarcoat their attitude and actions just to counterbalance the relentless hate displayed by others.

What you want to do as an outsider imo, is to reflect on any case in an objective and honest way possible, WITHOUT the emotional component that always adds so much fuel to the fire. You address the 'accused' on his or her faults and its implications without(!) constraints, and by doing so hand them the opportunity to find back some moral ground if they take appropiate actions in regard to their past behaviour. You can adress the 'mob' as well of course, although obviously its a fight lost before it even begins. That doesn't mean it's a fight not worth fighting though.

If you are able to do this, you criticise them in a constructive way as opposed to the destructive manner lots of 'mobs' go about online. This imo is the only way that has the possibility of creating a small window where all parties involved in a dispute to get some satisfying perspective longterm wich is needed for everybody to settle something and hopefully 'move on'.

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07-04-2009 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
seems pretty useless. ub can just release a bunch of names and say its the "complete list."

and, anyway, the names are only scratching the surface of the crap that went down there.
which only makes me question their intelligence anyway. seriously, these people are so ******ed that I can conclude nothing else besides they will try it again. To my knowledge the key figures in the scandal are still at the top of the ultimate bet hierarchy. screw them and bravo admo
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07-04-2009 , 08:20 AM
Was it 2500+2500 last year? Am I imagining things?
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07-04-2009 , 08:24 AM
If the other posts in this thread are correct, 2500+2500 would not be legal in Vegas so you are probably imagining things.
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07-04-2009 , 08:26 AM
For all three years that Ante Up for Africa has been held, it has always been suggested that players who make the money donate at least half of their winnings.

2007 Press Release

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07-04-2009 , 08:28 AM
I'll say one thing for Admo, he never created a facebook account and sent out mass friend invites to random people who had the keyword poker on their profile. I'm looking at you Johnny Hughes (Lubbock, Texas).
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07-04-2009 , 08:29 AM
and by suggested you mean you will be publicly outed if you do not immediately do so
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07-04-2009 , 08:40 AM
lol at ******s trying to say that this is not the time or place to bring up the UB scandal admo

yes SEPARATION is the most important value in today's society, not honesty integrity truth love or anything like that, no it's SEPARATION

you must keep things SEPARATE
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07-04-2009 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
I think if this is about the UB scandal, the guy is problaby worse than Stalin and Mao combined.

What's wrong with you people? How does anything anyone could ever do in the tourny be as bad as what Russ did? Even if someone didn't give any of the money they won in a tourny where they are expected, but not required, to give a % of their winnings to charity, how is this comprable to ripping off millions from people by cheating?

This thread contains so much **** I want to ban everyone who posted in it, starting with myself.
+1, I was going to quote that part as well and comment, but you already had done so. This thread tilts me so much.

Last edited by gregorio; 07-04-2009 at 09:30 AM. Reason: in case anyone is wondering, I actually don't think Admo is worse than Stalin and Mao combined.
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07-04-2009 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryno
I've always thought Johnny Hughes was a really bad gimmick account
omg this. I've had him on ignore for like 2 years.
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