So you're saying that he doesn't care about the african babies? You're saying that he just entered into the tournament because he had a grudge against UB (which if he doesn't make the money he has no leverage). Also he entered the tournament because it was a soft field and planned on skimping the donation? Or any number of other reasons?

So what point do you think his critics have? That he didn't give the charity any money? Well he did pony up 5k to buy in. The fact that he left his "winnings" in the cage says that he is not finished with the charity. Do we not remember a certain Main Event champion doing the same thing and catching a lawsuit for it?

We need the Chainsaw in here to give us his reasoned opinion on the situation.

Charitygate 2009

LOL 'sup Steven?

doubt you could be more wrong, stop posting and go crawl into a hole

Daniel N.:

I'm often asked what makes me think that this woman is such a low
life. Here are just a few examples of facts that make up what this
woman truly is as far as I‘m concerned. For those of you who don't
care to read it, you can stop now and save your complainin':

1) Wanna Split it?- Playing in a stud 8 or better side game, Annie was
heads up with one other player. After much betting it appeared as
though Annie had the high hand and the other had a low made by sixth
street. The player with the low board asked if she wanted to split
it. Annie said, "Yeah, ok". The player threw his hand toward the
muck expecting the dealer to start chopping the pot, when Annie said,
"Wait, only if you have a low I mean."
Once she said yes however, the pot should ethically be split.
Despite virtually everyone in the game explaining to Annie that once
she says yes to a chop, she has to chop. She wouldn't budge.
Finally, after much hysteria she decided to give the player back ONLY
the money he put into the pot. Had the tables been turned, she's
still be blue in the face about how unfair that was.

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2) I swear on my kids!- Annie habitually leans over to look at the
cards of the person sitting beside her in a game, whether they like it
or not. Well one day one of the players was fed up with her sweating
her neighbor's hole cards and he spoke up about it. She obliged
saying, "Ok, I won't look anymore."
Not an hour later, a triple draw hand comes up, and she is caught
red handed looking at her neighbor's hole cards again. This time the
player objected furiously, "I told you to stop looking at your
neighbor's cards!" To which she replies, "I SWEAR ON MY CHILDREN I
WASN'T". This was an absolute lie. She saw EXACTLY what card her
neighbor got and ANNOUNCED the hand before it was turned over, also
saying something to the effect of, "Oh you would have made it anyway."
**A 4 had been flashed that would have been her neighbor's card.
Instead she received a 6 to complete a 2-3-5-6-7, which is the third
best hand in 2-7 triple draw (the 4 would have been the mortal
nuts).** Later, Annie falsely claimed that the player who was upset
with her threw a chair AT HER. Again, impossible.

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3) Just checkin'- Playing in a one table satellite for the main event
at the WSOP, Annie was up against Tony Ma and Dan Alspach. Tony moved
all in on the button, Annie folded in the small blind and Dan began
studying. After some time, Dan folded his hand, and Tony threw his
cards towards the muck telling Dan "Aces. I had two Aces." Well
after the hand hits the muck, Annie GRABS THE HOLECARDS, LOOKS AT
THEM, and says "Just checkin‘" as if she had done nothing wrong.

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4) Sitting in a short handed 300-600 mixed game in 1999 I was
unfortunate enough to have to sit beside Annie. Again, she has a
simple rule that she lives by, "It's ok for me to look at your hole
cards when I am out of a hand but I can't show you mine because I
can't give away any information". Niiiice. Anyway, after about 30
minutes of her sweating my hole cards, I KINDLY say, "I'd actually
prefer it if you didn't look at my hole cards since we are short
handed and all." (5 handed at the time). About 15 minutes later,
another player sits down in the game making it six handed.
So know after I've raised before the flop and she'd folded, she
looks over at my hole cards again. This time saying, "It's six
handed, I can look now". Niiiice.

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5) Oh my God, it's so my seat- On a Monday night Annie walked into the
poker room to put her name on a list. When the seat opened up, the
floor man called out a name that wasn't yet present. Annie said, "If
he's not here it's my seat." To which the floor man replied, "He's
just outside, he's on his way."
"Oh my God no way! You can't do that! You can't lock up a seat if
you aren't even here!" After much bickering the poor floor man
succumbed and gave her the seat.
Wednesday night, EXACT same scenario, only this time Annie was the
one who was first up on the list but not present at the time the seat
was called. Now this time, she is arguing for the OPPOSITE ruling.
"Oh my God, I was right here. I was here to put my name on the list.
I didn't even leave the building" (how the floor man is supposed to
know that is anyone's guess). Anyway, after throwing yet another
hissy fit she got that seat too. This is one of Annie's common
practices: "Argue NOT for what's fair and just, argue only for what
benefits you." Niiice.

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6)This is the worst thing that has ever happened to me in a
tournament- At the WSOP main event in 1999, Annie was involved in a
pot with another player who had limped under the gun. Annie raised
the limper from the button with A-7 offsuit. When it got back to the
limper, he went to make a raise, but DIDN"T SAY RAISE, and then went
back to his stack to raise even more. Well, in any no limit
tournament that is considered a string raise. Not always called, but
it's a string raise nonetheless. Well, another player, Steve Kaufman,
called the string raise to the dealer's attention. To which Annie
shouted, "Oh my God, you're not even in the pot! What are you doing!
Oh my God, this is the worst thing that even happened to me in a
tournament!" etc.
She was upset with the fact that she had now been raised the minimum
by the limper and was "forced" to call the extra 60,000 raise. After
lambasting Mr.Kaufman for something he had EVERY RIGHT to do, she
ended up flopping an ace and WINNING the pot because of the called
string raise. "Well maybe that was the BEST thing that ever happened
to me in a tournament." Snort, snort, giggle, giggle.

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7) Cup Boy- Finally, my first ever meeting of this woman was at the
Four Queens in 1996 when I was just barely 22. Up to that point I'd
had virtually no success in tournaments in the US, but was eager to
learn from the so called "superstars" of the game.

** Before I go any further, It's important to give you a little
background info. At the club I played in in Toronto, we had no
bottled water, just purified water you could get from the gallon. So
I'd fill up a Styrofoam cup with water, and when it was empty, would
leave it hanging from my lips so the porter wouldn't take it away and
I'd have to waste another cup. This became somewhat of a habit you
could say.**

So here I am in this tournament, where across from me was this woman
and another well known tournament player. This woman doesn't know me
from Adam, but goes out of her way to ridicule and make me feel like
an outsider. As though I didn't belong in her "clique". After
witnessing her behavior I was pretty sure I didn't want any part of
that "clique" anyway.
KNOWING I could hear every word she was saying, she says to her
"clique" member, "Oh my God, what's up with cup boy over there. I
wonder what that cup's all about. You think it's for medical
reasons." She then went on to giggle arrogantly. At this point I
actually spoke up and said, "If you'd really like to know there is
actually a pretty normal reason for it?" Apparently acknowledging my
existence may have looked less "too cool to talk to the low limit
players" if you know what I mean.
In conclusion., with two odd tables to go I play a hand against her
in which SHE WINS. I had a good amount of chips at this point and she
was all in for less than a bet on the river. I had actually bet the
turn with a draw, and checked the river when I made a pair. The board
was (10-8-2) A- J. I held Q-J in the blind and called her raise from
middle position. I checked and called the flop, and bet the ace on
the turn hoping to steal it. On the river I made jacks, but didn't
think she would call me with a worse hand but may check a better hand
or even bluff. That's not important though.
What is important, is that she berated me for playing the hand that
way! "Oh my God, if you were going to call on the river anyway why
didn't you just bet?? I mean, oh you know what forget about it. I
shouldn‘t be educating."
I was beyond puzzled, but to be completely honest slightly
embarrassed. I was there alone and knew no one in the tournament
whatsoever. At the time I wasn't certain if I actually made a
horrendous error or not. I may have spoken 20 words the entire
tournament, and couldn't fathom why someone would want to be so mean
to a complete stranger?
Anyway, I later thought about the hand and realized that she was
absolutely WRONG about the correct strategy in that situation.
Considering the information I had, I played the river just fine.

Couple years go by, I get lucky and win a few tournaments… and all
of a sudden she is all nice to me. Phony nice of course, but nice
nonetheless. The more I got to know this woman however, the more I
was witness to her true colors and the more I disliked her. Despite
making my BEST efforts to tolerate her obnoxious personality I no
longer wanted to put up with it.
The only thing I'm sorry about in all this, is what it has done to
many of my friends who happen to have thicker skin than I and can
tolerate Annie. It puts them in a peculiar position. That I regret.
Other than that, NOTHING I've ever said to her, or about her is
something I'd ever consider apologizing for. Those are my true
feelings… and I sleep well..

You see, I don't NEED to be Mr. Phony Nice Guy, all I gots to be is
who I is. I ain't gonna say what y'all want me to say, I'm onna
say wazz on my minds when I feels like it. Na' I mean? Damn
straight.

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Don't get me wrong I've done some pretty stupid things in my time.
I'm not afraid or worried about what anyone has to say about me, it's
all out there. I have few secrets if anyway. I been broke, blew some
stake money, loaned railbirds, staked deadbeats, been on the borrow,
all kinds of bad decisions. That's real. In all honestly though, I
ain't NEVER disrespected no man or no woman unless they had it comin'.
I was never one to see bullies get their way, and I was never one to
close my eyes and shut my mouth when I see somethin' I don't like. I
keep hearing, "But Danny, this isn't in your best interest. "Danny
just go with the flow and don't rock the boat." Hell no!

You a cheat, I'll say so.
You a bi-atch-- I'll say so.
You a angle shooter, I'll let my peoples know.
You a fraud? huh, I'll expose you and feel no way…y'understan?

Gl Admo

I love it when danny talks ghetto.

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explain how I could be more wrong?

He entered a charity tournament where they ask for 50% of your winnings, and no one before Admo didnt settle a portion of their winnings as charity. Admo got second, and got mad that they asked what his contribution was going to be while on the phone. Now he does not want to pay, and has held payment obviously. Is that not childs **** or what?

As I said before, the whole time this issue has gone on. The only thing that had to have been done was what seventeen other players did, say a number form 0-100%. Instead of bitch and complain that charity tournament workers wanted their CHARITY. its a damn charity tournament, so pay up already. And until you pay up no one owes you an apology for anything. You should feel ashamed of yourself for making this much of a fuss over someone interupting your phone call.

The fact that he wants to negotiate a price with Annie D make me laugh now. If it is lower than 50% the guy is a douche bag, if it is more he is a genius

he wants annie to give up the UB superuser names... basically underscoring the fact that an unethical POS like her is star****ing her way into hosting a celebrity charity tournament.

This started over an interrupted phone call I thought? Maybe now you see its more than that in the first place.

As has been pointed out before, Admo has made no such declaration (yet) and any assumption in that general vein is just speculation.

Actually the people making the fuss over this are the AUFA people with the original press release. The money is still in the cage according to Admo.

If he hasn't collected his money then he can't make a donation, right?

screw annie duke. keep the money dude.

sounds like a good plan to me. Everyone enter her charity tournaments only to keep the money.

I've always thought Johnny Hughes was a gimmick account, like there was a guy here Kane Kung Fu or something like that who had the most hilarious gimmick accounts ever, one about a high school student challenging his teacher to a SNG.

But apparently there really is a Johnny Hughes. I just found that out today, with the help of Google (I am not old in real years but in 2+2 years I am 98). That doesn't mean he is the "Johnny Hughes" who writes things here, does it? I know sometimes 'celebrities' will have "confirmed" in their title, and 'Johnny Hughes' doesn't.

2+2 fan boys sure come out in full force when one of their own attention seeking heroes gets bad press. standard bs yet so funny

if that's true that's a good enough reason to not donate to them, any charity worth giving money to will make that information available

lots of stupid in this thread, but no one comes close to Johnny Hughes which is saying a lot

all,

adam is not going to keep any of the $, i dunno where this started.

he spoke w/ a few of us before the tourney, basically saying what shaundeeb wrote about contributing 100% once the company Annie is the #2 spokesperson for finally made good on their word to the poker community & released the full list of superuser names & granted access to hand histories. he even has a website setup for it, i cant remember the name.

also, this event had UB all over it, a number of the celebrities were wearing UB patches & hellmuth was the MC for the duration of the time i was in the mtt.

admo a standup guy & deserves nothing but our support in this matter.

I don't believe that happened.

Man, who cares? Sarah Palin says countries like Africa don't really need our assistance anyhow!

seems pretty useless. ub can just release a bunch of names and say its the "complete list."

and, anyway, the names are only scratching the surface of the crap that went down there.

Really isn't his forte.

admo is a champ

im confused.. your saying Admo agreed to give 100% once the superuser list was released by Annie...??

ok johnny hughes is just plain creepy. im too tired right now to outline the obvious but i think u all know what i mean.

im in the "yeah admo" camp, i like him. ive had several email exchanges and i believe him to be one of the good guys.

i love how when a smart guy figures out a prop bet that no one can beat everyone rags on him. admo has done this numerous times.

i know never to bet with him, that he will always have the best of it. i also know that if someone tried to bet me, admos the guy id go to for advice on said bet.

his photoshop work is among the best out there.

as for the charity tournament. he is allowed to enter, win, and not donate a cent.

but he didnt. instead he wins 2nd place goes to converse with his wife. while doing so he is strong armed for a donation?

he was also forced to account to all of us as to the state of his wifes pregnancy which, to me is a private matter.

quite frankly if i were admo i would get a gaurentee from the organizers that no one will ever again be harassed under to give a donation before i gave AUFA one cent!

i also believe that when dan shak and johnny world gave 100% of their winnings a bad precedent was set.

if they only allowed you to give up to half i believe many more people will play.

i just dont think theres anything wrong with playing a tourney and keeping half, or the more charitable way to look at it would be to give half.
best, melissa

Although I'm all for getting UB to come clean, I'm not sure this will come out well on ESPN if it gets any coverage... I'd assume ESPN has more of a vested interest in maintaining their Hellmuth and Annie Duke personality brand names than making an "unknown" (to the general public) out to be the hero. I certainly can see this being spun as "douchebag sitffs charity event"... regardless if that's the case or not.