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07-04-2009 , 08:21 PM
so Hunter =Annie Duke according to Admo...
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07-04-2009 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by *TT*
Admo - my best wishes are with you and your wife, I hope all is ok.
qft. hope everything goes well with the family. not that it matters when compared to your family, but everyone who knows you knows these accusations are ridiculous. there's no need to prove anything to us
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07-04-2009 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OnlineHandle
so Hunter =Annie Duke according to Admo...
Oh yeah? Show us where he says that or stfu and stop putting words in his mouth.
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07-04-2009 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by *TT*
Admo - my best wishes are with you and your wife, I hope all is ok.
Fk the other BS, take care of your family.
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07-04-2009 , 08:54 PM
Why hasn't Hunter been outed? Is s/he one of the people that was hounding Admo at the end of the tourney?

GL with the family Admo--if I didn't already have a great Dad you'd be a good choice.
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07-04-2009 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubChamp04
Oh yeah? Show us where he says that or stfu and stop putting words in his mouth.
Once things settle down for us here at home can you arrange a face-to-face meeting with "Hunter"? If I'm unable return to Las Vegas before the Main Event, I'll fly out to meet with her at your offices.


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good luck with your family admo. youve proven time and time again to be a great asset to these fourms and an all-around great person in regards to life. i wish you the best
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07-04-2009 , 09:01 PM
I dont think it's reprehensible to give less than 50%, even though I never would. Im at least honest enough with myself that the primary reason why I would give is so I wouldnt look like a total prick.

It's aggravating when people get really pissy about stuff like this.

I mean, I can understand why it might help society overall to impose these weird hive-mind norms and put pressure on people to follow them.

But you can be a good person, and decide to disobey the social norm. I think someones inclination to leave the full 50% (or 100%) in these spots depends infinitely more on how much they care what people think. Their overall net wealth is the next most important criteria. The factor that tends to matter least is genuine concern for the people of africa... and that's the behavior we should actually be celebrating.


I also dont think it's productive to try and out people like this. It seems like the reason they do it isnt because they want to correct that behavior, but because they want to feel better about themselves and/or find some juicy gossip.
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07-04-2009 , 09:55 PM
Admo,

Are we to assume no one has replied to any of your previous email?
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07-04-2009 , 10:08 PM
in before johnny hughes next cliffsnotes installment.

well handled admo. best wishes with the family concerns.
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07-04-2009 , 10:28 PM
If it is true that Admo is withholding his donation because Annie has not fulfilled some requests that Admo has made, then that kills his image right there as being a classy, stand up guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was the guy that was hounding Admo because he 'wanted to go home'.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 07-04-2009 at 10:34 PM.
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07-04-2009 , 10:33 PM
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If it is true that Admo is withholding his donation because Annie has not fulfilled some requests that Admo has made, then that kills his image right there as being a classy, stand up guy.
donating to charity in a way you best see fit is being unclassy?
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07-04-2009 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dysthymia
So basically your saying, that someone who enters a poker tournament with the intention of doing something good for poker and for a charitable cause, has made a bad judgement call? He was expected to give away 50% of his winnings. He planned to give away 100% in return for a scumbag, whose only interests regards charitable work are self-serving, to release a list of names of other scumbags. How is any of that sketchy on his part? How is that exercising poor judgement? How is any of that petty or inappropriate? You don't think this is exactly what most groups who give aid do? The US government demanded that the British give up their empire in return for aid. Was that a petty and inappropriate move on their part?
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Yeh its amazing how many people there are criticising someone who actually spent the time trying to do something for charity. Maybe they should get up from behind their computer screens and actually do something good themselves, rather than berating someone because they were a few days late in making a donation. I have friends who have given up years of their lives to go over to third world countries and try and help however they can, through medical work, building schools, educating - whatever - and I can say with almost 100% certainty they'd be fully behind Admo on this.
Good posts.

Best wishes to your family Admo.
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07-04-2009 , 10:46 PM
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donating to charity in a way you best see fit is being unclassy?
When you play in a tournament for a charity, you are expected to donate to that charity. If you don't want to donate to that charity, then don't play in the tournament. Make your own private donations on your own time. When you take the money yourself and do not donate to the charity, it does look a whole lot like taking the money and running with it. It's no surprise that people would jump to that conclusion whether it was true or not.

Of course, we know that is in all likelihood not the case. Admo appears to be a trustworthy person who will follow through on his charitable intentions. However, not donating to AUFA after playing a tournament set up to contribute to that charity is very odd and looks really bad regardless of your own personal intentions. Even if you do eventually donate, delaying this much also harms your reputation regardless of the reason why you delayed.

Mason highlighted the biggest problem and that is that the players have the option to not donate. Information on who donated and how much they donated should be kept private. Disclosing it in the way "Hunter" did is a good way to get taken to court for libel and character defamation.
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07-04-2009 , 10:54 PM
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When you play in a tournament for a charity, you are expected to donate to that charity. If you don't want to donate to that charity, then don't play in the tournament. Make your own private donations on your own time. When you take the money yourself and do not donate to the charity, it does look a whole lot like taking the money and running with it. It's no surprise that people would jump to that conclusion whether it was true or not.

Of course, we know that is in all likelihood not the case. Admo appears to be a trustworthy person who will follow through on his charitable intentions. However, not donating to AUFA after playing a tournament set up to contribute to that charity is very odd and looks really bad regardless of your own personal intentions. Even if you do eventually donate, delaying this much also harms your reputation regardless of the reason why you delayed.

Mason highlighted the biggest problem and that is that the players have the option to not donate. Information on who donated and how much they donated should be kept private. Disclosing it in the way "Hunter" did is a good way to get taken to court for libel and character defamation.
Civil disobediance, *****z.
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07-04-2009 , 11:07 PM
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If it is true that Admo is withholding his donation because Annie has not fulfilled some requests that Admo has made, then that kills his image right there as being a classy, stand up guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter was the guy that was hounding Admo because he 'wanted to go home'.
We're you too lazy to read what he wrote or too stupid to comprehend it?



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However I can promise you if anything changes as a result of this incident, it will be the vehicle of the donation, not the amount.
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07-04-2009 , 11:15 PM
If the story is true....

I would probably have done the same thing Admo is doing if a tournament organizer followed me into the restroom bugging me about the donation while I'm dealing with something more important. Hunter should be nervous that his/her actions may cost the charity some extra $$$$ more than Admo being worried about his reputation in the poker world.

Regardless of expectations, people are still donating some serious dough and don't need to be **** on while doing it.

The money probably won't even make it to the Africans. The conveys get hijacked by the rebels and money goes bye bye.
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07-05-2009 , 12:01 AM
Moral of this story:

Do not **** with Admo
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07-05-2009 , 12:14 AM
Admo,
I will be very disappointed if you donate so much as a penny to AUFA, after the way they have handled themselves. Donate whatever you were going to donate to the other African-based charity you mentioned, other than that, I think this whole thing so far has been well-played by you.
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07-05-2009 , 12:20 AM
Whole situation is a giant smelly cheeseball, imo.

meme to self : Do anything charity related quietly and anonymously as possible. Likely only yourself knowing will prob. be the best reward.
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07-05-2009 , 12:47 AM
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Admo said he was going to donate. Not like as soon as someone pledges their portion, the money is insta shipped to Africa anyway. Admo has a few questions for Duke .... that's his right. Dakarai's village will be getting that 100 lb bag of rice, those 5 ak-47s, and that RPG, soon enough. If Duke will Ante Up For Admo maybe he'll throw in enough for an extra 100 lbs of rice.
This post didn't get near enough love...
It's sadly probably pretty close to the real situation.
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07-05-2009 , 12:58 AM
that was such a trainwreck of a tournament stucture. this **** should have been stated written in a contract.
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07-05-2009 , 02:21 AM
disagreements about this issue aside, i sincerely hope that his wife and kid are in good health. life is too short.
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07-05-2009 , 02:46 AM
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Admo,
I will be very disappointed if you donate so much as a penny to AUFA, after the way they have handled themselves. Donate whatever you were going to donate to the other African-based charity you mentioned, other than that, I think this whole thing so far has been well-played by you.
This.

In fact, I think you have a moral responsibility *not* to donate to charities that use such tactics. By doing so, you only encourage them to keep on blackmailing donors, disrespecting people, etc. I have real concerns that a charity who can demonstrate such an egregious lack of ethics in their fundraising activities would behave in a more ethical manner when not in the public eye.

Hope the wife and Admo Jr. are both doing well. And obviously, you could do without any of this bull**** at a time like this.
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07-05-2009 , 03:02 AM
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Moral of this story:

Do not **** with Admo
qft
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