This just isn't true. Two and-a-half years ago Mat Sklansky and I had lunch with Joey and Doug Polk. One of the things that we did was to go over the ACR situation with the bots with Joey and Joey convinced us that there was a serious problem. We then informed ACR that when their advertising contract was up, which just happened to be soon, we would not renew it, and I believe they had been purchasing advertising from us for 16 years. Stopping this advertising was a significant loss to our website.

Mason

Kind of unbelievable for a CEO to state reasons for banning someone in those terms. Doesn't sound like the way most Ivy MBA CEOs of major corporations would talk. It also seems like he was banned for badmouthing ACR, not for any other violation.

There have been worse things said about ACR. Perhaps there are reasons 2+2 won't take their advertisements.

Little, however, has a great reputation. After winning two WPTs in 2008, he has devoted himself to poker education.

IIRC it took a pretty long time for the above mentioned to take place after it became a huge issue on 2+2, i wasn't aware of the lunch part just a general scheduled meeting. I do remember the poker comm reaching out to you the supposed supreme court so to speak for at least a month or 2 and you being MIA or taking a while to decide how to proceed when it was pretty obv to people far less skilled than you are at poker what was happening. Thanks for doing what you did but imo it was at least 2 months late probably more like 2 years but eventually u did the right thing well done. Sorry the loss of the adv revenue to the website, a lot of poker players lost $ playing on the site u were advertising also.

I just looked Jonathan Little up on YT. What I'm about to say is shallow and based solely on how he looks/sounds, in conjunction with only watching a few minutes of "him being him": But he looks/sounds like the overly enthusiastic/disingenuous seating host at the local Chili's or Applebee's.

this has to be so insulting to anybody who was around and remembers it happening in real time no? How lucky we are that Mat and Mason happened to go to lunch with Joey and Doug and have this topic come up after it was a huge issue on 2+2 ( the site Mason owns and prob pays the majority of his life expenses just a guess) for months! God forbid you actually talk about it when it happens na lets just wait to discuss it over a burger in a month or 2. thanks a lot bro I appreciate that and im sure all the HS cash players that lost big $ feel the same! If that random lunch didnt happen would WPN would still have a subforum here and Zack would be still greasing his pockets with btc cashout margins lol Lets start calling a spade a spade.

IIRC thats exactly what happened, you said you had a meeting and then radio silence for a cpl weeks then u prob met joey for beers and burgers and were like yah thats a prob oops well not renew the contract, thats what happened not ur fancy semi professional story about a lunch "meeting"

Don't drink and post online.

why cuz i speak the truth lol? or are my tyops too annoying?

We make the best decisions that we can based on the information that is available to us. If we acted a little slow relative to the speed that some people think we should have, I can't do anything at this time about that.

Best wishes,
Mason

Okay. Let's call a spade a spade. The purpose of the lunch with Joey was to discuss the situation of the bots on WPN and how accurate some of the claims were. It wasn't a random lunch where just by chance this topic came up.

Look. If you feel that we're evil, you're welcome to your opinion. But we do the best we can.

Mason

thats a standard bs excuse, same thing my step father said after hitting my mom lol. "seemed like the right thing to do at the time sorry if i wasnt thinking clearly or know the reality of the situation" I almost killed him when I was 12 Mom is fine ftr lol. Or here's another one, my autistic real estate tycoon pops used to say this all the time "sorry if this offends you but..(insert whatever incredibly offensive or abusive comment here).. I did the best I could with what I had to work with at the time.." and then it's cool nobody can disagree with u because of how u preceded whatever absurd statement came out ur mouth! Pretty slick right!

that's not an excuse IMO idk even know how to elaborate now but yeah so i guess if u say those few things one can do whatever they want or justify it afterwards no matter how poor or bad of a decision or action it was?

evil is a bit of an over statement, I'd say more like "slightly less than favorable" IMO in terms of a multiple choice answer on a survey. 2+2 has helped me over the yrs i wont deny that. But on a scale of likeability id rate 2+2 at a 1 or 2 out of 5, for function it being what its intended for, 2.5-3/5 so far. enjoyment of time spent here, 1.5/10 its been a very miserable experience for yrs if you didnt have a monopoly on the eng speaking markets and sites id prob not miss 2+2

What I don't understand is why Naggy can't just admit he screwed up and reverse the ban of Jonathan Little? This is wrong and has to leave a sick feeling in players stomachs. Why can't Naggy do the right thing? Too much pride and ego must be preventing Naggy from doing so which is a shame.

scroll up read my last few posts, IMO Nagy and Mason suffer from similar mental health issues preventing them from doing such. I have a few issues myself I'm not hating but as long as we're calling spades spades... Or it might be a business dec, more profitable to stand by the obv bs and keep spewing it for some reason?

Nagy and ACR are really answerable to nobody, except the invisible hand of a market that simply has very few competitors.

ACR is an illegal gambling syndicate akin to operations the mafia ran in days of old . Nagy seems to relish playing this Godfather tough guy figure, who isn't to be trifled with, and loves to publicly flex.

He knows degens gonna degen, and will always come back. Where else can us American's really go?

Hi guys! Jonathan Little here!....!!......!!!!
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree but then it's also hard to sympathize with someone that does the training website grift.

I have read carefully and do not understand what, if anything, your criticism of Little is in the ACR situation. I also do not see why you / 2+2 management didn't like him prior to this situation arising, even though you appear to be attempting to explain it in a couple posts in this thread.

In no way does Little come off looking untruthful or untrustworthy from this incident, or this thread. The fact that you think he does, and the fact that you don't like him but have not clearly articulated a reason why, really makes me think you are biased against him, whether you see it or not.

You mentioned more than once that risk/reward is a personal decision (I'm paraphrasing of course). Do you think Little ever said it was not a personal decision? When asked his opinion and he more or less said ACR was safe enough to play on, but don't store more money there than necessary (and it
is NOT safer than a bank, even though one of their paid spokespeople said it was) do you think he was giving bad advice, or that he was wrong, or that it was bad for poker? Are you implying he should have said, "that is a personal decision" and limited his answer to that only?

It is very strange for Mason to get so involved in this particular spot yet offer such little substance.

All the red names, that killer-watt guy (who probably should not post here ever, sorry todd) and the guy I'm not even going to name should never have entered this thread.

Read the thread title, the unnecessary tangents basically have sucked from the first mention until this very second.

Mason,

Can we please know what Joey provided as “proof” at the luncheon to convince you to stop taking ads from ACR?

This seems like pertinent information to the community.

I used to play on ACR in 2014-2016.. then cash games became unbeatable and I’ve moved my play away from that site.

Rjr777

this isnt the greatest thread ill say that

Bro I don't know if you're a micro player like me, but I just played a regular $25NL 6max sesh for the first time in a lonnng time (I usually play Blitz/fast-fold).

I don't know if this is a one off or what, but I got seated next to a legit fish (with position on the left). I'm literally talking about a unicorn here. He VPiPs at 72/11. I had only read about these things in fairytales.

just logged off the sesh 2.5x buyins up after a couple hundred hands and leaching off the fish to my right



see how this hand plays out; it was kinda like this all night with the guy; not sure if I'll ever find one again!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 45.64 BB
SB: 249.92 BB
Hero (BB): 110.84 BB
UTG: 114.64 BB
MP: 119.4 BB
CO: 108.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2 Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) Q 5 6
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3 BB, 3 players) 2
SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, SB raises to 9.8 BB, Hero calls 5.8 BB, BTN calls 5.8 BB

River: (32.4 BB, 3 players) T
SB bets 10.6 BB, Hero calls 10.6 BB, fold

ACR confirmed beatable...

Moving bankroll around now

jonathan little is a ***** who deserves to be banned from acr,

****in puke talks **** and cries wolf over beeing banned.

good job phil

but **** acr

Not sure why you would even post that hand. You do realize that you're the joke in that hand, right? Lol @ not stacking a monumental whale in that spot ...