Many years ago, UB gave me back $300 from the scam rebates. I'm sure it was only a fraction of what they stole from me, but I remember being surprised when it just showed up in my account one day without any notice. My account had been inactive for a while and had a zero balance at the time, so I took the $300 and immediately hit the tables with it. I mean, I knew I would never be cashing this money out anyway! Literally, on the very first hand dealt to me playing probably $1/$2 NL, I was dealt QQ. Some clown opens with a standard raise and I just jam in $300. I mean, WTF, why not? LOL. Folds back around to the clown who snap calls me with ATo. Yup, Ace on the flop and UB got the $300 back on the first hand I played! Thanks for the memories UB!

Recetly, Feruell post about it november 22, other dude that I know about same timing.


its complicated, economics, you know

username doesn't check out.

I can't believe it -- I finally received my payment as an international wire transfer -- over three years later from getting the first notice about a payment.

After the @AbsolutePokerClaims.com e-mail account stopped responding to my letters, I was sure I'd never see the money, but I'll be damned! Better late than never... way better.

My sincere thanks to the people that made it happen!

I cant believe I still didnt receive anything. If I got this money ever, which coin I should invest in? Need ideas.
Bitcoin is to expensive now. Want to buy at least 1 full coin that could go as high as 1 milliom, so I cant made prnt scrn and brag about this story 10 years after.

I WONT MILLION

since it's basically found money you should put it back into poker and stake some nl2 grinders for the lols

nah, I just want my money after 10 years of waiting.
Everyday I open email and there is still no money.
Can devs Do Something?

smb received money this year?
smb had answer from Carly Diroll-Black(Senior Attorney Advisor, DOJ)?

received this from Carol a couple of days ago


Hi, Mr. Borg -

I am awaiting information from our claims administrator on this matter. I will let you know if we are able to sent updated pay instructions once we have verified the information.

Thanks,
Carly

It feels like this money stolen second time. I was emailing this whole time and they send it, as they say at least, to wrong bank account and they say that they stop sending money more then half year after this.
This is so bad, we got from scum into another scum? Pls share ur thoughts.

GG WP =/

Just received same message, feel unfair, robbed second time. I was messaging that people from company that should send me money from UB for 4 years, once a month asking when Im gonna receive money and about my banking details and I didnt received a dime in the end.
Can we do anything about it?

I would hope not.

And I don't mean that to be unkind, or to aim it at you. Your specific situation sounds very unique and unfortunate. But in general terms, it was always likely that the funds available would not cover every last depositor, and they were going to come up short. There's no way the government, or anyone other than AP/UB ownership (LOL, like that will happen) should be making up the difference. There were always going to be losers in this process. When it comes right down to it, anyone who received any money was extremely lucky to have gotten even a dime. On the "fairness" scale, I'd say there have been a lot of people who have lost funds on sites when it was far less foreseeable than it was here, that didn't lose funds by supporting what they should have known was an extremely shady site, and I'd suggest it's unfair that they didn't have this kind of opportunity when AP/UB players did. Of course that doesn't change the fact that it would be extremely frustrating not to receive money from this process when you expected that you would.

As for whether you can do anything about your specific situation where I believe you received cheques you were unable to cash, it seems unlikely. But perhaps you could try to make contact explaining your unique situation, and see if there's anything they could do. Hopefully you still have the cheques and can provide them with a copy.

Well I completely missed this entire thread and missed the deadline by a few years it seems. I completely wrote UB off after FTP paid out and they seemed a lost cause.

I don’t even know which email account I had tied to UB or even where I was living at the time, or the amount I actually had (somewhere between 7-12k I think).

Based on Rick’s posts last page, I’m just gonna let it go unless something falls in my lap.

You win, UB. I am so sick of dealing with you and got over this sometime last decade. And I can’t even blame UB rn.

They did it again.

Fu, PH.

Let`s try to count how much money wasn`t paid. For me it is about 4500$ on UltimateBet (thank you Phil Helmuth, the moral compass of poker) and 3200$ at Absolute poker.
I really start thinking they might be stolen second time.

WTF are you talking about? It was stolen precisely once, by the shady site you played at.

How many sexual assault victims did you ask about being intoxicated?

I guess this is a very distasteful way of suggesting I'm victim blaming?

I'll admit that I do think that there are victims here who do deserve some of the blame. I've tried to avoid expressing that in this thread because it's not going to be especially productive, and I don't know everyone's individual circumstances. There will be people who were oblivious to all the shady **** Cereus was pulling. Sadly, there were others who knew perfectly well, but were profiting so they kept on playing there, to the detriment of the industry at large. But again, I don't know who that does or doesn't apply to, so I'm not going to blame any individual for their own fate here.

But that's not what my exchange with ilnine is about. They're directing their anger at the wrong party, and to their own detriment. I think there's very little chance they're every going to get their money at this point, but approaching this as if the DOJ has done people wrong has zero chance of success IMO. ilnine's situation is pretty unique, and I believe the best approach would be to get in contact directly with the Money Laundering & Asset Recovery Section, and explain the unique circumstances. Unlikely as this is to succeed, it is far more likely than trying to rally a handful of people to fight the DOJ on this.

Hey everyone. I am not on 2+2 nearly as much as I used to be but I remember frequenting this thread a few years ago. I played on UB and followed the steps to get my money back. From what I can recall it was a somewhat easy process and the money hit my account within a month or so? I cant remember specifically how long it took but that would be my guess. Are the former players not receiving money because they missed the deadline or are there players that took the steps I did and just never received a payout?

Accounts flagged as affiliates didn't get paid immediately. The problem was they lumped players whose balances were 99% affiliate commission and 1% poker play in with people who were 0.001% affiliate commission and 99.999% poker play.

$5630 😢

I did the same steps, but refund was something like lottery.

Chill, Bob.

There was a lot of money stolen, then a lot of noise about "victim remission". People can be understandably pissed off at the government-run remission process, and its costs and slow progress over many years.

I appreciate the walk down memory lane, but maybe lighten up on people who thought the light at the end of the tunnel was anything other than an oncoming locomotive.

Curious, is "deobligated" even a word ?

I'm perfectly chill, thanks. And I don't think I've been particularly harsh on anyone. The post before the one you're quoting, I tried to make it quite clear I wasn't targeting ilnine specifically with my very general commentary. Does my "WTF" come across to you as harsh in some way or something? Perhaps "What on earth are you talking about?" would do a better job of sounding incredulous and not unkind, IDK.

The point was this - ilnine keeps repeating that he feels like he's been stolen from for a second time. Which leads to your point:

Of course they can. They have every right to be pissed off at/frustrated by the process itself.

But ilnine's remarks about being stolen from twice combined with other comments like "Can we do anything about it?", "Can devs Do Something?", etc. make it sound like he's focusing the wrong energy on the wrong people. There was never going to be enough money; if the money is now all gone, getting a group of people together to demand the DOJ come up with more isn't likely to be productive. But his circumstances are quite unique, where he actually received cheques but was apparently unable to cash them - I wonder if he might actually have a chance at getting them to reissue his payments in some way. That's where I think his energy would be better spent, and that's the message I'm trying to relay.

You’re wrong, Bob.