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Old 04-13-2017, 11:45 PM   #351
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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rip 1,881,213 player points (18.8k tourny bux) as of 4/1/2011

obv happy for my bros getting paid tho. glglgl!
I had a bunch of FTP points that are gone too. We made the case that they should be reimbursed, but we didn't prevail. I didn't expect to, but asking has a higher chance of success than not asking.
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Old 04-13-2017, 11:52 PM   #352
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does anyone know the last time payouts were actually processed and if failed payouts are included in your balance?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:02 AM   #353
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I'm curious if anyone else is having the same issue as me.

I had an AP account and a UB account both with the same address. I only got a petition # for the AP account which I hadn't used in forever and I never got one for my UB account which is where I had a significant amount of money.

I called GCG twice now and they keep telling me they have NOTHING to do with Ultimate Bet. I tried to find the account by emailing them from my other email but they replied with the same petition and control #.

Any suggestions?
Enter your UB info into the website?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:03 AM   #354
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

I am still yet to receive the answer to the question of what a Canadian citizen is to enter in the SSN box. They seriously have no idea what they're doing over there lol.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:19 AM   #355
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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I had a bunch of FTP points that are gone too. We made the case that they should be reimbursed, but we didn't prevail. I didn't expect to, but asking has a higher chance of success than not asking.
all gravy. thx for all you've done while the rest of us sat around
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:18 AM   #356
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Typical gambler mentality, what if you ran it up to 100k ? would you be happy with your 39700?
Had it up to 88,000 to be honest but I would've never played if I knew I had any shot in getting paid
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:21 AM   #357
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

So just to be clear......people are getting paid from their last known balance which was about two weeks post Black Friday? Not on actual Black Friday when it was supposed to shut down? Can someone credible please answer this?
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:29 AM   #358
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Had it up to 88,000 to be honest but I would've never played if I knew I had any shot in getting paid
Yesterday i went to the casino and lost 8k, then my mom called and said she needed groceries because she had to pay her car repair. So i went back to the casino telling them the story and what do you think!?!?!?!? They give me back the 8k!!! They also handed me a bag full of groceries.

..........

LOL

On a serious note: I almost did the same stupid thing as u but i would have been to ashamed to even post it in here.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:46 AM   #359
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I am still yet to receive the answer to the question of what a Canadian citizen is to enter in the SSN box. They seriously have no idea what they're doing over there lol.
Do you have an ITIN number from recouping money the US has held off of any live winnings? If you do, you enter that.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:58 AM   #360
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

This is obviously completely different. First of all the United States department of justice siezed the websites as of April 15th.....why on earth were players allowed to login and freeroll themselves? I know of plenty of people who had elaborate chip dumping schemes post Black Friday on ultimate bet as they feared their money would be gone forever.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:13 AM   #361
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

No one needs to debate the "should favaloro get the money" question. It's a simple question: What is the date on which they are basing balances for reimbursement?
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:19 AM   #362
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Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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No one needs to debate the "should favaloro get the money" question. It's a simple question: What is the date on which they are basing balances for reimbursement?

Common sense: the last date you were able to log in to AP/UB, which was a few weeks after BF I guess.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:31 AM   #363
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

Really exciting news.
GL to all of us.

@momo_uk i think non-us players were able to play for several months
There were quite a few players who treated their balance as playmoney
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:40 AM   #364
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Really exciting news.
GL to all of us.

@momo_uk i think non-us players were able to play for several months
There were quite a few players who treated their balance as playmoney

That's what I said. Few weeks ~ few months.
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Old 04-14-2017, 05:25 AM   #365
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Common sense: the last date you were able to log in to AP/UB, which was a few weeks after BF I guess.
UB/AP was open to ROW a fair amount longer. I can't remember the date it officially closed but I do know I was able to change my address in early October of 2011 and attempted playing to get funds off that month (with no success obv).

I think it shut down to Americans in early to mid May of 2011.

The balance of your account should be whatever it was when the site shut down for good. So yes if you torched your account on April 15th, 16th, 20th, 30th etc. then you torched your account. It's not like the DOJ or whoever is in charge of this is going to look through records of every player's balance when the web site got taken down by the DOJ. Even if they could that information might not even be logged anyway.
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:01 AM   #366
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

Hey, I'm a ROW player, I've filled out the claims form with my ITIN number included but I'm unable to continue to my balance because of an error message which reads...

'Object reference not set to an instance of an object.'

Anybody else had this problem and know how to fix it? I've googled it etc and tried lots of ways of inputting my details.

Thanks.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:42 AM   #367
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Well if you think it's a good idea to leave the wrong address in there, you might as well change it to the north ****ing pole.

In the end I 100% guarantee your suppose to change it, and what you call "being careful" is really just being an idiot.
Upon logging in, it wasn't clear if their intention was for us _to change_ to our current address or _to confirm_ our old address. Adding to the confusion was a disclaimer at the bottom saying something to the effect of "If your contact information has changed email info@absolutepokerclaims.com." But no instructions about updating. Only a prepopulated address/email/phone. Get it?

After they held on to my money for six years, I'm not exactly "trusting."

It's now cleared up after speaking with them over the phone. According to 50% of the people I spoke with, we're supposed to update to our current info and notify them via email about the changes.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:44 AM   #368
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does anyone know the last time payouts were actually processed and if failed payouts are included in your balance?
April 13th, 2011 I requested 6k out. This got put back on April 15. I took a photograph of my balance. It is over 19k and correct to the penny. I never got the 6k else the balance would be 13kish.

Also someone was talking a page or two back about the govt garnishing your refund/remission if you have student loans and or outstanding tax debt. This is not true as when FT paid me 17k I had both student loans AND a large outstanding tax debt. I provided my ssn and they still did not garnish and the ach hit seamlessly.

I have since paid the taxes etc, and owed taxes have nothing to do with if you were a victim of fraud. Taxes are basically each and everyone's responsibility to pay.

Now if you never paid or reported taxes on your bankroll I feel you are stupid. I can see how they might look at that like they did with the guy who got 6fig from FT and subsequent IRS problems (remember that story?) Also I've been filing as a 713200 basically for a decade. That's the poker pro tax code. You are a victim of fraud. It doesn't matter if you're a pro. Still a victim and still owed money and the full amount.

Lastly what's up GCP!

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Old 04-14-2017, 11:01 AM   #369
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Do you have an ITIN number from recouping money the US has held off of any live winnings? If you do, you enter that.
I do not have one is this something they confirmed ? I have been waiting for exact confirmation of what they want me to put.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #370
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Also someone was talking a page or two back about the govt garnishing your refund/remission if you have student loans and or outstanding tax debt. This is not true as when FT paid me 17k I had both student loans AND a large outstanding tax debt. I provided my ssn and they still did not garnish and the ach hit seamlessly.

So why do they need our SSNs?
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:11 AM   #371
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

If anyone has had a reply in regards to what us Europeans/ROW players put in the SSN box please post ITT.

I am waiting for a reply about this before entering anything I shouldn't just in case.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:46 AM   #372
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I do not have one is this something they confirmed ? I have been waiting for exact confirmation of what they want me to put.
Yes, It says so in their FAQ #13.

"I do not have a Social Security Number because I am not a United States citizen, but can I still file a Petition?
If you are a U.S. citizen, or if you are not a U.S. citizen but you have a Social Security Number or Taxpayer Identification Number, you must provide it when you file your Petition. If you are not a U.S. citizen and if you do not have a Social Security Number or Taxpayer Identification Number, you must so declare under penalty of perjury when you file your Petition; you must also provide documentation evidencing your citizenship, such as a valid passport, by sending a copy of the document to the Claims Administrator either by email or mail. Do not send originals."


So, If you don't have a ITIN, it says "you must so declare under penalty of perjury". Whatever that means. But, since it won't let you file without filling in that slot, I guess just send them an email with your documents citing FAQ#13 and saying you'd like to file under penalty of perjury?
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:50 AM   #373
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So just to be clear......people are getting paid from their last known balance which was about two weeks post Black Friday? Not on actual Black Friday when it was supposed to shut down? Can someone credible please answer this?
the screenshots I have are dated 6/13/11 and Im assuming that was very close to when they shut down for Americans because I didnt play anymore after that and the balance they have on file for me matches my balance of the screenshot I took on that date down to the penny. You can certainly attempt to recover your money but I would say you have virtually no chance and a terrible argument. I continued playing after black Friday and ran my account up a decent amount before they shut down and that money is obviously included in the balance they have on file
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:41 PM   #374
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You realize they offered separate signup and frequent reload bonuses on every skin back in those days right? I routinely switched between UB and AP and never once multi-accounted.
yes, exactly.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:16 PM   #375
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So, If you don't have a ITIN, it says "you must so declare under penalty of perjury". Whatever that means. But, since it won't let you file without filling in that slot, I guess just send them an email with your documents citing FAQ#13 and saying you'd like to file under penalty of perjury?
I did so.
"I leave in xxxxx (nonUS resident)... I am unable to continue fill Petitioner Identification form because of lack of TIN or SSN..."
And emailed copy of passport.

Got a response
"Thank you for contacting us. Your Petition for Remission is not yet filed. In order to file your Petition, please access the online filing page at www.AbsolutePokerClaims.com, and log-in using the Petition Number and Control Number below. When filing your Petition, please use your last name as verification.

Petition Number: xxxxxxxx
Control Number: xxxxxxxx"
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