Originally Posted by Rnr_Rnr_Hobgoblin

It seems Benger is being judged off one thing. He admitted he lost his cool and said things he shouldn't have said. I'm a bit surprised there's a lot of judgment from it. I agree with others that say after 7 days of high stress poker all day long it's easier to get frustrated. I wonder how many hands were played at a table where WK played vs another average table.

Originally Posted by Boss716

Yea but if your gona get frustrated and snap at least say something cool instead of just showing that your a giant ***sy

Originally Posted by Labax

I really wanted kassouf to get there.

We should run a poll. Interesting to see amount of 2+2 that would of wanted benger to get two outered

Originally Posted by osefiwin

I am terrified by the amount of people who are more interested in criticizing the SJWs than in looking at the situation.

Seriously. If Benger had said "Consider things from other people's perspective" instead of "check your privilege" (which means the exact same thing in this context), very few people would be criticizing him. Kassouf was annoying, Benger is telling him that he is annoying even though he isn't breaking the rules. Benger's account is 100% accurate and most people agree with every part of this characterization.

But wait, he used a term that you associate with SJW. Privilege. THEREFORE, it's against freedom of speech (lol?), Kassouf is the good guy because he is politically incorrect (lol?), we need to defend him to show that we aren't part of the SJW group to this community that clearly holds no love for SJWs (btw, isn't that called virtue-signalling? Cause I thought that was a bad thing)...

Anyway, propagandists have done a very good job. A much better job than I thought they would have. Like I said, kind of terrifying, and kind of depressing too.

Originally Posted by PeteBlow

At the FT it would be awesome if Benger checked verbally and the whole crowd shouted, 'YOUR PRIVILEGE'

Originally Posted by big white cloud

A few things:

Lon wouldn't have a personality if it was surgically grafted onto his soul.

Originally Posted by big white cloud

I've been out of poker for a few years, but dipped back in when I saw the episodes come up on YT.

A few things:

Lon wouldn't have a personality if it was surgically grafted onto his soul.

Cliff Josephy has the smuggest, most punchable face in poke...scratch that...of anyone in anything ever.

The VT we saw of him earlier where it just amounted to him showing how great his life is....how were we actually supposed to react to that? Was it supposed to make us all warm and fuzzy inside that an ex banker has a great life?

I've been rooting against him hard since that vomit inducing clip.

The way he acted around Kassouf in general was appallingly childish as well. He's clearly quite controlling and a character like Kassouf was well out of his control and he couldn't handle it.

Telling the rest of the table they were in it together was just terrible. The extent Will got under his skin was surprising for an older gent.

Will Kassouf. I found his patter pretty grating immediately when it became obvious he had the same few lines over and over. Tanking on easy decisions is unforgiveable as well.

However, because we know he only has the same few lines in his pocket, the accusations of him being abusive is just laughable. All he says is about showing/not showing etc for hours and hours. Annoying? Of course. Abusive? Not from anything we were shown.

Vayo said he was abrasive and obnoxious. I've watched all the episodes back to back and he always seemed to have a smile on his face no matter what was happening.

Even when the crybaby c*nt slammed over his aces at the end he was still cool calm and collected and had a big smile on his face even though he knew he was about to get knocked out of the biggest payday he will likely ever have in poker.

You can't say the same for any of the others.

F*ck that utter CHILD who wouldn't shake Will's hand as well. That was absolutely appalling.

Lastly, I wonder how it will feel to be a global laughing stock within the global poker community - 'Check your privelege' will hopefully haunt Benger forever.

This has to be at once the cringiest, funniest and in many ways saddest line I've ever heard uttered on a poker table. I still can't quite belive he said it. I can't really believe anyone said it with a straight face even when it surfaced a few years ago.

In summary...they pretty much all looked and acted like utter children because someone took them so far out of their comfort zone. Kassouf is also a massive dickhead as well for slowing the game down to a brutal pace.

In the end, Josephy and Benger in-particular should be choking in embarrassment for the way they acted and what they said. I doubt they will though.

Actually, stick miserable casper the ghost wannabe Vayo in there as well for the exagerations he put in to everyone about Kassouf.

Oh yeah, and that poker pro (can't remember his name) who had a pop at all poker players for being dickheads without having the awareness to notice that he was also a big old dickhead himself. That was bad as well.

All round, a pretty sad look in at the poker world.

I'm team absolutely anyone but Josephy. I will cry if he wins.

Originally Posted by JCHAK

Niwiski Stoopidface - His poor sportsmanship was extremely weak, he will live to regret not shaking a downed opponent's hand, typical sheep.

Vayo - bandwagon child, obnoxious, typical entitled millenial, exaggerator & liar, could win the main event and will still accomplish less in life than a run of the mill landscaper.

Josephy - straight bully.

Blesnick - glass houses, stones etc.

Benger - Regressive leftist poster boy & f'ing psychopath.

Originally Posted by Tommy_Tomich969

Yup. Seemed like a great guy and had a nice little comedy duo going with Kassouf.

Originally Posted by U shove i call

Most of this is so wrong as we only saw their bad side due to WKs constant stalling and "speechplay". All well and good watching it for 20 minutes and thinking its fun but 10 hours in while hes making the whole table miserable with his intentional tanking is another matter.

A few years ago i was on his table in a £500 event in the UK. Was the same story taking forever to act getting the clock called on him every few hands. Managed to slowroll him for about 30 seconds when he shoved the river and its the only time i have ever done it. Instead of a outcry at my poor sportsmanship the whole table cheered. Can't believe how many people are defending him trust me if you had experienced his pace of play you would feel differently.

A normal person after having the clock called on them 100s of times over the years would reassess their behaviour and think hmm maybe i am taking to long. He knows exactly what hes doing none of it is friendly as he claims.

Hard to defend GBs check your privilege rant that was cringeworthy. Seems to me Niwinski and johnnybax wouldn't say a bad word to anyone at the table unless provoked for hours on end.

Originally Posted by BrainJail

I'd like to add the unpopular opinion if there was a person who truly brought down equality in poker by taking a victim mentality, it was Stacy Matuson. She's not a pro, but the way she handled it should be of great embarrassment to any woman poker player and feminist. When you play the role of a damsel in distress where there is no real danger, it shows a lack of character. Stacy should take lessons from Vanessa Selbst in the way she handled Kassouf - she just ignored him like a real professional would.

Originally Posted by TheFly

Maybe for the Final Table, Jack Effel can create a Safe Space next to the Penn & Teller Theater so Benger can seek solace from the Triggers and Microaggressions of playing poker.

Originally Posted by KansasCT

I also love how all the anti kassouf people always state things like "If you like kassouf you are just as stupid as he is". Really, am I stupid because I want to watch fun, exciting episodes of poker? Lol.