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Old 10-09-2016, 11:19 AM   #401
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Re: "9 high like a boss"

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I have no idea what you are talking about. But I assume that if I delve further into this thread, I am not going to like it. Presumably, it is already ****ed to hell anyway. Good luck.
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OP says Kassouf is a boss while J. Eifel is an idiot.

Stacey Matosun (alleged) shows up in thread defending her play, saying what a POS Kassouf was

Someone brings up the fact that Stacey and Jack have a close working relationship according to her dealer academy webpage and that it's a conflict of interest.

Stacey says that is the dumbest post she has ever seen or something like that and claims there is no relationship between her dealer academy and Jack/WSOP.

Someone does a Whois search that shows Ceasars owns her website domain.

Jack's picture is also posted on her website right below her picture.

She repeatedly deflects saying what a bunch of idiots we are all while never really addressing the conflict of interests.

It becomes quite clear she is probably not right in the head or doesn't understand what a conflict of interest is.

A bunch of other BS gets posted

Here we are


Pretty sure that is the thread in a nutshell but I may have missed or gotten a few things wrong.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:16 PM   #402
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Re: "9 high like a boss"

Don't forget the curious incident of the night time whisperer.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:17 PM   #403
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Kassouf is a disgustingly obnoxious selfish egomaniac idiotic punk ****face whose continued existence is an affront to poker. That's a fact.

It's a shame his appalling behavior and offenses make for good TV or whatever so he's getting so much coverage and we are here talking about his inanities (FML). But his pokering and antics wouldn't last a few minutes in any uncapped cash game in town.

**** him and his ilk.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:23 PM   #404
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Actually the junior G-men proving that Stacy and Jack conspired to make a key to the wardroom to get at the strawberries is a very small tangent to this thread.

Some people are really mad their d-bag hero was penalized after numerous warnings. They also think that he's the best thing for the wsop since hevad khan.

Others just point out that he is a d-bag that deserved the penalty and are rather tired that a small fanboy contingent seems almost every year to bandwagon a clown who would get tossed out of any respectable game.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:51 PM   #405
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Actually the junior G-men proving that Stacy and Jack conspired to make a key to the wardroom to get at the strawberries is a very small tangent to this thread.
They have a working relationship so therefore him making a ruling on a hand that she is involved in is a conflict of interest. Has nothing to do with if there actually was a conspiracy or not.

You can't say with 100% certainty that there was not a biased ruling, I can say with 100% certainty that there was a chance it was biased due to their working relationship. At this point it has nothing to do with Kassouf.

Don't forget about her completely denying the situation which just makes you wonder, you know considering that Ceasars owns the domain.


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It is very important to us at the World Series of Poker to employ the most talented and qualified individuals to work our events, said Effel. "Working with the WSOP dealer academy allows us to properly identify, train and teach dealers all the varied games offered at the WSOP and ensure our high standards are met.
Jack Effel, VP and Tournament Director, World Series of Poker

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Old 10-09-2016, 01:41 PM   #406
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Talking in poker is a two way street , if you couldn't see his talk tell patterns what more can I say? That 9 high boss hand that was a standard call with his ace I felt there is no way it goes check turn if he held a queen, sure we see the cards and its easy to be a tv quarterback but geez now he shuts up and makes a fishy bet, I thought a call was very standard. The QQ fold was a pressure fold it happens next case. Poker needs drama, made phil helmuth a fortune.....Its poker not kinder garden....
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Old 10-09-2016, 02:01 PM   #407
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Wasting time is a bad thing, but that would be solved with a shot clock. What's wrong with 20-30 seconds to act and each player gets 3x 1 minute extensions which are replenished at the start of each day of play?
What's wrong with this is d-bags like kassouf will then use the 20-30 seconds to talk **** at the table before folding 72o from EP, all the while claiming they are playing to exactly the spirit of the rules. If every person at the table had a 30 second shot clock for every action and used it, just folding around preflop to the button would take three minutes. I don't think the shot clock idea works in any practical sense to stop people from this kind of behavior.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:32 PM   #408
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Cliffs:

OP says Kassouf is a boss while J. Eifel is an idiot.

Stacey Matosun (alleged) shows up in thread defending her play, saying what a POS Kassouf was

Someone brings up the fact that Stacey and Jack have a close working relationship according to her dealer academy webpage and that it's a conflict of interest.

Stacey says that is the dumbest post she has ever seen or something like that and claims there is no relationship between her dealer academy and Jack/WSOP.

Someone does a Whois search that shows Ceasars owns her website domain.

Jack's picture is also posted on her website right below her picture.

She repeatedly deflects saying what a bunch of idiots we are all while never really addressing the conflict of interests.

It becomes quite clear she is probably not right in the head or doesn't understand what a conflict of interest is.

A bunch of other BS gets posted

Here we are


Pretty sure that is the thread in a nutshell but I may have missed or gotten a few things wrong.
Worst. Cliffs. Ever.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:35 PM   #409
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Worst. Cliffs. Ever.
I think you missed the second set:

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Actually the junior G-men proving that Stacy and Jack conspired to make a key to the wardroom to get at the strawberries is a very small tangent to this thread.

Some people are really mad their d-bag hero was penalized after numerous warnings. They also think that he's the best thing for the wsop since hevad khan.

Others just point out that he is a d-bag that deserved the penalty and are rather tired that a small fanboy contingent seems almost every year to bandwagon a clown who would get tossed out of any respectable game.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:05 PM   #410
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I think you missed the second set:
Yes, that helps a bit. It's also worth mentioning that the adults in the thread have patiently explained how the rules were violated, and why the penalty was completely appropriate.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:44 PM   #411
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Actually, I meant that those Cliffs were even worse.

Combining the two and removing a few things would probably make for something relatively accurate.
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Old 10-09-2016, 07:25 PM   #412
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Actually, I meant that those Cliffs were even worse.

Combining the two and removing a few things would probably make for something relatively accurate.
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:04 AM   #413
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Kassouf is a disgustingly obnoxious selfish egomaniac idiotic punk ****face whose continued existence is an affront to poker. That's a fact.
that's why i will remember him longer than the new world champion's name
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:36 AM   #414
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that's why i will remember him longer than the new world champion's name
this + 1000000000x


i play poker everyday and if you asked me who won the WSOP ME last year i couldnt tell you, id have to be reminded their name

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Old 10-10-2016, 08:20 AM   #415
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Yes, that helps a bit. It's also worth mentioning that the adults in the thread have patiently explained how the rules were violated, and why the penalty was completely appropriate.
One thing I left out is that Kassouf and his fanboys employ the now tiresome tactic of every idiot who's ever been penalized or bounced from a casino: creating conspiracy theories and the old "he's on a power trip" accusation without once ever reflecting on the reason they were penalized. Add to that the fact that the idiot could have avoided the penalty by shutting his cakehole and actually listening to the repeated (what was it, six times?) warnings to dial it down and act like an adult instead of a petulant 10 year-old.

I thought he deserved a double round penalty after continuing to whine even after being told to just shut up and chill. It's like he thinks he's the center of the universe and the official is there just for him and is not responsible for everything else going on.

So glad this tool got bounced after taking 10 min to call pre-flop w KK.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:53 AM   #416
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Whoops, meant shove.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:55 AM   #417
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that's why i will remember him longer than the new world champion's name
and your point is...? I remember The Ice Man killed over 200ppl and his name was Richard Kuklinski because i saw a docu about him many years ago I and cant remember last nobel price winner despite reading about him few weeks ago. not really sure what you are trying to say. bad rep is better than no rep?

I am a poker player, i dont wanna be remembered, I want to win money. if you think being remembered is important, you probably chose wrong hobby/proffession.moreover, being remember for being abnoxious c..nt is not a good thing. Jamie Gold is remembered...
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:03 AM   #418
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creating conspiracy theories and the old "he's on a power trip"
ppl defending kassouf because they dont like effel are just biased. effel did nothing wrong here, I would have been much tougher on kassouf if he ignored my warnings and got in my face like he did with effel. he warned him like 5 times! i would give him penalty as soon as he made his ***** gestures at matuson and then anoher round for not stfu. ppl accusing effel of power trip are tripping themselves....
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:14 PM   #419
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i am very curious why kassouf himself doesn't join this conversation to clarify the straight flush thing ... i doubt a boss like him does not read this forum
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:24 PM   #420
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i am very curious why kassouf himself doesn't join this conversation to clarify the straight flush thing ... i doubt a boss like him does not read this forum
its because he aint no boss. he is a ****talking lawyer. at least he is smart enough to know he would get mowed down. not much he could say in his defence other than 'marvelous'. the guy is socially inept
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:33 PM   #421
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i am very curious why kassouf himself doesn't join this conversation to clarify the straight flush thing ... i doubt a boss like him does not read this forum
You did see what happened to Stacey right? Nobody in their right mind would ever voluntarily defend himself in NVG.
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:59 PM   #422
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You did see what happened to Stacey right? Nobody in their right mind would ever voluntarily defend himself in NVG by starting off with ridicule and a blatant falsehood, compounded by repeated attempts at obfuscation and denial, and reliance upon "Wow" as a rhetorical device.
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Hubris, arrogance and a denial based upon misrepresentation is never a +EV strategy, especially when the misrepresentation can be readily exposed.
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:00 PM   #423
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You did see what happened to Stacey right? Nobody in their right mind would ever voluntarily defend himself in NVG.
Maybe if she didn't use her very first words on 2p2 to talk smack and spout various untruths she would have done better
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:01 PM   #424
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i was thinking more of defending her if he indeed showed/told some dude (or kept his cards high enough people in the back could see ... there were people in the back, you can see that on the coverage) that he had the absolute "coconuts". he totally owned her in that spot so why not tell it like it was right now and gain some extra fanboys by being a gentleman.

as for him, i don't really think he has anything to defend. he got the penalty, he owned her, he's a big star on NVG, haters gonna hate anyways ... life is great
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Old 10-10-2016, 06:02 PM   #425
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She was tanking to wait for info

The random whisperer she mentions is intended to deceive or misguide in some way

She and others have had info relayed through out the event and the series

Jack has had this brought to his attention before this hand

Jack is aware of many issues regarding the dealers which completely compromises the integrity of the series

People still hold video footage that would expose all

There are some very very talented dealers in the last few series

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