Another interesting question is who told you he had shown the straight flush to the cameras?

That is information that you should not have had as he did not show his cards to the table or you so who was it that told you?

Was it anyone connected in anyway to the production company or the WSOP? Did you have people round looking at other people's hole cards and feeding you information? Was it just a random person who felt sorry for you? Was it one of your friends?

You should not have had that information and as you openly admit it influenced your decision in the QQ hand so how you came by it is of interest.

I suppose you could always say you just made it up to avoid having to answer.
I think you need to get your lies straight before posting.
This is NVG - we make the NSA look like amateurs

That was a great question. Nah it wasn't production or floor, a) floor wasnt there for that hand nor do they care and b) camera crew wants it to be a surprise for the tv episodes- few people onlookers had snuck inside the ropes at times to watch the action up close and when the camera crews surrounded the table people came in unnoticed at times. Some random guy after the hand was over was standing behind William when he showed the cameras and either said it to a friend or something , then someone whispered it to me. I was like wow. You're right I wish I hadn't heard, did influence my decision a bit.

I feel sorry for you. You're super bitter , cheer up mate. Nothing in the Main Event had anything to do with you and it's just plain out weird seeing how much hate you have for a stranger and some tv clips on their experience.

I like this post too.

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...11&page=0&vc=1

Stacey,

Forgetting what happened on TV, do you realize how poorly you represent yourself in this thread?

Your working relationship with Jack was brought up and you said the post was the most absurd post ever but Ceasars owns the site and Jack's face is plastered on the site right below yours. Obviously we don't know if that played a roll in the decision but for you to respond the way you did makes it look bad either way.

Someone then asks how you knew the hand and you make an elaborate story about some guy sneaking in the roped off area and looking at Kassoufs cards. I don't know if that happened or not but considering you have lied repeatedly in this thread, why should we believe you about that? Not that you owe NVG an explanation but for someone that was "done with this" you seem to be heavily involved.

At this point you probably should be done with this thread as you don't know how to represent yourself but I'm highly entertained so I hope you aren't done.

You're hilarious. I don't think I represented myself poorly at all, actually tried to have -*decent forthright and truthful conversations to answer most of your questions. I obviously wasted my time thinking we could and that you were actually interested in hearing from "someone who was actually there". You ask a question and don't like the answer when it's the truth it's beyond weird ? No worries, g'day.

If you could play poker as good as you deflect.......

truthful conversations...

Whois says differently though.

But hey, you know the difference between your and you're so at least you got that going for you.

Gotta fold those queens

The first law of holes, or the law of holes, is an adage which states that "if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".

I'm quite cheery thanks - now would you care to address the issues raised or do you prefer to just keep digging yourself deeper?
Al those who enter NVG do so at their own peril.

As to your exit hand - that was an easy fold on the flop - especially for your tournament life.

I'm literally dying of laughter
WE WERE ALL IN PREFLOP ... lol
Seems as though you dug yourself nicely into " I have no clue what I'm talking about" so no one should pay any attention to you, including me

Congratulations Stacey - you've just been NVGed.
Stick around - we'll love you.

Now tell us about this imaginary card whisperer.

Seems kind of amateurish to put all your chips in the pot when you haven't even seen what the flop was. It's optimal to wait for the river to see who has the best hand and then make your decision.

Stacy dont take NVG too seriously.

Lolol

Actually, it seems like you mostly reply to the posts that you have easy answers for, and skip over the rest, but perhaps I'm mistaken.

I've got a couple questions for you:

Do you know if there are any tournament rules that address conflict of interest, and if not, do you feel there should be any?

Keep in mind that rules around conflict of interest protect those in conflict as much as anyone. Using the case at hand as an example, it could well be that another floor person would've made the same or a very similar ruling, and then there wouldn't be questions about improprieties that may well be unfounded, but impossible for you to disprove. In other words, you can tell people that Jack's ruling was unbiased until you are blue in the face, but unfortunately there is no way for either of you to conclusively prove that; if someone else makes the ruling, this is never a problem in the first place. This particular case is not a big deal IMO, but if there are no rules governing this sort of thing, it's just asking for a much bigger problem in the future.

Inb4 a metaphorical white knight literally calls for an ambulance.

rip Stacy.

A+

I thought the guy was borderline out of line, but anyone who annoys/pisses off selbst, I'm a fan of.

Originally Posted by StacyAcey View Post

This is the most ridiculous post. You might want to inform yourself that our school does not work for Caesars.

Okay, I looked a bit further to "inform" myself.

1. I think Stacy has done a remarkable business development effort, bringing the Mizrachi Dealer Academy online. That seems a great business move by a real entrepenuer. There is an extensive, complimentary piece on her work online. See, http://www.hdfmagazine.com/stacy-mat...-entrepreneur/.

Like many entrepenuers, including one running for POTUS, Stacy reportedly tends "to create her own reality". This is a useful trait, when it means someone works hard to build an create a new venture in an nderserved market. However, it does not go over so well when fueled by unswerving denial of demonstrable facts.

I happen to think both the ruling and Stacy's fold were reasonable; however, that is not what creates or denies a perception of a conflict of interest.

2. Why Stacy would insist her disruptive, apparently successful company does not work for the WSOP is odd. Her insistence that a post premised on a belief it does is "ridiculous" seems arrogant.

3. Then there is this, from an admirer:

"What I like about Stacy, other than her insane enthusiasm to go after her dreams and create her own reality, is that she proves a very viable point"

4. Stacy perhaps thinks deception and denial hold equal value within and outside of poker;

"Stacy: You’re exactly right. Poker and life are synonymous in many ways.
I have found that understanding the aspects of poker and playing it for more than half my life has enabled me to understand life as well – in the aspect that it comes down to key decision making, people reading skills and understanding human nature, both in the conscious and subconscious.
“That it doesn’t matter what your circumstances are, it’s the force, drive and tenacity within us that will determine our results in business, life or poker.”
You have to want to want it, be present and allow yourself to flow in order to problem solve and create positive outcomes.
To be an entrepreneur through all the struggles it will take to get successful you have to be a different animal just like in poker. You can’t give up or see failure as the time to quit. It’s then where you see what you’re made of.

HDF: So much truth to what you’re saying!

Stacy: Also, you have to learn from past errors, surround yourself with people who inspire you to be the best version of yourself and humble yourself to learn from the greats who have gotten to levels you seek"

http://www.hdfmagazine.com/stacy-mat...-entrepreneur/

5. That determination and drive lead her to what seems great success and a bright business future, reaching a written agreement with the WSOP to become its Official training school. What is odd is her knee-jerk denial itt of her accomplishment, perhaps because she thought her bluff would never get to showdown.

The interview specifically addressed the pivot of the Mizrachi Academy into the WSOP's Official Training School and an undeniable perception that her WSOP-branded venture arose from a specific agreement with Caesars:

"HDF: And I’m sure WSOP was excited by what you had come up with?

Stacy: Yeah, the WSOP agreed to meet with us and through those meetings, they got excited with the idea as well.

That was a shining moment for me in my life. We signed and we became the Official school for the WSOP – The longest, most successful and well respected organization in our field."


So, you signed an agreement with the WSOP to become the Official School for them, and they gave you use of their trademark, provide for a branded doman name they own, allow you to feature your WSOP Team, including the WSOP's own Jack Effel, but your reality can not understand why there might be some perceived conflict when a member of your own WSOP Team has to rule on a situation you are involved in.

Try and "learn from past errors"; a progression of ridicule, deny, deny, deny, ridicule, deny some more, does not constitute representing yourself well in this thread.

The longer this drags out,the more cans of worms may get opened, like the latest convoluted tale of how you knew what "the camera saw" in real time, prior to your eventual QQ fold. (Really ? You made a major decision drawing on what some unknown guy illegally saw and whispered to another, unnamed guy, who whispered to you.... or was there some more reliable basis for the information ? Gaming cares pretty deeply about access to live game information in broadcast situations. Why raise ANY question.)

Fold, You understand that poker and life are synonymous in many ways; most relevantly, you do not have to play every hand to showdown.

Get on with your promising business venture before your compulsion to post further hurts your bright prospects in real life.

As long as it's heads up speech play is fine. I think ruling was overly harsh. I rewatched the clip and it looked like dealer was telling will to be quiet or something which is way out of line.

If this means that you can say anything you want in a hu pot, you are incorrect.

Still going WTF at the weird lies or half truths or whatever that Stacy posts regarding the relationships of the two companies. I can't imagine owning the dealer academy and at the same time not even acknowledging there could be a potential conflict of interest. It's the half-truths that make it interesting really...

Without sounding overly dramatic, as a concerned player who has spent a lot of rake at the WSOP, the next step is probably to get the NVGC's take on it

First of all thank you! For posting an entrepreneurial article and publicizing something I'm proud of. Lol
People in the business know I work so hard, and was noticed by some
amazing media, they wanted to tell my life story and where I am in now in my life .
Here's the facts since I'm the one that knows them :
1) we have had a dealer school formerly known as the Mizrachi Dealer Academy opened in January 2012, by myself Michael and Robert Mizrachi.
We wanted to upscale dealing training from the dinosaur years and improve the quality of dealers worldwide.
Many wanted to attend because they are huge fans of Mike and Rob's and couldn't because we are located in Florida.
Rob and I came up with the idea of creating an online certified program so they could. Took us couple of years of development and a lot of work. Tons.
What you fail to understand ( I guess you just like arguing with no point for the sport of it) is that
We
Figured the Wsop could use our program to encourage more people to try poker dealing as a career ( it pays well and for people who love poker it can be a fun job, even improve your game. We all started off as poker dealers, Mike, Rob, myself and many other players.

We created *one of our few programs for dealers anywhere who wanted to deal for the Wsop could learn the other 16 poker games and Wsop specific procedures.
The Wsop agreed as they are interested in increasing their dealer applications each year.
We own our school, the Wsop allowed us to use their trademark. That's it. It was a huge deal for us because we believe in the Wsop.

Jack making a decision for a penalty towards William was because
> fact William was warned repeatedly he was breaking rules of the "content of his banter " and not when he is closing the action. It's in their rule books upon entering. Read em
And still when warned he ignored the floor , next step was penalty.

If you watched tonight's episode Norman Chad repeatedly even said I still don't think it's right to talk non stop when you're opponent has a decision to make. Make your debate on the issue and quit obsessing over me lol.

His penalty didn't affect me or help me in any way. That had to do with William and it would have happened against any player. As it does again on day 7 which will be aired.

I don't care if you believe the facts.
I just feel sorry for you that have no life and have spent your Sunday researching my entrepreneurial article. lol.

I finished 169th out of 6770 players. This hand doesn't overshadow it for me.
Have you ever gone that deep?

I've also final tabled wpt in 2005, if you want to do more research?
I made a mistake folding queens.
Get over it, I am .
Thanks !!

Ps ..one of the November 9 Hallart is a tournament director! Not for Wsop but Same field as well. Who cares!
Go on with your life bro.

Lol, its becoming more difficult to show restraint here.


I see by now that you are completely incapable of ignoring irrelevant details like the decision itself and who agrees with it. Is it possible that you make one post without going on and on about how the decision was correct?

The information of how the academy was started in the above post is not very relevant either. Well, except for the part where you talk about where you became affiliated with the WSOP, which is actually the crux of the issue.

I guess your final paragraph, bringing up Hallaert, a tournament director for a completely different establishment, really clues me in to how ignorant you are to the issues at hand. It's not about his job, it's about affiliation with Caesars / WSOP.

Engaging you further in this thread seems like a fair waste of time, especially when you try to swing your poker accomplishments around like they mean squat in this context. No one who is paying attention cares how deep you went, or how many final tables you have, or even whether the fold was correct. They care about an apparent conflict of interest. Hopefully the NVGB is a bit more cognizant of the issues at hand.

Oh, well since Norman Chad said so...