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08-08-2017 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
OP forgot to mention that he's a student of mixgrill/MMASHERDOG, that has recently been banned for using artificial AI on pokerstars.

*plot thickens*


They both live in Malta, which is where the developer for real time snowie rents his "bot"
dayum i need milk after this!
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08-08-2017 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
OP forgot to mention that he's a student of mixgrill/MMASHERDOG, that has recently been banned for using artificial AI on pokerstars.

*plot thickens*


They both live in Malta, which is where the developer for real time snowie rents his "bot"
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08-09-2017 , 12:26 AM
Hundreds of threads on 2p2 about bots and AI users

Stars 888 and popular sites don't care!!!

888 runs mans ban against bots and AI

888 is shady and disgusting!!!!

Lol...ummm...
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08-09-2017 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
OP forgot to mention that he's a student of mixgrill/MMASHERDOG, that has recently been banned for using artificial AI on pokerstars.

*plot thickens*


They both live in Malta, which is where the developer for real time snowie rents his "bot"
And why did the other accounts get banned?

I think we have to quit Poker, with your logic a dozen of lowstakes players already have "realtime GTO software", that means noone without this "realtime GTO software" can be winning at even lowstakes.

Or the 2nd option is, tht just some guys have a "realtime GTO Software", but why are they playing lowstakes and not reggames at highstakes against OTB etc.?


Or the last option, you are full of Bull**** and are telling lies because you are jealous or something like that.
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08-09-2017 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
They both live in Malta, which is where the developer for real time snowie rents his "bot"
You throw a lot claims out in the world and i'm not sure if you actually can back them up. As long as you can't come forward with proof, i'd recommend you add to your posts things like "I have the suspicion....", "Could be, that....", etc.
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08-09-2017 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
You throw a lot claims out in the world and i'm not sure if you actually can back them up. As long as you can't come forward with proof, i'd recommend you add to your posts things like "I have the suspicion....", "Could be, that....", etc.
One of the guys that peddles the software for "affiliate" money, used to ask around for staking and had a journal on 2p2.
I have not had contact with the maker but the busto that peddled it gave me all the info i needed.
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08-09-2017 , 08:42 AM
Please stop listening to this scam artist. I don't know what he has against me, but he is making random stuff up.
I have not been banned, I have been investigated.

First you accuse me of AI software and now I am a bot. And you claim I had AI software 3 years ago, before anyone even knew PIO solver etc.

At least put in some more effort when trying to slander people.
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08-09-2017 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
Please stop listening to this scam artist. I don't know what he has against me, but he is making random stuff up.
I have not been banned, I have been investigated.

First you accuse me of AI software and now I am a bot. And you claim I had AI software 3 years ago, before anyone even knew PIO solver etc.

At least put in some more effort when trying to slander people.
i thought he got you banned on stars? didnt you message him and say **** you for that ?
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08-09-2017 , 09:07 AM
Just logged into 888 and discovered I'm not banned!

along with the hundreds of other Russian, Ukrainian and Belarussian players sat with 40bb
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08-09-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Philly_28
i thought he got you banned on stars? didnt you message him and say **** you for that ?
No, they had me make a video of me playing and they are reviewing it.
This has been done to many players, it was because of a screenshot where I had a glitch.

I have not been banned, and I would be very surprised if I would be, given that I have done absolutely nothing wrong. Please don't listen to the trolls.
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08-09-2017 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by IHaveThreePair
Just logged into 888 and discovered I'm not banned!

along with the hundreds of other Russian, Ukrainian and Belarussian players sat with 40bb
unreal
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08-09-2017 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
No, they had me make a video of me playing and they are reviewing it.
This has been done to many players, it was because of a screenshot where I had a glitch.

I have not been banned, and I would be very surprised if I would be, given that I have done absolutely nothing wrong. Please don't listen to the trolls.
Explain your glitch to the world pls. Glitch of what?
They had you make a vid of playing. Lol yea Im sure they catch you this way, is stars serious? Obv you turn off certain software while making the video... Wtf is that?
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08-09-2017 , 09:34 AM
Kind of hard for someone who isn't a software developer to explain a glitch.

you guys are fkn unreal, Salmahighjack already nailed most of the points for my response to botsonparty (jesusquads)... ppl on the internet love drama so his posts will continue to attract attention, but at the end of the day he is just spouting whatever comes to his mind, you can say whatever you want about someone and it's pretty much impossible for them to 100% prove you wrong.. it's hard to prove i DIDN'T do something bc wtf would be the proof? The proof that this wasn't an isolated incident to me is throughout this thread and threads on other forums

Last edited by SenpaiSwift; 08-09-2017 at 09:43 AM.
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08-09-2017 , 09:43 AM
Wow bro as soon as your buddy posts you come online here? What software caused the glitch then? We know it aint PT4,HM2,SH or TN2. We also know your buddy played up to 5/10 on party reg tables. It wouldnt be crazy to assume that he was using that $100-150/month converter everybody is talking about.
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08-09-2017 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
As for "any ecconomic reasons", I guess you don't spend a lot of time on 2+2, or you'd know there have been, and currently are, hundreds of threads that are critical of many, many poker sites that advertise on 2+2.
Wow, I didn't even notice that you guys have advertising. Do you make any money from it, or is it just for laughs? Can't imagine there is any upside to advertising on this site.

So far as 888 and their behavior: if a site took my money and I wasn't cheating, I'd report them to every public authority that could possibly be interested in putting them out of business and take note of every shady financial transaction they used to get my money on their site. I'd call my Congressperson and any religious nutjobs and try to have their sorry selves shut down.
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08-09-2017 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Wow bro as soon as your buddy posts you come online here? What software caused the glitch then? We know it aint PT4,HM2,SH or TN2. We also know your buddy played up to 5/10 on party reg tables. It wouldnt be crazy to assume that he was using that $100-150/month converter everybody is talking about.
I just woke up, one of my new daily habits is checking this thread/my email to see if 888 will admit they owe me money.

i have no idea what kind of glitch it was, i'm pretty sure i've seen it on my own computer at some point and i've never played on party or had to use a converter w/e.... i can't say for sure what it is/isn't bc i dont know, and unlike other ppl in this thread, when i dont know something i dont claim to.

Last edited by SenpaiSwift; 08-09-2017 at 10:09 AM.
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08-09-2017 , 09:52 AM
Senpai, is it true that you use wallhack?
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08-09-2017 , 10:01 AM
I got the same thing in May. Obviously I have never used any software except Pokertracker, don't use VPN or anything so no idea how they could suspect I was using AI. Anyway, I sent them several mails, even one including a coaching video I made for pokervip where you can visibly see my screen-name as I'm playing and explaining my thought process along the way. 888 didn't give a ****, they didn't even respond to my emails. This went on for over a week.

Fortunally I'm good friends with Patrick Leonard, who tweeted their official twitter account, and 2 hours later I got an email saying my account was unlocked again. Without contacts i'm 100% sure they would have never responded to emails and never opened my account again. It's nothing short of disgraceful bordering on criminal behaviour from one of the worlds largest poker sites.

Edit: I play cashgames midstakes for whatever that's worth. Still no idea how they could even suspect me, I play the most un-botty style, no long sessions, no scheduele, no affiliation, no software outside pokertracker, etc. Must have been an unnatural high winrate

Last edited by imfromsweden; 08-09-2017 at 10:22 AM.
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08-09-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
OP forgot to mention that he's a student of mixgrill/MMASHERDOG, that has recently been banned for using artificial AI on pokerstars.

*plot thickens*


They both live in Malta, which is where the developer for real time snowie rents his "bot"
Regardless of whether this accusation is true or not, I reached out to a couple of sites asking questions. I was told by one of them that the links on these people's websites aren't even live anymore... meaning they've been kicked out as affiliates for some reason or another... what that was, I couldn't say, even if I knew (and I don't).

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Kahn
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08-09-2017 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
I got the same thing in May. Obviously I have never used any software except Pokertracker, don't use VPN or anything so no idea how they could suspect I was using AI. Anyway, I sent them several mails, even one including a coaching video I made for pokervip where you can visibly see my screen-name as I'm playing and explaining my thought process along the way. 888 didn't give a ****, they didn't even respond to my emails. This went on for over a week.

Fortunally I'm good friends with Patrick Leonard, who tweeted their official twitter account, and 2 hours later I got an email saying my account was unlocked again. Without contacts i'm 100% sure they would have never responded to emails and never opened my account again. It's nothing short of disgraceful bordering on criminal behaviour from one of the worlds largest poker sites.

Edit: I play cashgames midstakes for whatever that's worth. Still no idea how they could even suspect me, I play the most un-botty style, no long sessions, no scheduele, no affiliation, no software outside pokertracker, etc. Must have been an unnatural high winrate
Wow, that is crazy. They have also completely stopped responding to my emails as well. Don't know how they are getting away with this.
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08-09-2017 , 10:42 AM
Anyone have any clarification of the 'law' regarding sites seizing funds?

When they have 'suspicion' of botting what does that need to be?
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08-09-2017 , 10:59 AM
Valerija, Dean, Marko, Nikica, Milena... these are all common names in ex-yugoslavia (Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia), I live there so I should know. interesting that (almost?) all people banned are from there...
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08-09-2017 , 01:30 PM
Aye you're right there pal Dean's a communist as **** name.

Jesus wept.
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08-09-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Aye you're right there pal Dean's a communist as **** name.

Jesus wept.
Dejan is for true communists, Dean for communists trying to become democrats.
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