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02-05-2018 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
This part had me cracking up!
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prove you arent, and ive alreadt got local LOE watching this thread so go ahead and delete it it mods. for the record though i have filed suit against 2+2, sklansky's for 5milly + welcome to the new age



Wow this guy must be straight out of the looney bin...
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go ahead and ban me, ill call the LEO and FBI and we can go from there, im not bluffing and i have nothing to lose.look at my account history here, believe me now? look me up on pocket 5s (bwalz loony bin) wanna keep debating with me, not a good idea son...
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02-05-2018 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
haha whats oic mean? thanks for sharing a link of the past for me and proof my my unsatisfactory and pained mental state at the time! I couldn't have found it on my own lmfao!

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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
This part had me cracking up!
ya that was sad but funny lookin back. I dont mean to hijack now i was trying to contribute lol but i guess anything coming from me is auto discredited, understandably so.
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02-05-2018 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
The lawyer is regarding the video that Joey did accusing me, anyway im up to escrow 100k as long as Joey gives me 5:1 odds, his 500k to my 100k, since he is so sure I do any shady stuff, and Im available to go to vegas and have him and any judges we determine watch me mass table as I do on a daily basis, we can setup any amount of hands you think its fair.
This will be my last post untill any investigation is done and Ive been apologized by Joey regarding these accusations which are totally false.

If someone told me that I would ever be having this type of back & forth in my life I wouldn't have believed it.

I will make you a deal because I love prop bets --

I will book a flight for you and your friends and "friends" to Vegas who were banned from PS and now play on ACR. You prove your innocence on both platforms to the judges.

You give me 10-1

Your $1mm to my $100k and we can escrow ASAP. I can have my lawyer write up something official for this and your lawyers can go over it. Mine will be present and you are free to bring yours with.

If you and your friends are found to have done nothing wrong on both sites, you win.

I am available in Vegas 24/7 to make this happen whenever you are ready.
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02-05-2018 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
This part had me cracking up!

This guy must be straight out of the looney bin...
ya actually thats true also, 72 hr 5150 hold but they let me out, I passed. Verdict was I should drink less basically.
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02-05-2018 , 07:35 PM
Joey the lawyer has to come too though for the bet to stand.
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02-05-2018 , 07:37 PM
Go Joey go, please be the peoples champion and anything i can do to help lemme know. Ive known this is going on and felt the same for years and not had the platform, following or mental stability to pull it off but I know you're right on and props to you for taking this stand I thank you heaps.

Even if you're not right what's to lose, proving the sites aren't shady then we get back to honest crushing? I know that's silly but..
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02-05-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
haha whats oic mean? thanks for sharing a link of the past for me and proof my my unsatisfactory and pained mental state at the time! I couldn't have found it on my own lmfao!
Oh, I see - which was basically in response to you saying you "just got sluffed off". Unfortunately, if you had legitimate concerns, you were struggling to express them in a coherent way, so it really wasn't a case of you being sluffed off. Not trying to pick on you, but I thought there should be some context given to your claim. Hopefully things are better for you now.
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02-05-2018 , 07:40 PM
He said was banned for letting his friend play on his account

It was Brian Hastings wasn’t it? He probably played when you won all those tournies since u say u just a rec that got lucky lol ok
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02-05-2018 , 07:42 PM
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02-05-2018 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Oh, I see - which was basically in response to you saying you "just got sluffed off". Unfortunately, if you had legitimate concerns, you were struggling to express them in a coherent way, so it really wasn't a case of you being sluffed off. Not trying to pick on you, but I thought there should be some context given to your claim. Hopefully things are better for you now.
yes i can agree with that, there was no expression of anything anywhere near coherently at the time, I apologize for that. My concerns at the time still remain and they're being discussed now and brought up by others so i was reminded of the past. I agree I wsn't "sluffed off" I was unable to communicate effectively at the time as much as i tried and thought I was lol.
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02-05-2018 , 07:47 PM
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02-05-2018 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
The 44bars account is the one that I think something ****ed up is taking place for sure. The possible superusing account, I will go to my death thinking something 100% is taking place here.
This is just such random bs, just saying random stuff to the point of even accusing me of being a super user since you have no valid arguments. At least 2 or 3 high stakes regulars that play up to 40k that I have no connection posted here saying everything seems standard about me, but you only seem to care about what random busto portuguese people have msged u or so x) Not sure why I am still posting neither if you have clue of the image you're portraying, we never logged hands in the same table (iirc) and you said you have lots of footage recorded of these nicks doing shady stuff, the nicks I have no connection with.
Also my friends arent related to this Im just standing up for myself, you know I dont have access to a million obv but I could see putting 500k to your million, I wouldnt do it for less than that, you have connections and prob could get people to buy action and we could sweat this, would be fun man anyway Ill be waiting for a public apologize as you promised. Take care
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02-05-2018 , 08:00 PM
I'm not even sure what to think here, 44bars was far down on my initial list of worrying about. It was sleepyberry, possible potrippers, bots, Create/Green...........44bars. Now it's 44bars........................sleepyberry because of how strange this is. This type of stuff has been ongoing since the beginning of time in online cash/tournaments; it's something I don't put much worry in because it will drive you nuts. Seeing it happening at the highest stake PLO table is something I can understand 1000% more than anything happening in NL or MTT world. I think I have a better understanding of the PLO cash game ecosystem than just about anyone else.

His brother (apparently by brother he meant good friend) messaged me on IG talking about how he can assure me his brother is a legit hard work player who came from scratch and provided for his whole family here in Portugal with ONLY HIS SWEAT from 1/2cent back when he was 16yo to now. I asked about being banned, seems out of line with some of that statement but I can understand doing what you think you have to do to support the family.

44bars says he is a bumhunter & scripter but what can he do. He sent me an initial message about 15 mins before Create did. He asked me why I would speculate that he is a bot or superuser during initial messaging. I never said he was a bot or superuser. CreateMyOwnEnergy messaged and said that he heard from a friend that I called him a bot or super user and was I serious. Then said he was backed by one of the biggest backers and a member of team primed mind. I thought I misread it at first because why would they both say I called them a bot/superuser when I clearly didn't. I also messaged Fedor, and he said that this person is a customer, not a team member. I don't know what exactly this guy was trying to imply.

The strat of defense has been quite the opposite. Create engaged in a conversation with me back and forth for a bit saying it was crazy/not true/etc. The initial person who messaged me with the information said Create was trying to call him, but he wasn't answering. We haven't been in communication since and he hasn't tweeted or replied to anyone asking about what was happening before privating his profile. 44bars is out here swinging for the fences talking about lawyers, losing respect, how this type of discussion is the most ridiculously random thing possible and offering to put up six figures.

It's all so ****ing weird.

Last edited by ChicagoJoey; 02-05-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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02-05-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
This is just such random bs, just saying random stuff to the point of even accusing me of being a super user since you have no valid arguments. At least 2 or 3 high stakes regulars that play up to 40k that I have no connection posted here saying everything seems standard about me, but you only seem to care about what random busto portuguese people have msged u or so x) Not sure why I am still posting neither if you have clue of the image you're portraying, we never logged hands in the same table (iirc) and you said you have lots of footage recorded of these nicks doing shady stuff, the nicks I have no connection with.
Also my friends arent related to this Im just standing up for myself, you know I dont have access to a million obv but I could see putting 500k to your million, I wouldnt do it for less than that, you have connections and prob could get people to buy action and we could sweat this, would be fun man anyway Ill be waiting for a public apologize as you promised. Take care
You might need to fully understand what I talked about in the video and my posts first. Those two sentences were not connected together.
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02-05-2018 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
You might need to fully understand what I talked about in the video and my posts first. Those two sentences were not connected together.
just learn to lose.
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02-05-2018 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by red_Eyes_Bot
just learn to lose.
or this -
honestly Joey the 1st 2 hands did seem rigtardish, but i know that''s not the case but thats the way they came across to me in the video. I was glad to see that that wasnt the theme of the whole thing and as ive said i agree with all of it and support you.
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02-05-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I'm not even sure what to think here, 44bars was far down on my initial list of worrying about. It was sleepyberry, possible potrippers, bots, Create/Green...........44bars. Now it's 44bars........................sleepyberry because of how strange this is. This type of stuff has been ongoing since the beginning of time in online cash/tournaments; it's something I don't put much worry in because it will drive you nuts. Seeing it happening at the highest stake PLO table is something I can understand 1000% more than anything happening in NL or MTT world. I think I have a better understanding of the PLO cash game ecosystem than just about anyone else.

His brother (apparently by brother he meant good friend) messaged me on IG talking about how he can assure me his brother is a legit hard work player who came from scratch and provided for his whole family here in Portugal with ONLY HIS SWEAT from 1/2cent back when he was 16yo to now. I asked about being banned, seems out of line with some of that statement but I can understand doing what you think you have to do to support the family.

44bars says he is a bumhunter & scripter but what can he do. He sent me an initial message about 15 mins before Create did. He asked me why I would speculate that he is a bot or superuser during initial messaging. I never said he was a bot or superuser. CreateMyOwnEnergy messaged and said that he heard from a friend that I called him a bot or super user and was I serious. Then said he was backed by one of the biggest backers and a member of team primed mind. I thought I misread it at first because why would they both say I called them a bot/superuser when I clearly didn't. I also messaged Fedor, and he said that this person is a customer, not a team member. I don't know what exactly this guy was trying to imply.

The strat of defense has been quite the opposite. Create engaged in a conversation with me back and forth for a bit saying it was crazy/not true/etc. The initial person who messaged me with the information said Create was trying to call him, but he wasn't answering. We haven't been in communication since and he hasn't tweeted or replied to anyone asking about what was happening before privating his profile. 44bars is out here swinging for the fences talking about lawyers, losing respect, how this type of discussion is the most ridiculously random thing possible and offering to put up six figures.

It's all so ****ing weird.
I really think Joey is wrong on this one..
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02-05-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I'm not even sure what to think here, 44bars was far down on my initial list of worrying about. It was sleepyberry, possible potrippers, bots, Create/Green...........44bars. Now it's 44bars........................sleepyberry because of how strange this is. This type of stuff has been ongoing since the beginning of time in online cash/tournaments; it's something I don't put much worry in because it will drive you nuts. Seeing it happening at the highest stake PLO table is something I can understand 1000% more than anything happening in NL or MTT world. I think I have a better understanding of the PLO cash game ecosystem than just about anyone else.

His brother messaged me on IG talking about how he can assure me his brother is a legit hard work player who came from scratch and provided for his whole family here in Portugal with ONLY HIS SWEAT from 1/2cent back when he was 16yo to now. I asked about being banned, seems out of line with some of that statement but I can understand doing what you think you have to do to support the family.

44bars says he is a bumhunter & scripter but what can he do. He sent me an initial message about 15 mins before Create did. He asked me why I would speculate that he is a bot or superuser during initial messaging. I never said he was a bot or superuser. CreateMyOwnEnergy messaged and said that he heard from a friend that I called him a bot or super user and was I serious. Then said he was backed by one of the biggest backers and a member of team primed mind. I thought I misread it at first because why would they both say I called them a bot/superuser when I clearly didn't. I also messaged Fedor, and he said that this person is a customer, not a team member. I don't know what exactly this guy was trying to imply.

The strat of defense has been quite the opposite. Create engaged in a conversation with me back and forth for a bit saying it was crazy/not true/etc. The initial person who messaged me with the information said Create was trying to call him, but he wasn't answering. We haven't been in communication since and he hasn't tweeted or replied to anyone asking about what was happening before privating his profile. 44bars is out here swinging for the fences talking about lawyers, losing respect, how this type of discussion is the most ridiculously random thing possible and offering to put up six figures.

It's all so ****ing weird.
Fedor told you if someone was a customer or not? that's innapropriate business practice imo. don't give out customer info to random people, but I'm being off topic so proceed.
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02-05-2018 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
Ive been a long time lurker of this forum and find it pretty fun to have a thread about me but Im just a low profile guy who has been grinding nl100-2k for the last years and before these scores you could already find me playing nl200-2k on acr as i registered there like 2 weeks ago maybe.

Regarding to megas, you should be more informed before saying things, I was banned because I let a player use my account the first month and 3-4 other guys got their money confiscated due to colusion, I had 9k frozen for around 3 months and was the only one stars payed back but revoked my privileges to play again on the site, they didnt accuse me of any colusion.

I wouldnt mind to post the hhs from the mtts but I really dont have any interest, I find tournaments very fun and I want to learn how to play them so I can hop in on some sundays as I rarely play tournaments, i ran good in these
This was 44bars first post seems all bs now....I think I’m more convinced now then ever something fishy is going on
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02-05-2018 , 08:27 PM
Release the videos and release the hand history and let us compare!
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02-05-2018 , 08:34 PM
I was semi joking on "learn to lose"

but know I am going in the real ****z. plz excuse my terrible english

There is stacking group on 2+2 who stacke on WPN.

1. I joined that stable and I got an account from costa rika. I am from EU.
2. I was given a spread sheet with all the regs. stats, extensive notes and game plans to beat them.
3. They were able to deposit and withdraw from my account. I never had option to withdraw or deposit on this account.
4. I started form $30 mmt's and soon I was playign anything up to $500 buy-ins.
5. Once I started playing I was not coached once. But the first time I was final tabling a $200 a unknown person with the stables logo on skype requested to join him. He told me that he is the "coach" and suggested to Ghost me when we got 3-4 handed. I refused. latter on I spotted some weaker regs. from my stable, Starting to beast the table once we was short handed. No dought in my mind they were ghosted via team viewer.
6. At this time the GTD MTT's had a lot of free money, because the player pool was too small. I think that is a good deal to hire some midiocre poker players. Pay them 50% of what they win, keep the other 50%, keep the buy-ins, and full your GTD MTT's so that you don't lose money on GTD's.


This is my story and I can back it off with facts.
Btw I had one other account since this one was hacked long ago. But my account was banned because of the marxist demagouges who run the politics sub forum (sucha shame USA getting so marxist is actually sad, since most americans don't know much about history, they got no clue what marxism is ).

Any way please do not ban before I can provide evidence if needed.

I am suggestion is that you do not play mtt's on WPN. The odds are stacked against most of you.

I feel bad about doing this, but I belief that this is the right thing to do.

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02-05-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xBIGx
Release the videos and release the hand history and let us compare!
There are no videos of 44bars, he didn't understand what I said in the video or in writing.


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Originally Posted by Nmb66
I really think Joey is wrong on this one..
I really hope so and hope it's all just weird coincidences.

Talked with ACR CEO earlier, he seemed much more concerned about me making the video in the first place than actually investigating anything I talked about. This conversation left me feeling like there is no winning scenario here. He said he wouldn't be able to reveal if anyone is banned anyway. If it's true, it won't be publicly discussed or acknowledged.

I have played tens of thousands of hands and raked thousands of dollars on the site. I will not be playing any cash games on the site for the foreseeable future.
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02-05-2018 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PT Rainmaker
!Good Try Gus!

P.S(this is a player/buddie of 44bars,who plays in pokerstars.pt and has really bad reputacion.)

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02-05-2018 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
There are no videos of 44bars, he didn't understand what I said in the video or in writing.




I really hope so and hope it's all just weird coincidences.

Talked with ACR CEO earlier, he seemed much more concerned about me making the video in the first place than actually investigating anything I talked about. This conversation left me feeling like there is no winning scenario here. He said he wouldn't be able to reveal if anyone is banned anyway. If it's true, it won't be publicly discussed or acknowledged.
why not? im guessing because they wouldn't tell you the results, but we'd still see accounts if they got deleted? Or maybe you mean the site operators dont care so its us against them? im confused? The answer im getting is its us against them and every man for himself? Or did yo puss out so they don't wind up feeding you to the gators?

seemed more concerned about you making the video cuz itd hurt traffic? why else would he be concerned?
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