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02-04-2018 , 07:18 PM
What's his name on Pokerstars?

I play with him on a daily basis, but I haven't seen any suspicious behaviour.
His stats looks fine. He usually open sits high stakes, but gives up the table after two hands of heads up. He's never grimmed me before.

I'm not saying he hasn't done anything wrong and I haven't played against those other accounts, but I also haven't seen anything that worries me.
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02-04-2018 , 07:29 PM
He and other accounts were banned on PokerStars Portugal.

The story that he tells me and the story that other players tell me are very different but I believe it was due to the same type of collusion discussed going on with ACR right now.

This type of activity isn't something that has to take place 100% of the time for it to be happening. Only the dumbest of dumbest people doing this should ever be caught or suspected.
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02-04-2018 , 07:33 PM
I had him tagged as fishy months ago after he won a tourney that my friend was deep in, he had an absurdly successful tiny 3 bet %, but I don't have a large amount of data on his play
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02-05-2018 , 02:01 AM
Anyone that plays on that crap site deserves to be colluded against/cheated. What a sham.
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02-05-2018 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Davino
Anyone that plays on that crap site deserves to be colluded against/cheated. What a sham.
Yeah, people with almost no options to play online deserve to be cheated for playing, solid post. I guess all the people on Lock Poker deserved to get millions of dollars stolen from them too by that logic?
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02-05-2018 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FreshThyme
Yeah, people with almost no options to play online deserve to be cheated for playing, solid post. I guess all the people on Lock Poker deserved to get millions of dollars stolen from them too by that logic?
Oh don't mind davino. He believes the CIA (or FBI?) is trolling him. Check out his thread, it's good for some LoLs.
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02-05-2018 , 02:35 AM
Im still waiting for my lawyers response on this because this accusations are serious af, I follow Joey for a while and lost all my respect for him obv, this is just so random, I play PLO as a recreational (since Im terrible) and there is NO WAY Im connected to these accounts Joey mentioned, doesnt make sense to post such acusations without recipes of it, feel free to post any proof either in NL or PLO that I did collude or do any shady ****, I open sit nl600-10k and table select all games, at least 5 days a week where I play. The most line-ups I play in wpn are like 4 russians, 1 random and me, the moment I heard this about me I pmed Joey in instagram and offered to get a way to have him shipped all of my PLOs hand histories since I dont track that game, he said he is in contact with the site and didnt ask me for those. This feels terrible because I feel I might lose action but Im more worried about my reputation.
Regarding stars.pt I was not banned, they revoked my playing privileges as they said, and the portuguese comunity knows I stopped playing there in January and they did hold 8000$ from me for 3 months and payed back, while the other 3 people got their money confiscated, I wasnt accused of colluding neither something similar, I could get recipes that I was payed by stars at the time as I was backed at that time aswell. I really feel this damaged my reputation and Im waiting to get some legal advice to see if I should even waste time on this, never been in this spot and neither was waiting such random **** to happen.
enjoy the drama guys
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02-05-2018 , 04:07 AM
Well it’s not random, an unknown account came from no where crushed all the top tournies then sitting at all the highest stakes then turns out you got banned/investIgated on Stars

What u want recipes for tho ?
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02-05-2018 , 04:24 AM
I was seating 25/50$ on wpn even before those mtt scores.

Last edited by 44bars; 02-05-2018 at 04:26 AM. Reason: on wpn*
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02-05-2018 , 04:29 AM
You weren’t banned but you had your playing privileges revoked?
What’s the difference??
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02-05-2018 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
I was seating 25/50$ on wpn even before those mtt scores.
Ok but u played a grand total of 40 tournaments, then within 48hr

1 out of 241 players in the 530 125k GTD
4 out of 262 in the 215 $40k GTD
3 out of 537 in the 109 $50k GTD
1 out of 202 in the 1k 6 max 100k GTD
1 out of 262 in the 420 $50k GTD

How long were you playing 25/50 before all the scores

What’s your sn on Stars

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02-05-2018 , 05:05 AM
You mentioned you would come on the podcast and talk more about it. Let's schedule a time to do it.

You can send me any HHs that you want, I'm not the jury and judge for this, ACR is. I wanted to draw awareness for other players out there.

As I said in messages with you, I want you to be innocent and this to be wrong. You also might have one of the worst reputations I've seen so far as I've received messages from other Portugal poker community members including players with more, detailed information on you and the other accounts who were banned and why. Some of the other information I've been messaged regarded you is pretty messed up stuff. What you have personally told me about your own approach to poker is also interesting.
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02-05-2018 , 05:13 AM
Played a decent amount of NL cash against the guy, can confirm everything what Mixgrill said.
I would also add that with high amount of certainty it's always the same guy playing NL cash on 44bars account.

IMO to cheat in PLO for fun, and grind NL honestly would be a really stupid thing to do, I think Joey got this one wrong.
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02-05-2018 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by morilka
Played a decent amount of NL cash against the guy, can confirm everything what Mixgrill said.
I would also add that with high amount of certainty it's always the same guy playing NL cash on 44bars account.

IMO to cheat in PLO for fun, and grind NL honestly would be a really stupid thing to do, I think Joey got this one wrong.
I hope so.

I've been messaged by others in the Portugal community that this isn't the case. The 44bars stuff has been the most interesting part of all this. I never really wanted to be some type of person that would have to be involved with this type of stuff but it keeps getting weirder each day.
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02-05-2018 , 05:24 AM
lol Joey I said we can talk by web I did never agree to get in ur podcast, I asked you how could I send you PLO hhs if I dont track the games I asked if i could contact support to get all hhs and you said you didnt need you were in touch with them. Anyway Im done discussing anything else here untill I get some legal advice.
Also thanks to Mixgrill and Morilka for posting even tho I dont know you but assume you guys play the highest games regularly vs me.
Gl guys
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02-05-2018 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
lol Joey I said we can talk by web I did never agree to get in ur podcast, I asked you how could I send you PLO hhs if I dont track the games I asked if i could contact support to get all hhs and you said you didnt need you were in touch with them. Anyway Im done discussing anything else here untill I get some legal advice.
Also thanks to Mixgrill and Morilka for posting even tho I dont know you but assume you guys play the highest games regularly vs me.
Gl guys
Tell Phil I said eat a fat one
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02-05-2018 , 09:33 AM
legal advice? why does an innocent player need that? are you under arrest? lawyers always tell you to stop talking anyway. you dont need a lawyer for that.

and if you want to take legal action vs another poker player calling you a cheater. imo I dont think that has ever happened. I haven't even seen your real name in this thread or the other one.
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02-05-2018 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by morilka
IMO to cheat in PLO for fun, and grind NL honestly would be a really stupid thing to do
Not really.
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02-05-2018 , 10:55 AM
May be a strong NLHE player but last few responses are sketch

Clearly banned, admit it but don’t

Legal advice to combat USA podcaster hurting online action (real name hasn’t been outed). Would love to see what the courts think of that. Offense is the best defense?

Will discuss in private but not publicly to defend such a valuable reputation. Need legal advice...

C’mon man
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02-05-2018 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
What's his name on Pokerstars?

I play with him on a daily basis, but I haven't seen any suspicious behaviour.
His stats looks fine. He usually open sits high stakes, but gives up the table after two hands of heads up. He's never grimmed me before.

I'm not saying he hasn't done anything wrong and I haven't played against those other accounts, but I also haven't seen anything that worries me.
+1
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02-05-2018 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MakeBelieve
legal advice? why does an innocent player need that? are you under arrest? lawyers always tell you to stop talking anyway. you dont need a lawyer for that.

and if you want to take legal action vs another poker player calling you a cheater. imo I dont think that has ever happened. I haven't even seen your real name in this thread or the other one.
Why would any player need this? Guilty or innocent I assume this player has already taken most of his winnings off the site and he certainly wont be receiving an incoming suit if hes an American.
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02-05-2018 , 01:01 PM
Legal advice huh? That's a new one. You gonna get legal advice over the thread in NVG that popped up a few months ago questioning whether or not you're a cheater too?

Besides you already have regs coming in here saying your play isn't suspicious, lawyers messed up married and gave endless dude marriage anxiety take a cue from that. Lawyers over this is some spazzy ****.
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02-05-2018 , 01:07 PM
lol i wasnt banned bros... i just got my playing privileges revoked!
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02-05-2018 , 01:44 PM
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I was not banned, they revoked my playing privileges
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02-05-2018 , 01:47 PM
Did he check his privilege before it was revoked?
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