WPN has been around for 10 years or more and there are powerball winners all the time......


I haven't heard **** about WPN being super shady so I'm gonna go with "what's a skilled power ball winner" for 200 Alex!!!!!



edit: 2016ers gonna 2016 amiright?

Can't wait to try the new 44bars app and coaching course...

sup guys
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Sick brag rocking that alien avatar, that is dope af man!!

should have missclicked and put the avatar ffs xD

How much does Phil pay you?

How much for coaching?

Based on his current results would you pay him $350 an hour?

350 sovs an hour? Seems excessive.

Only in america!

Anyone else think the Amazon logo is highly phallic?

14:14 . . .

Actually it starts at around 13:50, joey naming 44bars as one of these multiaccounts. Chances he won all these tournaments in a row in a non cheating way are pretty small imo Probably has a lot of accounts, joins the tournaments, maybe some chipdumping, maybe not. Maybe 44bars was one of the accounts who just made it to all of these final tables, but 20other accounts of him busted, still very nice profit.

Have you guys ever looked into the WPN subforum? The bots on that site are so blatant and obvious, but the threads who debate that bot topic, often get closed ir the rep comes in and makes jokes about it!?.

The rep doesnt want to talk about it, and it feels like 2+2 admins, dont want to talk about that either. I will stop playing on ACR, its just too dangerous.

When you see the bot situation, and the possible multi account situation, then you could start to wonder: "hm maybe there are even superusers, like on the old Ultrimatebet" its not far fetched to assume that!

ACR is unregulated, no one controls these people. Its stupid. Stop playing there i guess?!

The ultimate deciding factor if you should play there or not is your profitability.

While being profitable on every other site I played on I was not on any of the WPN skins. Few of my friends that are profitable on stars are not profitable on WPN. While their hand samples are big enough it's still just a few people so it's not statistically certain.

I completely share Joey's sentiment, even the possibility of superusers, maybe even house superusers. But since I have zero tangible proof these claims remain a sentiment.

My(and few people I know) lack of profitability here vs other sites is something I can measure. Sure it might be due to superior competition I'm up against. Regardless, since I play for profit, I no longer play on WPN.

Said it for years. No one listened. Always got the “tin foil hat” treatment.
So f u all , I’m going home.

I'm not sure what this means. Who's unwilling to talk about "that"? What is "that"?

If anything, I'd expect we'd be unqualified to talk about whatever "that" is. What are you hoping to find out from 2+2 admins?

Ironic one of my friends and I were chatting about 44bars being banned from Stars (I believe) for multiaccounting a week or so ago.

I reported a guy that was folding multiple times BVB to a player sitting out over a decent period of time(where any human would use his eyes and see him sitting out) and that account is still playing and crushing. Must have been a blind human or..... something.

It's pretty funny reading the 1st page now with everyone thinking op is full of it.

Maybe a bad choice of words, sry Iam not a native speaker. What I wanted to Say is that for me it's just weird that there are threads in that subforum about bots etc and some of them get closed. I know there are open threads about that topic but I remeber one thread was closed cause OP didn't show evidence or smt like that.
Note sure I'd the acr rep in that thread has mod rights, so he can close threads or not.
The bots on that site are so so so obvious, Iam just wondering that after all this complains from players, why isn't there for example a thread about possible bots sticked to the top of that forum or something like that.

To me it's insane that you still advertise that site (there are commercials here on2p2 I think) There is smt shady going on, a lot of people talk about that, even on late night in America they were talking about the acr bots lol.

I don't know, just a weird situation. Maybe just go sit in any nl cg on that site, or sit at an Hu sng and you will understand . At nl cash, what I saw over and over again overr only 1k hands were following situations:

I or Co, bu 3b (eastern European guy), bb coldflat (eastern) as well, and then they would bet raise me out of a pot. After I folded they would check down or bet weird river sizes so that the other guy just easily could fold. The bot/multiaccounting on that is so insane. Nothing compared to what I have seen on PS or Pp so far...

Just my cents.

If this is actually true then hes 100% going to be cheating on WPN.

I called it in october.

I cannot confirm or deny the accusations, as it was secondhand knowledge, but the person talking to me about it would definitely have the resources to get accurate info and doesn't just randomly spout that kind of stuff out.

No problem.

That doesn't seem all that weird to me. I see there is an open thread on NL bots, one on PLO bots, and another on SNG bots, all started back in November. How many bot threads does there need to be?

That sounds like a really good reason to close a thread, TBH.

Often I think we've had a problem with people throwing names out there with very little in the way of evidence - not talking about on ACR specifically, but many sites. It's interesting how times have changed - years ago on this forum, people would be taken to task for bringing forward names with little to no evidence, and now it's become a lot more acceptable. Unfortunately, this may be because botting is more of a problem on some sites. Either way, I think there are times when it would be quite appropriate to close or delete a thread with no evidence, and there are probably other times when people have obviously done their homework but don't want to tip their hand by presenting their evidence, that names should be allowed to stand.

Yes, they do. And this may be a concern to players, but if they're not getting their concerns heard or properly dealt with in a sponsored forum, they're welcome to start a thread in Internet Poker, or in this case, we have multiple threads in NVG about the topic.

I think it would be a little unusual for a site to sticky such a thread in their own forum, but I don't think it really matters - there are a few botting threads on the first page.

If you give this some thought, it really isn't. We've seen numerous issues brought forward with pretty much every site at some point. Locked accounts, missing money, collusion, botting, and more. Some of them turn out to be legitimate concerns that are addressed by the site, some turn out to be cases where the player(s) in question are misleading everyone, and some where the issue is never addressed to the satisfaction of many. If we were to shut down the advertising of every site where questions were raised, I'm afraid it would be time to shut down 2+2 as we wouldn't have any advertisers left.

That's not to to say we would never refuse new advertising or cancel existing advertising with a site that we felt was, or had become, disreputable - we've done both in the past. But I don't think we're anywhere close to such a threshold here.

What's important to me is that players are voicing their concerns, and providing information for others to use before deciding to play there.

breaking news: a site primarly targeting a market where their product is illegal seems shady

Their product isn't illegal, processing the money has been made illegal tho in '06. There is like 2-3 states where it's illegal afaik.