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44bars wins 3 of the first 6 Boss Events on Americas Cardroom 44bars wins 3 of the first 6 Boss Events on Americas Cardroom

10-18-2017 , 10:05 AM
44bars who has only played 40 tournies on Americas cardroom and won Boss event #2 for $28k, #5 for $11k , and #6 for $43k all in a two night span. He also got 3rd in the 100 50k for another $5.5k last night and 4th in the 215 extreme tuesday for $3800 in the same night winning event #5 and #6. Is this possible or is there possible cheating going on here??


To clarify he was
1 out of 241 players in the 530 125k GTD
4 out of 262 in the 215 $40k GTD
3 out of 537 in the 109 $50k GTD
1 out of 202 in the 1k 6 max 100k GTD
1 out of 262 in the 420 $50k GTD


This was all in a 2 night span with only 40 tournies played on the site before this!!! This would have to be like 1 in 10 million chance of happening or there is cheating going on here!
These were 5 of the 6 big tournies on the whole site the last two nights

Last edited by tyler11; 10-18-2017 at 10:32 AM.
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10-18-2017 , 10:16 AM
possible. lots of good regs finding their way to ACR as pokerstars continues to mess things up.
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10-18-2017 , 10:23 AM
^^lol

Oh and OP? No way is online poker rigged , hacked or cheated in anyway. The teenagers that hacked the Pentagon were waaay an acception & that drone that was hacked over yonder some time ago was a fluke as well

Online poker website encryption is leaps and poopies above anything a military/Government could come up with.

No worries brah its just cause the dood saw more hands than live poker
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10-18-2017 , 10:26 AM
how big are the fields, there are stories of people winning two pokerstars sunday majors in a day with massive fields / winning multiple wcoops or scoops. Crazy good runs happen , part of poker. Unless there are HHs / super suspect play being presented by people who were on FT with him then there's probably no reason to speculate lol
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10-18-2017 , 10:32 AM
all high stakes MTT's with fields averaging ~300 players

very possible.

take off the tin foil hat NoQuarter
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10-18-2017 , 11:14 AM


even crazier, this happened one sunday
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10-18-2017 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler11
This would have to be like 1 in 10 million chance of happening or there is cheating going on here!
Not even close. This is the innappropriate view of odds fallacy and the texas sharpshooter fallacy. The chances of some player at some time having some type of extremely good result is nowhere near 1 in 10 million, quite the opposite, it's a favorite to happen. Think about how many players there are, how many tournaments there are, how many years poker has been around, how many opportunities there are to have extreme results.

If before the run took place, you singled out this particular player and said he would win these particular tournaments on this particular day, then it would be something like 1 in 10 million, probably lower. But that's not what happened, it could have happened tomorrow, a year from now, it could be a different player, it could be a bunch of 2nd place instead of 1st, etc.

Look for suspicious play to prove cheating. Otherwise you have no evidence. All you have is something happened that has happened before, that we would expect to happen again even if there is no cheating involved.
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10-18-2017 , 11:36 AM
I woudn't be surprised if this guy played under names at the bigger pokersites that many people would know. Lots of people hop on ACR for there bigger tourneys so the dude is prolly a known reg.
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10-18-2017 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00


even crazier, this happened one sunday
Holy ****
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10-18-2017 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooozy
Not even close. This is the innappropriate view of odds fallacy and the texas sharpshooter fallacy. The chances of some player at some time having some type of extremely good result is nowhere near 1 in 10 million, quite the opposite, it's a favorite to happen. Think about how many players there are, how many tournaments there are, how many years poker has been around, how many opportunities there are to have extreme results.

If before the run took place, you singled out this particular player and said he would win these particular tournaments on this particular day, then it would be something like 1 in 10 million, probably lower. But that's not what happened, it could have happened tomorrow, a year from now, it could be a different player, it could be a bunch of 2nd place instead of 1st, etc.

Look for suspicious play to prove cheating. Otherwise you have no evidence. All you have is something happened that has happened before, that we would expect to happen again even if there is no cheating involved.
^^^
This

Also confidence as well as bravery to make certain plays is very important, so someone in winning form gains this above and beyond their normal levels, which naturally increases/positively skews their chances of winning.

This also applies in certain sports where confidence and the mental game are crucial (e.g. golf and snooker) It's fairly common in golf for a player to win back to back tournaments in fields of circa 130 players.

Tyrell Hatton did it just 3 days ago and Justin Thomas has done it once this season and nearly on 2 other occasions.
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10-18-2017 , 12:37 PM
Cringy title
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10-18-2017 , 12:44 PM
Yea I checked some lobbies this morning and saw this incredible run as well. Wow at that Pokerstars screenshot even more though, that is truly insane, this is just small field high buyin tournaments breaking for a player.
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10-18-2017 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooozy
Not even close. This is the innappropriate view of odds fallacy and the texas sharpshooter fallacy. The chances of some player at some time having some type of extremely good result is nowhere near 1 in 10 million, quite the opposite, it's a favorite to happen. Think about how many players there are, how many tournaments there are, how many years poker has been around, how many opportunities there are to have extreme results.

If before the run took place, you singled out this particular player and said he would win these particular tournaments on this particular day, then it would be something like 1 in 10 million, probably lower. But that's not what happened, it could have happened tomorrow, a year from now, it could be a different player, it could be a bunch of 2nd place instead of 1st, etc.

Look for suspicious play to prove cheating. Otherwise you have no evidence. All you have is something happened that has happened before, that we would expect to happen again even if there is no cheating involved.
to be fair. if you took these exact tournaments only and everyone was a robot and said hed finish in these exact positions the odds when by many factors higher than 10 million to 1
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10-18-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by p2ryan
to be fair. if you took these exact tournaments only and everyone was a robot and said hed finish in these exact positions the odds when by many factors higher than 10 million to 1
Sure. I meant results with a profit greater than or equal to the profit he had over these tournaments would probably be even more unlikely than 10 million to 1, if you talk about these exact finishes then that's far, far more unlikely.

An analogy would be if you flipped a coin 50 billion times, and then said "Hey, on flips 4,645,324,213 to 4,645,324,313 it was heads 100 times in a row! That's less than 1 in 10 million to happen so it must be rigged!" In reality with that many flips, you expect the multiple instances of 100 heads in a row, so that's no evidence of it being rigged at all.
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10-18-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Cringy title
If a title of a thread makes you cringe , then throw your computer in the trash, the Internet is not for you.
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10-18-2017 , 06:12 PM
Kenny Hallaert Final Tabled Colossus (22k+ entries), Then the next year final tabled the Main Event (6700+ entries). Mark Newhouse made back to back main event final tables (6300+ and 6600+ entries) and finished in 9th place both times.

Live poker confirmed rigged.
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10-18-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooozy
Sure. I meant results with a profit greater than or equal to the profit he had over these tournaments would probably be even more unlikely than 10 million to 1, if you talk about these exact finishes then that's far, far more unlikely.

An analogy would be if you flipped a coin 50 billion times, and then said "Hey, on flips 4,645,324,213 to 4,645,324,313 it was heads 100 times in a row! That's less than 1 in 10 million to happen so it must be rigged!" In reality with that many flips, you expect the multiple instances of 100 heads in a row, so that's no evidence of it being rigged at all.
pretty sure the odds of flipping a coin 100 times heads in a row is like over 100000000000000000000000000000-1
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10-18-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FlapJacks316
pretty sure the odds of flipping a coin 100 times heads in a row is like over 100000000000000000000000000000-1
The point remains that within 50 billion flips, you expect some long streaks of all heads. Also there's a huge difference between getting it on the first 100 flips and at any point within 50 billion. However 100 was not a good choice to make my point, I should have picked an amount in a row that would be a 10 million : 1 underdog.
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10-18-2017 , 09:46 PM
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take off the tin foil hat NoQuarter
No

Spoiler:
Image is everything
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10-18-2017 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00


even crazier, this happened one sunday


pic of old payout structures makes me wanna cry
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10-19-2017 , 03:55 AM
easily possible with those small of fields, dude is pry zoned and a good player + run goods
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10-19-2017 , 05:25 AM
Three quite good regs on that sunday storm final table. Some random masher from New Zealand bubbling the final table! Oh the memories
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10-19-2017 , 10:32 PM
I think there is certainly a chance. The odds of doing this are pretty astronomical.
Don't know why you guys are trolling this post.
Has there ever been cheating B4 in online poker ... yes!

Don't know what you can do about it.
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10-19-2017 , 10:46 PM
Well wrt Apex's post, he could just not play at ACR anymore if he believes that he's being cheated. That's what he could do about it. I choose to think his post is a troll post gone too far though because it's so ****ing stupid.
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10-19-2017 , 11:43 PM
Hey, hey!!!! You guys remember when Johnny Chan was all like BAM!!! winning the main event in '87, and then he was all like BOOM!!! winning it again in '88, and then he was all like WHAM!!!! placing 2nd in '89??

You guys remember that?

That was cool.
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