hi 44 bars

Anyone who doesn't have a pitchfork out, is in on it. We just don't know what "it" is yet.

Superusing? Collusion? Bots?

What did he do, in your opinion, and what convinced you of his guilt?

Anyone who had their "playing privileges revoked" on the network that takes game integrity the most serious and then starts destroying on a network with poor security should send off red flags. This doesn't mean he's necessarily guilty of any wrongdoing on WPN, but it's perfectly fine to be skeptical and to alert others of the situation. Without damning evidence to prove he's cheating, he has, and will continue to play.

This. And my mistake, he won the $180K ish in under 98 tournaments in what could only be described as an epic run winning 6 high stakes tournaments in 10 days before a 6 month 400 game streak where he basically sucks than hits a first. Sucks.....hits a first. Not sure I ever seen stats like this on sharkscope. No 2nds, 3rds, 9ths, in other tournaments, Nope this guy is the epitome of Play to win or not cash at all I guess in the HS trny's. Than there is the fact he was banned, but lol who was not banned from a site? Oh yeah most of us. So this guy either runs stranger than **** or something.

Seriously can anyone produce a sharkscope with nothing but top 5's
(in all HUGE tournaments) or nothing for their entire graph? 10 wins no other cashes?

What those last two guys said.

Nobody's giving 44 the benefit of the doubt unless they're the biggest contrarian on earth.

He uses a bot to get deep then turns on superuser to win tourney

He colludes in cash game by playing multiple accounts on same table

Is this guy a bot too?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=70198

Winning a bunch of 65$ sng at a local casino isn’t the same

So my guess is he’s not a bot

Post his online poker sharkscope graph

i thought xxblackjackxx was his friend? Havent seen them two at the tables or blackjack playing lately.

Correction: **** 44bars, he's grimmed me multiple times after having stated he doesn't grim.

I love how his ability ranking is 95% on sharkscope, 5% of players are doing better than him.

**** tourneys, dude is owning the high stakes lobby. I'm curious wtf is up with this dude. He's in all the high stakes nl cash games looking like he's crushing and he's crushing Mtts too. Either he's a legit dominator at poker and just happen to run good at a few tourneys with some possible loophole advatage or he's a superuser.

The thing is we don't have high stakes cash game 2+2ers bringing in any accusations whatsoever. Maybe there was some collusion but I'm curious what the high stakes players have to say.

I've been watching those games sometimes, and he does make bluffcatching calls or bluffs and loses, so I don't think he's superusing. He could be using real-time software or something though.

Ya I'm thinking he isn't super using, maybe some loopholing and some colluding but I think there is plenty of legit play on top of that.... IF he is doing anything shady at all.

Honestly I'm just not convinced. WPN has for sure had some funky stuff going on but 44Bars would need some of the hardcore math/poker geeks analyzing his play to say so imo. His tourney stuff does seem like maybe he's was using the MTT loophole but anyone could play that game.....


I'm not trying to be contrarian but post proof for **** off. MTTs for sure on WPN have been an exploit. Bots... you can post 12 names with the same stats so pretty much garunteed. 44bars? Only thing he has so far is big wins, playing with the same account here and there and his funds being given back by stars after an investigation although he had his account closed. Still had his funds returned sooo.......


Post at least some smoke to fire is what needs to be done with 44bars imo.

results are crazy
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banned from other site
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network subpar security
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admited breaking rules on others site


do I have to keep going? at the least he is cheating without actually "cheating" using a very elaborate setup or some weird stuff like that.

An intelligent superuser is going to do stuff like this though. In fact, only a complete idiot would superuse and not do these things.

I guess he also doesn't call with 9 high when it's the best hand, goed all in for $100 more in a $2000 pot with third pair for value and folds kings versus aces. Anyone with half a brain would not play 100% perfectly.

This is what constitutes proof nowadays?

Your 1st and 3rd points are meaningless when it comes to proving wrongdoing by 44bars.

What did he admit to doing on the other site that you think will explain his results on WPN?

This is some kind of proof of bots, 12 accounts almost the same stats. What you have is speculation.....

How do you know that is even the real 44bars and not some random kid trolling?

He created his account after this thread was made.

Yeah, I know and thought of this. Look at his posts; true he's not a native English speaker as far as we know, but his posts in this thread don't come across as him being highly intelligent imo.

I'm not saying he's a super user, but you do realize a crafty super user would lose money in spots like this to remain undetected, right? They would know that they're just going to win it back later and then some.

Yeah, I do. See above your comment.

I did assume this was the case at first. I thought the lawyer thing was pretty funny. If it is a troll though I think he would have said something more absurd. Was a bit too tame and bland for me to think it was a troll job. Not going to rule it out though.