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4 stabbed at popular Washington state poker room. 4 stabbed at popular Washington state poker room.

12-14-2022 , 09:21 AM
A lot of cities are experiencing increased violence the last few years and it appears that increased violence has entered the poker room as 4 people were stabbed (some multiple times). The long time poker room is located in the New Phoenix/Last Frontier Casino which is about 20 miles north of Vancouver Washington, and 25 miles north of Portland Oregon. The scenic former volcano Mt. St Helens is close by.

https://www.koin.com/local/clark-cou...ington-casino/

There's one well known poker pro that has been known to call players morons at the table. Maybe he and others will think twice about doing that in today's environment.
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12-14-2022 , 10:59 AM
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12-15-2022 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
A lot of cities are experiencing increased violence the last few years and it appears that increased violence has entered the poker room as 4 people were stabbed (some multiple times). The long time poker room is located in the New Phoenix/Last Frontier Casino which is about 20 miles north of Vancouver Washington, and 25 miles north of Portland Oregon. The scenic former volcano Mt. St Helens is close by.

https://www.koin.com/local/clark-cou...ington-casino/

There's one well known poker pro that has been known to call players morons at the table. Maybe he and others will think twice about doing that in today's environment.
Well article says the attacks were unprovoked so I don't really understand your "moron" comment. No evidence I know of that such behavior was involved especially since the apparent second victim was just sitting there after first attack.

BTW, Mt. St. Helens still is a volcano; an active one to boot (you moron) [sorry just kidding, I couldn't help myself]
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12-15-2022 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fore
Well article says the attacks were unprovoked so I don't really understand your "moron" comment. No evidence I know of that such behavior was involved especially since the apparent second victim was just sitting there after first attack.
If the person sitting next to the assaulter did absolutely nothing to warrant the attack, just think how much more likely a person who calls others a moron would be susceptible to being attacked, especially in today's environment where violence seems much more prevalent.

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BTW, Mt. St. Helens still is a volcano; an active one to boot (you moron) [sorry just kidding, I couldn't help myself]
I have to admit I was a little uncertain about the current status of Mt. St Helens but I figured any readers might find it of interest that the poker room was close to the mountain. I also must admit I wasn't willing to take the time to look it up and figured if I was incorrect someone would "politely" correct me. I should have known expecting a polite correction might have been overly optimistic in today's web environment.
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12-15-2022 , 07:12 AM
I'm setting the over/under at three months before we have a player-on-player shooting in a card room.
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12-15-2022 , 04:54 PM
Need to ban knives
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12-15-2022 , 07:48 PM
Not sure if security there was armed, but if they were armed the guard probably would of had justification to blow the guy away right there in the poker room. That probably would have prevented the other 2 or 3 from being stabbed.
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12-15-2022 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by preki
Need to ban knives
ya really

can't casino's afford to have metal detectors at the entrance and
prohibit guns / knives etc.
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12-16-2022 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
A lot of cities are experiencing increased violence the last few years and it appears that increased violence has entered the poker room as 4 people were stabbed (some multiple times). The long time poker room is located in the New Phoenix/Last Frontier Casino which is about 20 miles north of Vancouver Washington, and 25 miles north of Portland Oregon. The scenic former volcano Mt. St Helens is close by.

https://www.koin.com/local/clark-cou...ington-casino/

There's one well known poker pro that has been known to call players morons at the table. Maybe he and others will think twice about doing that in today's environment.
Care to quote any factual data regarding increased violence in cities? Cities are safer than ever, actually.
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12-16-2022 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Gulo Gulo
Care to quote any factual data regarding increased violence in cities? Cities are safer than ever, actually.
Quote from the article "Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates"

"The homicide rate is increasing rapidly in the U.S., so much so that President Joe Biden has made tackling the problem a priority and spoke in his State of the Union address about his plans to reduce violence. Alarmingly, homicide rates have risen by an average of nearly 10% in 50 of the most populated U.S. cities between Q3 2021 and Q3 2022, and are still rising."

https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-homicide-rate/94070
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12-16-2022 , 08:49 AM
Make sure this guy wasn't in Moscow, ID on Nov. 13
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12-16-2022 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gulo Gulo
Care to quote any factual data regarding increased violence in cities? Cities are safer than ever, actually.
Care to quote any factual data regarding decreased violence in cities?
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12-16-2022 , 07:11 PM
I realize what I'm about to talk about will seem odd and at the very bottom of the barrel as far as being important with regard to this sad incident but you got to wonder was the assaulter winning or losing in the game. I would have to believe it's almost certain he would be losing.

And if losing, how much? Did he go totally broke and lose all his chips, and if so, did that play a part in the assaults.

Also, if he left any chips on the table, someone at the card room would have to make the decision what will happen to the chips?
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On a more important note, I think we all owe some gratitude to the people who are responsible for catching this deranged person. Those that gave a description of his car to the police. And to the police department for doing the dangerous job of chasing this guy at a very high rate of speed and catching him. Maybe the casino could donate some money to charity in the name of the officers and other people responsible for catching this guy.

Last edited by EasyGo; 12-16-2022 at 07:16 PM.
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12-16-2022 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
Care to quote any factual data regarding decreased violence in cities?
No u

Answer please
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12-17-2022 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
Care to quote any factual data regarding decreased violence in cities?
In some cities it's up, in some it's down. It's called variance.
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12-17-2022 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
In some cities it's up, in some it's down. It's called variance.
That's pretty much always going to be the case in a very large diverse country like the United States whether it's violence or unemployment rates or whatever but I would have to say overall it's up as pointed out in the article cited in post #10.
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12-17-2022 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
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On a more important note, I think we all owe some gratitude to the people who are responsible for catching this deranged person. Those that gave a description of his car to the police. And to the police department for doing the dangerous job of chasing this guy at a very high rate of speed and catching him. Maybe the casino could donate some money to charity in the name of the officers and other people responsible for catching this guy.
No mention of the nurses or doctors who really saved lives and have dangerous jobs? How about they donate in the names of the 1000s of people murdered every year because of interactions with police? (including high speed chases)
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12-17-2022 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
but I would have to say overall it's up as pointed out in the article cited in post #10.
I read that, can you explain how your post shows it's up overall? For starters why that time frame? Why include Garland, TX and not San Antonio? Why include Scottsdale, AZ and not San Diego?
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12-17-2022 , 09:56 AM
Steven Pinker wrote a book in 2011 "The Better Angels of Our Nature" discussing how violence tends to trend down over time. There are occasional spikes in the wrong direction, including ironically the peace and love 60s when anti-authority was big. I would say we are seeing some of that now as it is once again popular to denigrate the police. If even President Biden admits that violence is up, violence is definitely up.
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12-17-2022 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
That's pretty much always going to be the case in a very large diverse country like the United States whether it's violence or unemployment rates or whatever but I would have to say overall it's up as pointed out in the article cited in post #10.
They used like a two year sample lol. Check murder rates nationwide over the past 40 years. It’s gone down.
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12-17-2022 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
If the person sitting next to the assaulter did absolutely nothing to warrant the attack
Just out of curiosity..how does one even warrant an attack by doing...anything (except possibly attacking first)?
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12-17-2022 , 11:31 AM
It's my fault. I took a stab at the pot and all hell broke loose.
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12-17-2022 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
I read that, can you explain how your post shows (homicides are) up overall? For starters why that time frame? Why include Garland, TX and not San Antonio? Why include Scottsdale, AZ and not San Diego?

Well the article says

"Alarmingly, homicide rates have risen by an average of nearly 10% in 50 of the most populated U.S. cities between Q3 2021 and Q3 2022, and are still rising."

and it says

"The homicide rate is increasing rapidly in the U.S., so much so much so that President Joe Biden has made tackling the problem a priority and spoke in his State of the Union address about his plans to reduce violence.
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As far as the time frame goes it just makes sense to talk about the last 1 or 2 years. That what news is about, what's happening now not what's happening 5 years ago. When I try to buy a house what's important is what is the interest rate now not the average interest rate over the last 10 years.
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You asked why include Scotsdale and not San Diego. Well, the graph showed the cities with the highest increase in the homicide rate per 100,000. Scotsdale and the other cities had a higher rate increase per capita. San Diego's rate might not have increased or might not have increased as much as the 50 cities mentioned. That doesn't mean San Diego doesn't have a problem with homicides.
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12-17-2022 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by antialias
Just out of curiosity..how does one even warrant an attack by doing...anything (except possibly attacking first)?
Justification for a violent response is subjective. For example one person might shrug off being called a moron, whereas another person might think responding with violence is totally justified.
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12-17-2022 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
They used like a two year sample lol. Check murder rates nationwide over the past 40 years. It’s gone down.
This! (obviously)
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