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Originally Posted by hitman4hire
Aggressive bum hunting at mid to high stakes killed it all and with less incentives to deposit and reductions in rake back your player who can afford to dump a few Ks for fun is now extinct,The cannibalistic nature of poker and in 2018 when some are not even high skilled just have software edge its hard to see a way back.
The only thing any Euro player can wish for the convergence of all the player pools again in stead of segregation that was the biggest nail the coffin,
after the USA pulled out.
Again the bum hunting is now so rampant its seen at nano stakes thats why my strategies is always to be the losest most aggressive player in any game and then adjust!
Reverse bum hunting serves me well.
And let me add when you can rent a server for 60 dollars a month run a dedicated high end custom laptop next to your Poker PC and get some IT genius from a 3rd word country to code trees that you can solve in real time with PIO and other software the game is almost solved in real time. Thats were we are at and hence why I very rarely play on any site that allows HUDs anymore.
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Originally Posted by FreshThyme
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The increase in skill is overrated, most of the "regs" couldn't play without software and scripts. Not even talking huds, but real time huds, real time hand charts, etc etc. Finding a way to remove the parasitic software would drastically change things.
These are the types of sentiments I am referring to. The misconception that players trying to find +ev spots killed the games and that taking away their ability or want to do so could possibly improve the games. The same goes for "parasitic software". It is only a partial perspective of the whole as using the software also requires skill, study, practice etc.
The games were not killed by these things anymore than the drying up of the profitability sent players deeper in these strategy lines to survive. And for that the regulatory environment and restrictions from payment processors was the real cause. Lack of competition in the industry for Poker Stars allowed continual unfavorable changes to the games that increased effective rake while players had no reasonable alternatives.
You don't want players who want to ban hides, software, or "bum-hunting" to get their way. You want all options. Some players can play in hudless games, some players play in hud'd games etc. Bum hunting is part of some player's strategy and its +ev. Some games and sites could be built for it in certain ways and some could be, for example, random seat placement...
There are many crypto sites popping up, and the majority are wild west fashion and the games are great. Parasitic software and bum hunting is not killing them, they are thriving and growing at a rapid pace. The decline in poker had nothing to do with the players efforts to win.