Rob Young..looks after me well even if I did not take the casino credit! A very intelligent guy. passion is poker but god dam this guy will school you on business and other traits in life we had a very good drink he paid for most but hell I had to recoup some of the buy in!

I am now rebased in Sweden but this guys casino is the best in the UK.I will come and see you soon for a little game!

Any of the high stakes online guys you haven’t previously had on would be sick. MMA, Deano, Makeboifin, Llinus, Mczhang etc

Thanks Joey for all Your Great work over the Years it's Much appreciated Thanks Man Can't wait to see You You have in the Future . . .

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Large Spary Paint saying Thanks . . . .

lol gotta get will back on the pod

This. Add in Bit2Easy and Ali Imsirovic. Would actually really enjoy a podcast with Ali.

I was interested in Cumicon's retrospective views on poker now that he quit the poker scene, and he was kind enough to reply to a PM from me, and gave me a really interesting reply on how he looks back on things. His interview with Joey was a bit like a rabbit trapped in headlights, which isn't really representative, so it would be cool to have a Joey update interview with Cumicon, for a different perspective on poker.

Just want to say the podcast with Rob Yong was fantastic. I still have an hour left to watch. Had to pause due to work commitments.

Highlights so far, Rob explaining about guarantors in high stakes games, I had no idea about this and I'm sure many others didn't, so superb information for him to divulge.

I also love his disdain for regular corporate culture, so refreshing to hear and amazing and very admirable coming from someone in the gaming industry where you'd think such ideals would not be possible. Wp Sir, and obviously great interviewing by Joey as always.

Ask Cumicon if you can post it (he can even tell you to withhold any parts he doesn't want getting out) and I agree with you, he seems like a nice guy, but he was SO boring in that interview, I wish Joey could've badgered him more to do a deeper dive into spots.

Going to give a suggestion for you Joey, listening to the Rob interview as per the suggestion above, it's a very interesting interview, however it can be difficult to get into interviews that are 2 hours long if you don't know it's going to be a good one.

Perhaps what you can do is take notes during the interview at different time points when you're talking about different subjects and then create a 5-10 minute preview video that you include before the interview going over the gist of what was discussed and perhaps even give a rating /10 or a recommendation for who this type of interview would interest.

As far as the Rob interview about people playing on Stars as opposed to Party, I will give my take:

I am a winning low-low mid stakes player and I don't like Stars at all, I try and support Party as much as I can and only play on Stars for super deep events or high guarantees.

The problem with Party is their novelty games, I personally love to play Zooms and HU Zooms, I've made this suggestion to them a few times but they flat out said no. While I think they are headed in the right direction (excellent software now, excellent rake and rakeback), in other regards (scheduling, starting stacks and novelty tournies), they are SO far behind Stars, it's hard to support them when I personally don't really do regular tournies that much.

+1 to asking if you can share

OK, I will drop him a PM and ask if he is ok with me sharing his reply.

I had contacted as I was just fascinated by the contrasts, he achieved the dream me and so many here have, he had been wildly successful, yet was quitting at what he was so good at, and for someone so successful it wasn't seeming to have brought him much happiness. And he struck me as a very private guy, so doing an interview wouldn't have come naturally to him.

But I think that interview was something that caught him out, as he looked a little like a rabbit trapped in headlights as he was so unused to public speaking like that, but I could tell he is more articulate than came across in that one off talk, so that is why I would love him to do a follow up one, as now having seen that interview he will know better how to present himself, as his story is so fascinating.

Hi Folks,

Cumicon or rather, Cullen now, has helpfully agreed with your suggestion of my placing his reply to my PM to him. The context to that PM was I had had been struck by the contrasts of a clearly private guy talking about personal issues on such a public forum, so asked him about that, and how life after poker was going, and if he had any regrets about his poker life. I found it (and still find it) fascinating how he achieved his goals,. and then moved away, whereas so many others plug away unsuccessfully.

So, over to Cullen…


"You are right in thinking that I'm a private person so it was a bit of a strange experience doing the podcast and have to talk about myself for 2 hours. I didn't really like how it turned out when I watched it back, but it was my first time doing something like that, and I think I would do a lot better now if I had to do it again.

Life is pretty good, being able to wake up everyday and do whatever I want without having to worry about needing to make more money is such a privilege. It's kind of funny to think about regrets with poker. Sometimes I think that I should have played more and pushed myself harder in the 2006-2011 time frame, and sometimes I think I should have played less from 2012-2017. Overall I'm pretty happy with how it turned out and don't have any big regrets.

I would say I'm most pleased with maximizing the potential that poker provided me. I was fortunate to find it at a great time (2005), I recognized early on that I could make money doing it, and from there I was able to really maximize the opportunity that poker provided.

I don't have any plans to play the WSOP or anything. Poker just doesn't really interest me anymore. I think I liked it because it was a fun way to make money, but I'm not sure I ever felt the game itself was super fun or anything. And now that I have made enough money, the thrill of winning money isn't there anymore.

Best of luck,
Cullen"

+1

way better than expected (only impression I had from the guy was him donking around in those huge PLO games while looking like a chain-smoking slot-machine-degen )

also hilarious how he basically claimed to crush Joey at PLO.
hand histories and stories around them were absolutely epic too!

Papi should consider the podcast free coaching from Rob!

cullen sounds like a genuinely good guy, and not everybody is made for podcasts

Rob Young podcast was the nuts.

Cliffs from first half of the podcast:

• Rob Young stumbled into the casino scene. Traveled the world for a few years playing poker. Tried to register for a tournament 1 minute late once, was rejected, on the drive home decided to open his own 50-table poker room that allowed late buy-ins. It expanded, and now he owns Dusk til Dawn casino
• Leon and Matt dispute was mostly over ego. Leon agreed to pay full sum, Matt felt bad b/c Leon was drunk, offered Leon a discount. Leon accepted discount, then Matt reneged, then Leon was upset because they made a deal. Lawyers got involved, it got nasty, but it was resolved amicably and the two are now friends.
• The "more rake is better" argument is horse$hit. How can taking money out of the poker ecosystem ever be good? The problem is that Amaya/PokerStars has a duty to their shareholders to make as much money as possible, which means taking as much money as possible from the players in the long run. Rob believes this will never change. The only way to combat this is for the players to agree to all play somewhere else, forcing PokerStars to lower the rake.
• Rob is a part of Party Poker, and promotes them. Party Poker wants to make the playing field more even for recs, which means completely eliminating HUDs/TableSharks/Sharkscope/etc. Party Poker is working to build bigger and better guarantees without taking a $hitload of rake like PokerStars is doing.
• All high-stakes games have guarantors. The guarantor is responsible for paying all the winners however much they are up, and for collecting from the losers. The guarantors do this because they either a.) Believe they have a big enough edge in the game to run the risk of not getting paid a little by the losers; b.) Trust all the players to get paid; or c.)Get a kickback from the casinos for bringing high rollers to the casino
• Rob tried multiple times to get Joey to play PLO with him. Joey was visibly nervous, and didn't answer how high of stakes he is willing to play. Rob invited Joey to the next live game, which will potentially in the Bahamas. Rob wants Doug Polk to play too.

Will be podcasting on Weds at 2pm EST w/ Makeboifin aka one of our own from 2p2. He started playing poker only in the past couple of years and currently plays HSNL on Pokerstars.

Also on Thursday 4pm EST I am going to have on one of my favorite people I follow on Twitter from the self-help, try to crush it world. I've probably learned more about life in this year from Ed's tweets, blogs, and content than anyone else out there online.

https://twitter.com/EdLatimore

legit

Regarding the latest vid, Dwan should've subscribed for Triad's poker course 101


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxjnqSJLr0k

good meme

Negreanu agrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq9tikCvFTo

LOL WTF is going on with his neck? I'm assuming it's just a weird video thing but part of his neck seems to be a bit collapse in that video.


edit: Ah seems he's in front of a green screen. His fingers do the same thing when they are not in front of his body. They get all wonky.

Papi back on the podcast grind! looking forward to the Makeboifin pod

bajskorven pls

Will be LIVE at 3pm EST w/ makeboifin. He is a high stakes cash game regular on Pokerstars playing Texas Hold Em. He only started playing poker a few years ago and has been able to become one of the best players. We will talk more about how he did it, the state of online NL and more.

makeboifin and otb redbaron 4 tabling 25/50 today guess he listened to the podcast

uggh no! He might or might not have listened to the podcast but otb plays most late nights to early morning on stars. I hope the king doesn't care what makeboifin has to say about him!