Good response. Don't take the bait again.

This is what +rep_lol does for a hobby. He'll soon be off looking to harass some other random posters once he believes that you're not going to play along.

"I’m enjoying the fruits of my hard work. Nobody works harder than me inside the octagon, outside the octagon. I am a work horse. So, I am going to enjoy the benefits of this life. I am going to get myself a big mansion in Las Vegas, I’m going to get the soft top cars. I’m going to bring my whole team out. I’m going to spoil them and give them this life. Big steaks that size we’re eating every single night each.

We’re eating good, we’re living good. It’s human nature. Some people will sit and take positivity from that. They will look at that and take inspiration and it will inspire them to go and push for that. Others will shell up and critique it and be negative towards it, but one thing is for sure.

Those people will stay where they are. The people who take inspiration from it will rise up and also one day experience that life. So, this is human nature. Some go one way, some go the other way, but I am enjoying my money, my hard earned money that I have dedicated my life to." -Conor McGregor




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I feel for you young man. Whether you are wasting your time or not is something that you will have to decide for yourself. However, my advice is to reevaluate your goals when addressing the state of online poker. I don't play online but definitely see that there is way less outrage than there should be.

If your goal is to ultimately "change" what appears to be going on, you are likely spinning your wheels. If your goal is to "enlighten" and "speak truth to power" regardless of the outcome, you may again find some joy in engaging in the the fight. The biggest problem you face is there is too much money on the other side. No money to be made telling people to not burn their money.

Once upon a time I spent almost two decades fighting the forced drugging of children. Most of these children had behavior problems resulting from trauma or difficult home life. Most were on Medicaid meaning the drugs were paid for by U.S. Tax payers. When I advocated for these children at the legislature I was doing so during my "free" time and made no money doing so. The people advocating on the other side were being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to be there and argue with me.

The audience that were willing to listen to me were either victims or skeptics. I would guess that you are in the same boat.

You are certainly one of the best people that the poker world has produced in recent years. You have helped poker tremendously and have helped many people without even knowing it. I am a small winner at 1/2 and I know that we need more people in the game. You have brought people in.

I am thankful there are people like you out there and will follow you whatever you decide to do. Just keep in mind, you can't save people from themselves. Took me a long time to figure that out.

gmans been getting his ass bluffed off lately. seems like he's getting a bit run over by the aggression of the guys on the newest lineup at latb

wrt your last podcast - keep up it Big Joe. we enjoy your efforts and it's having a very positive effect on our community

I have a clothing site I'm working on will put it out in a few months, will ship a tank top of Your choice My friend and a few other 2+2 members as I love the people I have meet threw poker much love . . .

New Poker Life podcast in about 30 mins w/ the expert personal training/nutrition wizard Mike Vicanti.

Will be talking all about the Staples brothers prop bet victory, their new prop bet that Mike will be helping out with & all sorts of stuff.

How was joey railing Party Poker last night? I couldn't see the game at all

Is it invite only to be able to see usernames?

24 times in 24 hours? Good luck.

You should be able to see it here in the future




In the past, I've watched the game on the Party software and streamed it live. This time, I took the stream from Party twitch and streamed that live because I missed the first couple of hours.

Oh okay so Tricketts tables aren't anonymous but everything else is? Cool cool thanks!

Have a lot of pods to catch up to, but just wanted to mention I really liked the dominik nitsche podcast, which was super inspiring

Gman pod was good. Even though found myself disagreeing with some things, in general there was a lot of good advice, and the parts I disagreed with he at least either had good reasoning or it was easy to see why he felt that way.

High-priced life coaching is probably not necessary for the vast majority of people, but probably very valuable for high-performers who are better off just overpaying for advice/structure/motivation/efficiency related to saving time. I think a reasonable enough analogy is getting a personal trainer.

Really liked his mindset about being "peak stuck". I think it's an important reminder to everyone to remember to zoom out. Longer-term progress is a lot more important. Also, try to have goals in different areas of life and with different levels of difficulty. It's a great way to emotionally hedge (gman seems to really do this a lot with gym and going to festivals).

The major thing I disagreed with was that he said something along the lines of having to really love poker to win or win a lot. It helps but I can tell you firsthand that it isn't required. Food for thought:

I thought +rep made some astute observations. I also think GMan is a kind soul w remarkable insight about the complexity in these live games where pots go off MW and your opponents' deviations from solid play came in all shapes sizes; quite a puzzle to put together.

+rep gave full disclosure that his perception of others, as it relates to his comments about Gman, include some pre-conceived negative notions. I mean GMan started off the pod mentioning how 4 guys came up to him and "fanboy-ed him". Props to Gman for being able to use 'fanboy-ed' as a verb or adverb or whatever it's called. I would def do a shot w him.

I'm prob not the EDM fan these guys are, but in tangentially related and sad news, RIP Avicii @28 yrs old. When CJ is at his skinniest, he looks like Avicii in some photos. I guess dying @28 after going hard in the paint might be better than just slowly withering away until 75.

Would be interesting to get Sage Donkey's take on the subject

If you don't know what optimal play is in a given spot, how can you even evaluate that your opponents are deviating from optimal?

I didn't use the word 'optimal' bc if I had, then this is a question that has a correct answer. But I implied it, so I should anticipate the question would be asked.

Somewhere along the spectrum between optimal and x/r the nut low MW vs. opponents w a 100% wtsd, lies 'solid'.

If someone's grasp on the weird spots that don't come up much among 100bb 6m online wizards is reasonably close to optimal ('solid') - and he can deduce how his opponents are deviating from solid (whether thru 100hrs/wk off-table study of his opponents' tendencies, access to 30 hour days instead of the 24 hrs us mere mortals are blessed with, extraordinary recall and brainpower, or whatever) - then he can make that evaluation.

He spent more time articulating this aspect of the live/online dichotomy, w more depth than I've previously heard. Whether Gman actually knows what the solid play is in many of these weird live spots, I've no idea.

Puke, Dominik german guy said the same thing on his pod with joey, is this going to be the new thing smartass poker nerds say all the time? I think it's ok personally to use the terms "exploitative" or as the previous poster said, deviating from "solid play". It's pretty obvious these terms are used in a general way that has nothing to do with "GTO".

And if someone wanted to take it to next level smartass, no one will ever really know what is precisely "optimal" in above 20bb poker very often in a live setting no? Seems like it would quite the feat.

Going to have Barry G back on the podcast in about 90 mins

You can use a solver to calculate the MES vs so-called 'solid play'. If you think you can exploit better than the software, then I don't know what else to tell you.

Greenstein cast amazing again. So much fun as he shares Ivey stories, Chip Reese stories, Saylor Roberts stories, Amarillo Slim stories, Benny Binion stories, etc. It's like sitting with an old uncle as he tells stories from the past.

Papi, I suggest you edit that Benny Binion story into it's own short clip and put it up. That story was funny AF.

Nice podcast as always Joey.
Post interesting part for me was about FTP and about poker play. I would never imagine that limbo deposits were above $100 millions. Did that deposits were only from credit cards from USA? What I am thinking is that some players could/should deposited and purposely lost to other known players to them and then withdrawn free money. And if that was happening did those withdraws were canceling or something legally happened to players that did it?

Not sure why you quoted my post with this, you seem to have dodged my post completely. Just tone down aggro poker nerd BS, even though I know u and others like u won't. Funny how this has been a constant in the poker world since forever.

+1

how he's not been banned is beyond me.

Loved the Barry Greenstein Pods, watched 8 all hours.

Was trying to help the anti-intellectual/anti-solver crew, but judging by your reply, it isn't worth me replying further but I will try to sum up in one sentence.

"Solid play" means less than nothing to me because there are an infinite number of non"GTO" strategies that win (often very different ones in live poker), and so "exploiting solid play" is just a nonsense generalization.

Predictable you would go right to being "anti-intellectual", I was speaking solely to the smartass semantical nitpicking you're doing. The guy said Garret is good at "exploiting" "solid" players, I think 95% of this thread understands that those aren't perfect definitions of those terms, but we all understand what he meant, and that's all that matters. Well unless your the type to get your self-esteem boost for the day being condescending on the webs.