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05-21-2018 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshThyme
Much, much better than any cash game I ever watched on PokerGo. Dwan seemed like he was kind of running things, did a great job imo.
The cash games on pokergo with Dwan and Robl were pretty awesome.
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05-21-2018 , 01:40 PM
Did Dwan end up winner? what happened after he AA limp shoved vs Ivey's AK? Cliffs?
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05-21-2018 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
His banter is awesome. “Upstuck” and “felted” are his right?
Not sure. Haven't heard of upstuck, and felted must go back to ~2005.

I enjoyed his back and forth with durrr on HSP. "I Bet You" with Antonio was decent too. But my most quintessential fan memory of Laak was the cameo he had in Dutch Boyd's book, Poker Tilt. Dutch lamented losing Phil's friendship, and that he couldn't say anything mean about him if he tried.

Last edited by Tuma; 05-21-2018 at 02:19 PM.
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05-21-2018 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
What percentage do you guys think these American players have of themselves playing this?
probably 10% of themselves (so $100,000 of $1,000,000 buy in)

to anyone thinking they have 100% of themselves and being american....

just lol
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05-21-2018 , 02:14 PM
Have not watched short deck yet but.. Ivey in full deck was weak and half the time camera was on him he looked like he was the spectrum.
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05-21-2018 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
His banter is awesome. “Upstuck” and “felted” are his right?
You are correct, also POW, “felt” as a verb, Lodden Thinks and my Favorite Hopelatron

"The best way to describe a hopelatron would be to imagine the Middle Earth soldier guys from Lord of the Rings. Collectively very strong, but from individual to individual very weak. Nonetheless, their strength is that there are so many of them. You are sure to take a beating from a hopelatron from time to time. Even though they can nail you in a hand, they are lifetime losers at poker. It is the hopelatrons that keep the pros in the money. Thank the good lord for each and every one of them. Basically it is a term of affection for all the army of weak players that comprise the poker universe. -Phil Laak"
. . .
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05-21-2018 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorEd
I cannot see Koon having more than 25% of himself.

Ivey 100%
Dwan 75-100%
Patrick 75-100%

Kalas 100%
Kalas 100%..? Please explain that view...
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05-21-2018 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
Not sure. Haven't heard of upstuck, and felted must go back to ~2005.

I enjoyed his back and forth with durrr on HSP. "I Bet You" with Antonio was decent too. But my most quintessential fan memory of Laak was the cameo he had in Dutch Boyd's book, Poker Tilt. Dutch lamented losing Phil's friendship, and that he couldn't say anything mean about him if he tried.
Yeah I Bet You was a good show and Laak was certainly the most charismatic and entertaining of that duo.

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Originally Posted by D1G1TALFOX
You are correct, also POW, “felt” as a verb, Lodden Thinks and my Favorite Hopelatron

"The best way to describe a hopelatron would be to imagine the Middle Earth soldier guys from Lord of the Rings. Collectively very strong, but from individual to individual very weak. Nonetheless, their strength is that there are so many of them. You are sure to take a beating from a hopelatron from time to time. Even though they can nail you in a hand, they are lifetime losers at poker. It is the hopelatrons that keep the pros in the money. Thank the good lord for each and every one of them. Basically it is a term of affection for all the army of weak players that comprise the poker universe. -Phil Laak"
. . .
Omg this is hilarious. Definitely a term being added to my poker lexicon from now on. Hopealtron. Epic!

If Phil Laak isn't in the poker hall of fame in the next ten years, we burn it down!!! (figuratively of course)
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05-21-2018 , 04:42 PM
So how likely is it that short deck gets spread through out casino's and cardroom's within the US. What percentage chance and within how long?
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05-21-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Giltech
So how likely is it that short deck gets spread through out casino's and cardroom's within the US. What percentage chance and within how long?
I had the same thought. I'm not sure if it will spread out here actually. Maybe in a few places, but I would definitely like to be able to play some short deck poker. And if it's a game with higher variance that might keep the fun players in the game over a longer period of time. I hope it's an option in the sometime next 5 years.
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05-21-2018 , 05:10 PM
The problem with short deck is that flushes beat full houses. This could be challenging to the customer support online and floor managers live.

“Your stupid software/dealer gave the pot to a flush when I had a full house!! I want a refund!”
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05-21-2018 , 05:20 PM
+1 to wanting short deck!
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05-21-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
+1 to wanting short deck!


+2 It's such a great game so much less folding in all honesty a great breed between full deck and the Great game PLO, vary few people know all the math and so much gamble in the game makes it more appealing to everyone but the nits and (who wants them in a game) it's a Great game, on a new precedent of looking into the future of Poker . . .

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Originally Posted by robert_utk
The problem with short deck is that flushes beat full houses. This could be challenging to the customer support online and floor managers live.
:

“Your stupid software/dealer gave the pot to a flush when I had a full house!! I want a refund!”

Simple to solve just have a message pop up saying rules of this game may be different than what You may be used to click here for full description b4 anyone can play, any new change in Life is hard but necessary in the growth of Human evolution . . .
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05-21-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by In4apenny
Kalas 100%..? Please explain that view...
Chat on the table that he shipped it big on crypto. Said himself at the table that he bought BTC at $95.
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05-21-2018 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9NWz9xkbo
45:35
standard QTs call all in pre for short deck poker?
I don't know if it is standard but apparently, the guy holding the QTs, Rui Cao is one of the biggest winners overall in the short deck game so I guess he probably knows whats up. I don't know if he has done some math around J9 but he shoved it a bunch preflop.
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05-21-2018 , 10:43 PM
middling cards are the nuts. I think Dwan said something like 9 10 vs ak is literally a flip
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05-22-2018 , 01:20 AM
Below I will post some results from a short deck equity program I wrote some time ago. I am sure that everyone realizes that short deck equities run much closer together than in traditional (long deck) Hold-Em due to the "compactness" of the deck.

Note that in some short deck games three of a kind beats a straight, but the short deck game played on the Triton stream from Montenegro had a straight, as per usual, beating three of a kind. The only alteration in the hand rankings in the Triton short deck game was that a flush now beats a full house.

Hand 1Equity 1Hand 2Equity 2
As Kh
53.58%
Qd Jd
46.42%
As Kh
49.35%
Jd Td
50.65%
As Kh
49.89%
Td 9d
50.11%
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As Kh
56.26%
Qd Jc
43.74%
As Kh
51.74%
Jd Tc
48.26%
As Kh
52.29%
Td 9c
47.71%

While I think these equities are correct (that is, my equity program is correct), I have not independently verified them at this point. I am sure there are short-deck equity calculating programs available, but I have not seen any.
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05-22-2018 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
Chat on the table that he shipped it big on crypto. Said himself at the table that he bought BTC at $95.
anyone have a timestamp?
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05-22-2018 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
Below I will post some results from a short deck equity program I wrote some time ago. I am sure that everyone realizes that short deck equities run much closer together than in traditional (long deck) Hold-Em due to the "compactness" of the deck.

Note that in some short deck games three of a kind beats a straight, but the short deck game played on the Triton stream from Montenegro had a straight, as per usual, beating three of a kind. The only alteration in the hand rankings in the Triton short deck game was that a flush now beats a full house.

Hand 1Equity 1Hand 2Equity 2
As Kh
53.58%
Qd Jd
46.42%
As Kh
49.35%
Jd Td
50.65%
As Kh
49.89%
Td 9d
50.11%
.   
As Kh
56.26%
Qd Jc
43.74%
As Kh
51.74%
Jd Tc
48.26%
As Kh
52.29%
Td 9c
47.71%

While I think these equities are correct (that is, my equity program is correct), I have not independently verified them at this point. I am sure there are short-deck equity calculating programs available, but I have not seen any.


Have had differences in the past but, Thank You this is great local games are already playing, . . .
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05-22-2018 , 05:13 AM
I'm finishing up the $1M NLH show. It's sadly come to the point where I wanted them to vote-off or kick off Ivey...
Again, sadly, I was happy to see Patrick go as well.
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05-22-2018 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by baker2g
anyone have a timestamp?
https://youtu.be/rT5Mry2l0QQ?t=53m26s
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05-22-2018 , 10:28 AM
Obviously not playing with a full deck ITT
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05-22-2018 , 11:12 AM
so whats next? HU - 6max short deck plo anybody?
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05-22-2018 , 02:17 PM
BigO short deck, obv.
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05-23-2018 , 01:14 AM
Not enough cards in the deck for short-deck 6-max PLO when a card gets exposed and they have to deal another one, unless they don’t burn cards.
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