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07-01-2024 , 12:21 AM
Seiver seems to have locked up his case for Poker HOF, just like Rast did last year. Unlike Rast, I don’t think Seiver can be inducted until next year though.
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07-01-2024 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
Yeah, Seiver had a T7, so a 7 draw. Good read that he was ahead of both players. Harman's call predraw was questionable with ICM. Trela's overcall seems bad. Harman's tossing the T to draw to a 9 was correct, but fairly obvious.
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07-01-2024 , 12:40 AM
Seiver played much better than Trela did HU, as did Ivey against an unknown in the 10K 2-7 TD tournament.
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07-01-2024 , 01:14 AM
Came here to see a bunch of people talk about how bad Seiver is, how he's overrated, "fish on a heater," etc. Disappointed. But also not. Because every now and again, I get hope from this place.

Not sure if the WSOP Player of the Year leaderboard is updated to include the 2-7. It shows Ausmus at 2,999.12, Hunichen at 2,751.92 Seiver at 2,736.69 as of this post. In any case, this is a helluva race.
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07-01-2024 , 01:30 AM
PLO 25K is stacked with big names. Hope to see great final table after tomorrow.

Funny story from tournament. Last hand before latereg ends. Eelis opens and Nik Airball 3bets big enough to commit without looking at his cards.
Eelis folds to keep him at the table and Airball tilts telling that he wont be giving him action.
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07-01-2024 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Seiver played much better than Trela did HU, as did Ivey against an unknown in the 10K 2-7 TD tournament.
Not sure I would classify Danny Wong as an unknown. $5M in tournament cashes. Finished 2nd in the $10k 2-7 TD in 2021 and 15th in 2022.

Looks like he is quite strong in that variant.

Probably most recognizable from finishing 14th in the 2012 Main Event that Greg Merson won.
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07-01-2024 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Yeah, Seiver had a T7, so a 7 draw. Good read that he was ahead of both players. Harman's call predraw was questionable with ICM. Trela's overcall seems bad. Harman's tossing the T to draw to a 9 was correct, but fairly obvious.
My thoughts exactly.
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07-01-2024 , 02:06 AM
Really hope PokerGo decides to stream the 25K PLO, at the very least the final table. Ivey, Blom and Dwan making deep runs here.

It’s not on the schedule right now, instead we have the $1K ladies championship and the colossus listed.

If they stick to that schedule, they seem to really want to lose customers / not get more.
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07-01-2024 , 02:18 AM
I thought DeathDonkey's commentary for the 10K 2-7 NL stream was fabulous: very good on-the-fly analysis of what was going on; excellent separation between playing a hand in a vacuum versus seeing everyone's cards; and none of that awful "He is thinking that . . ." speculation.

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07-01-2024 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AcesAcademic
Really hope PokerGo decides to stream the 25K PLO, at the very least the final table. Ivey, Blom and Dwan making deep runs here.

It’s not on the schedule right now, instead we have the $1K ladies championship and the colossus listed.

If they stick to that schedule, they seem to really want to lose customers / not get more.
I hear you, but it's an 8-handed event and there are still 50 guys in it.

The odds of us getting a dream Ivey, Dwan, and Blom final table are about the same as us getting a bunch of obscure names.

It's a bit early to say this will be must-see TV.
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07-01-2024 , 02:55 AM
PLO final tables are far more fun that hold ‘em ones though. More flops and more nuance
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07-01-2024 , 03:11 AM
Just looked at the chip counts. Bunch of stone cold killers left in that 25k
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07-01-2024 , 03:27 AM
Yeah, I don't know what gets views, but I would want to see more of the final tables of the non-NLHE and higher buyin events. They televise a lot of $1500 or less NLHE events with nobodies at the final table. Would like to have seen the DC and bomb pot events, but those might not be technically feasible.
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07-01-2024 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Came here to see a bunch of people talk about how bad Seiver is, how he's overrated, "fish on a heater," etc. Disappointed. But also not. Because every now and again, I get hope from this place.

Not sure if the WSOP Player of the Year leaderboard is updated to include the 2-7. It shows Ausmus at 2,999.12, Hunichen at 2,751.92 Seiver at 2,736.69 as of this post. In any case, this is a helluva race.
It wasn't updated before, now Seiver has 3712.58 and Ausmus has 3368.48. Ivey who is in 4th is deep in the 25k plo
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07-01-2024 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Came here to see a bunch of people talk about how bad Seiver is, how he's overrated, "fish on a heater," etc. Disappointed. But also not. Because every now and again, I get hope from this place.

Not sure if the WSOP Player of the Year leaderboard is updated to include the 2-7. It shows Ausmus at 2,999.12, Hunichen at 2,751.92 Seiver at 2,736.69 as of this post. In any case, this is a helluva race.
Dude glaze harder holy ****, who is saying seiver is a fish on a heater? you have to much cob in your corn bud take a break.
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07-01-2024 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by timber63401
I take it Hellmuth is still dumb enough to put his buddy Matusow in all these 10Ks? No way he's got enough roll to be putting himself in them I wouldn't think.
Daddy Phil has very deep pockets.
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07-01-2024 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Yeah, Seiver had a T7, so a 7 draw. Good read that he was ahead of both players. Harman's call predraw was questionable with ICM. Trela's overcall seems bad. Harman's tossing the T to draw to a 9 was correct, but fairly obvious.
Ok I barely barely know the rules to this game but isn't over calling Sievers all in after Harmen calls to pat a 109 bad? Or is that a much better hand than I realize?
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07-01-2024 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Came here to see a bunch of people talk about how bad Seiver is, how he's overrated, "fish on a heater," etc. Disappointed. But also not. Because every now and again, I get hope from this place.
Wut???
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07-01-2024 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Ok I barely barely know the rules to this game but isn't over calling Sievers all in after Harmen calls to pat a 109 bad? Or is that a much better hand than I realize?
I said Trela's preflop call seems bad. I am not sure the difference between "bad" and "seems bad". I was kind of shocked by it. I wasn't sure Trela would pat, but calling to draw to a 9 would also be bad. Siever must have had a read on Trela to pat rather than draw to a 7.
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07-01-2024 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jinz3rd
Dude glaze harder holy ****, who is saying seiver is a fish on a heater? you have to much cob in your corn bud take a break.
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Originally Posted by Defarse
Wut???
Yep, you guys get it. I fully expected to see such posts because, well, this is 2+2. Every possible bad take seems to come up at some point here. That I didn't shows how universally respected he is. Not many players who can claim that.
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07-01-2024 , 03:09 PM
"preflop"???
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07-01-2024 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
"preflop"???
Hahaha yeah, it's funny how the terminology of flop games has seeped into other variants. When I first learned 2-7 triple draw, the preflop/flop/turn/river jargon described the four betting rounds. When it comes to single-draw games, everything before the draw just seems to be called preflop.

On the other hand, has anyone heard stud terms like "fourth street" around flop games anymore? That seemed to be around when I started playing during the 2000s boom. But either it disappeared, or it remained and became so ubiquitous that I just don't notice.
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07-01-2024 , 05:44 PM
So this might be of interest to a few. In Event 68, the $2500 NL event on Thursday I busted a player about 10-15 minutes after the dinner break. (Registration was scheduled to end at the start of the level). A few minutes later the other side of the table notices that a similar looking person was in the late registration line waiting to get his stack and seat assignment. They called the floor over but they said he wasn't wearing the same clothes we described. I personally didn't see the individual however I did see him later that night as we were approaching the money bubble and he was wearing a hoodie now versus just a t-shirt.

I obviously don't know at what point the WSOP closed registration, so it's possible it was still open. Obviously there's been some changes to the high roller events with a strict cut-off and if they're going to enforce it at that level then they really should make it consistent across the broad. There's also a few loopholes in the system as well but I'll pass on sharing those details here as not to encourage that behavior.

I personally didn't have a huge issue with it at the time, but I did start to have an issue with it as we hit 2am that night playing down to the money bubble. One or two less people in the field could have meant a slightly earlier end of the day which ultimately finished around 2:30am with a noon restart.

tldr; late registration could probably be improved a bit
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07-01-2024 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
"preflop"???
Preflop, predraw, whatever.
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07-01-2024 , 08:16 PM
Who is the commentator with Lon for this ladies event? She’s awful.
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