Yes. It was open last year.

FFS, can you really be this ignorant???

What are you disputing? I really don't understand what you're trying to get at with all of your extremely low effort posts in this thread.

What I am getting at is that there are rather more than a few thousand experienced limit Omaha/8 players in the world.

And for effort, it takes no effort at all to show that you have no idea of what you are talking about, because you provide all the evidence yourself.

Really? How many regular LO8 games are there going on in the US? I'm pretty sure I could count the number of casinos regularly spreading it nowadays on two hands. And it's certainly my impression that this form of poker is not popular outside the US (nor is basically any form of limit poker).

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

This is what I mean about low effort posts.

If there are thousands of regular LO8 players, where are they playing? Where are they discussing the game? What resources are they using to study and improve?

Maybe I really have just completely lost touch with the poker world. But 15 years ago, I could have answered all these questions, and now I really have no idea.

And yet the WSOP keeps setting attendance records at this game, and many other hard to find poker variants.

So, if you don’t know, no one else knows. A myopic view of your very, very, small world of knowledge.

Yep the one I Ft’ed

That’s why I’m asking! Please enlighten me.

FWIW, I just did a search on Bravo for any casino currently spreading O8 (or a mixed game including O8). Outside of South Point and Orleans in Vegas, I found a total of five -tables- of O8 across the rest of the country (scattered in one casino each in CA, FL, NY, and PA). I realize there may be casinos and games that don’t report on Bravo, but this was basically exactly in line with my expectation.

Give it a rest

Ok but what's your point?
If hardly anyone is good at it how much of a disadvantage can someone inexperienced be playing a form of limit poker with a bunch of people who also suck?

Somehow playing a big bet from of poker , a ton of which has been solved in a field against a ton of people who play all of the time and study a lot is a better bet for some guy who has basically never played poker?

Honestly I've played limit O8 less than ten times in my life and if I had a choice b/w playing a NL tournament (besides the main event)or an O8 tournament id play O8 even though I've played a lot of NL in my life. It sounds way more fun and I haven't played NL seriously in years so I'm well behind the curve.

I hear what you’re saying and I don’t understand why you’re getting so many hostile responses.

I don’t know if you’re right or wrong but for what it’s worth, what you’re saying seems logical to me but it seems you’re touching a nerve with others for some reason.

I think we are almost entirely in agreement, and I don’t really understand why people are reacting to my posts with such anger.

I think the WSOP is demonstrating that there is still a large potential market for games like O8 (or mixed games) among inexperienced players that the rest of the poker community is not taking advantage of.

Poker home games used to mainly be mixed games! Casual players enjoy these games both because they aren’t going to lose a ton of money quickly at them, and because they aren’t solved and played robotically.

But every poker room besides the WSOP seems to have no interest in cultivating this, because it’s much easier to just appeal to their existing NL base, and the pro NL players have no interest in cultivating them because it would make them less money at least in the short term.

The 2024 WSOP Thread Aka reading NickMPK's general musings on life. Just what we all want.

Damn, man, stop hijacking this thread lol

This thread sucks.

I just posted what I thought was an innocent and genuine question about the WSOP schedule and people just blew up at me for some reason…sorry.

K. So just look at WSOP schedule and dream then

As far as I can tell, short deck is one of the casualties. Nothing on the schedule. WSOP gave it a spin for a year or two. I guess they weren't thrilled with the response.

A dead fad gone the way of slap bracelets and pogs.

Been some discussion of the schedule in the events section. My main take is that I don't love the addition of a third starting flight in the Colossus, Monster Stack, or Milly Maker. They're taking tournaments that are already too much of a winner-takes-all lottery and turning them into an even bigger lottery. It will be awesome for the 9 people in each event who run hotter than the sun and reach the FT, but for most people it's min-cash or bust. You have to laugh at something like the Colossus where you can outlast 12,000 people and win $650 from your $400 buy-in. Seems like a massive waste of time. That's just my opinion though and if WSOP is leaning into the mega field events then they must feel confident that this is what their customers want. I've soured on that type of stuff and will be avoiding those events this year, but that's just one man's opinion.

About PLO8?

I agree with all of this except I think slap bracelets will be making a resurgence.

I think these events appeal to recs who want a lot of "play" for their money and/or want some sort of Main Event experience but can't or won't play the Main, plus some pros who are willing to go through that soul-draining experience for the benefit of playing with all those recs. I'm too lazy to check to compare the rake, but I'd bet that these tournaments blow all the $1,500+ events out of the water on profitability, even accounting for the extra time they take to finish.

The added day ones allowing for up to 6 buyins heavily favor pros who have no issue firing max bullets. Monster stack last year had max 2 bullets.

Literally all of these things have been made up by people WHO WANT TO GAMBLE, mostly recreationals/fun players. The people complaining are almost exclusively "aspiring pros" who dont like to gamble and would like to stick to their charts and nitty ranges.

Certain job players (as opposed to fun players) seem to dislike the idea that fun players create game modes that force the job players out of their comfort zone.