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06-15-2024 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
So sick. lol



https://x.com/PokerGO/status/1801831373172576581
It seems like YoViral’s last raise in this hand was to an illegal size. If they other bets reported are correct, shouldn’t this min raise here be to 10.65M, not 10M.? Was this corrected in the actual hand?
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06-15-2024 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
It seems like YoViral’s last raise in this hand was to an illegal size. If they other bets reported are correct, shouldn’t this min raise here be to 10.65M, not 10M.? Was this corrected in the actual hand?
Yeah, he put out more chips. I thought he called at first.

What an insane leveling war. GTnO
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06-15-2024 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BSumner
So you literally did what I said you would do.
You changed the topic to numerous other metrics to avoid that Hellmuth at the WSOP is the absolute best.

Why is it so many people just cant get themselves to say "yep Hellmuth is the WSOP GOAT" and just stop it at that?

You went with changing the timeline for their bracelets
You then went with a comment about their age
Then brought in WPT
Then talked about high stakes cash
and finally said he is not a "top player overall"

It's just so predictable.
You can torture the data to make it say whatever you want
But no matter how you slice it, 28 1st and 2nds and a 49% rate of going from the final table to heads up?

There is no comparison.
And that's okay.
How many more tournaments do you think Hellmuth has played than Ivey?
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06-15-2024 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WPNdonk
How many more tournaments do you think Hellmuth has played than Ivey?
Ivey didn't start until 2000. He was probably playing high stakes cash games a lot of the time during the Series. If you are playing $2K/4K mixed or whatever, a $10K buyin isn't very much. Doubt Ivey played all the $1.5K buyins Hellmuth did.
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06-15-2024 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by WPNdonk
How many more tournaments do you think Hellmuth has played than Ivey?
I would think easily, double.
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06-15-2024 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
So sick. lol



https://x.com/PokerGO/status/1801831373172576581
I have no shot this year if that's what it takes.
Bet it sure
Raise it possibly but rare....

But for it to get to a 5 bet shove .....just not in my arsenal.

Amazing commitment to a hand for a bracelet

Wow
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06-15-2024 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BSumner
"just a tournament player" is like saying "Brady was just an NFL quarterback"

The kneejerk reflex of some to just instinctively try to cut down Hellmuth's accomplishments is laughable.

In addition to his 17 bracelets, do you know how many runner-ups he has?
Look it up, I dare ya

Yes, he is borderline impossible to like, but his accomplishments at the WSOP are so far and away ahead of others it's laughable

There was a time 10 years ago it looked like Ivey was going to leave Hellmuth in the dust in WSOP bracelets
But you know what? Ivey didnt.
For whatever reason, boredom, burnout, legal troubles, no matter the reason, Ivey didnt
And that ability of Phil to keep coming back for more has to count for something.,

In the end, he has 17 and the next closest is 11.
Just let it go,
Hellmuth is the greatest WSOP player of all time and it's not even close

And the answer is 11
11 runner ups

he has 17 wins and 11 runner ups in 57 final tables
That means when he gets to a final table he has a 28/57 chance of getting heads up
Literally 49.1%
Please show me someone else with that ratio and 30+ final tables
(we need a decent sample size and about half of Phil's total seems fair)
Hellmuth is a lot of things, and a Finisher is one of them.

I wonder who is second highest for 1st and 2nds combined

20 of his 57 final tables are in NON-Hold-Em events

Just live with it, Hellmuth is the WSOP GOAT and the next best is a distant 2nd

Now commence with the endless claims of things he is not the best at
and I'll say, "sure, he seems to suck at cash games, but my point still stands, he is the WSOP GOAT"

I grew up a Duke fan from long before it was cool, like mid 80s
and my buddies would say, "see, they suck in the NBA" and I'd be like, "doesnt bother me, they aint wearing the Duke blue anymore"
They still destroyed everyone in college which is what I care about.

So just accept it, at the WSOP Hellmuth reigns supreme, and in other avenues of poker, not so much,
but I have yet to see anyone make the claim outside of the WSOP, so who and what are you really refuting
Completely agree.
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06-15-2024 , 09:00 AM
So many in this site need to learn how to quote. Edit out what’s irrelevant, stop being so lazy and quoting entire slabs of text.
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Originally Posted by BSumner
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Originally Posted by BSumner
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Hellmuth is almost 13 years older than Ivey, ever factored that in?

And Hellmuth is a **** human, so **** him.
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06-15-2024 , 09:21 AM
Ivey is currently in 12th in $50,000 8-handed NLH
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06-15-2024 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by philurivey
Ivey is currently in 12th in $50,000 8-handed NLH
Yeah, but awfully early. Still in late registration.
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06-15-2024 , 10:59 AM
Dylan Weisman currently 3rd in chips in the 10k Big O. David Benyamine is in 6th. 19 left.

Ivey 12th in the 50k. Isildur 13th (not sure if +EV to give him 50k to play this but hey). 68/134 remain but late reg still open today.

Scott Seiver 2nd in chips after day 1 in 1.5k Razz

Today they run a 1.5k DBBP PLO/NL mix lol. Most fun tourney on schedule? Lowest hands/hr event for sure? O/U on number of people who bust level 1 would be a thing too I think
edit: nvm it's not ALL dbbp lol, just every 8 hands. Sad. All DBBP would be fun ICM later I think.

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The Double Board Bomb Pots occur on the first hand of every game change, which takes place every eight hands. All players must ante for the bomb pot. A separate button will be used, and move one position every eight hands to determine who has the button for each bomb pot. The main button will freeze during the bomb pot and resume after the bomb pot is complete. https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...oard-bomb-pot/
edit: to pwnsall: I don't know calvin anderson at all so whatyagondo. 80% of some of these fields are someone noteable to some.

Last edited by Loctus; 06-15-2024 at 11:08 AM.
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06-15-2024 , 11:00 AM
Not including Cal in the updates
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06-15-2024 , 11:16 AM
I think we can all agree that Hellmuth is the Greatest Of All Time, Since Ever (GOATSE).

Last edited by AlanBostick; 06-15-2024 at 11:18 AM. Reason: For your sanity's sake, do not Google it
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06-15-2024 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
I think we can all agree that Hellmuth is the Greatest Of All Time, Since Ever (GOATSE).
Spoiler:
Thankfully this came up instead of the actual image

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06-15-2024 , 01:05 PM
I never understand why so many people try to register an hour or less before a big tournament starts. Why wouldn't you just register the night before or any time before other than then.

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06-15-2024 , 01:10 PM
Now it looks like they delayed the start by 30 minutes.
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06-15-2024 , 02:35 PM
I guess soft table draws aren't really a thing in a $50k, but how would you like to wake up and know you have to play this on day 2?

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06-15-2024 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I guess soft table draws aren't really a thing in a $50k, but how would you like to wake up and know you have to play this on day 2?

All in blind every hand
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06-15-2024 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Dylan Weisman currently 3rd in chips in the 10k Big O. David Benyamine is in 6th. 19 left.

Ivey 12th in the 50k. Isildur 13th (not sure if +EV to give him 50k to play this but hey). 68/134 remain but late reg still open today.

Scott Seiver 2nd in chips after day 1 in 1.5k Razz

Today they run a 1.5k DBBP PLO/NL mix lol. Most fun tourney on schedule? Lowest hands/hr event for sure? O/U on number of people who bust level 1 would be a thing too I think
edit: nvm it's not ALL dbbp lol, just every 8 hands. Sad. All DBBP would be fun ICM later I think.



edit: to pwnsall: I don't know calvin anderson at all so whatyagondo. 80% of some of these fields are someone noteable to some.
Not sure if +EV to buy Isildur in but if I had 50k to spare and wanted someone fun to rail I would buy him in
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06-15-2024 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I never understand why so many people try to register an hour or less before a big tournament starts. Why wouldn't you just register the night before or any time before other than then.

People in general are idiots. People in Vegas are extremely stupid overall.
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06-15-2024 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Not sure if +EV to buy Isildur in but if I had 50k to spare and wanted someone fun to rail I would buy him in
It's funny what time has done because he's probably +EV in any field in the WSOP other than the biggest buyin NL events (and maybe PLO highrollers?). Ironic after taking $6 million off of durrrr in that game..
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06-15-2024 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAF99
All in blind every hand
Just get it in against Brewer and you're pretty much guaranteed to win.
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06-15-2024 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I never understand why so many people try to register an hour or less before a big tournament starts. Why wouldn't you just register the night before or any time before other than then.
Out of curiosity, what does the line look like if the computers are working?

I'm the type who buys his ticket for anything well in advance, just so I don't have to worry about it. But the need to do so would vary greatly from event to event. Taylor Swift's Eras Tour? You could attempt to buy tickets 30 seconds after they become available and come up empty. Oakland A's home game? I wouldn't be surprised if you could show up five minutes before first pitch and they just let you in for free on the promise to buy something at the concession stand.

As we like to say in poker... it depends.
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06-15-2024 , 07:36 PM
On to the next one, I will catch that Hellmuth soon enough!
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06-16-2024 , 04:23 AM
Isildur 1st/13 remaining in 50k going into day 3 (has ran like god preflop tbh, judging by pokernews updates through the day). Bruce Buffer 13/13

106k locked up, 2 mega up top
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