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How do you all feel about the skill level in a $1,500? I've heard your table draw in wsop events can be key but I'm a winning 2-5nl player and feel more confident with deeper stacks so thought that might be my best event for the lower buy in?

Problem is, I probably wouldn't rebuy if busted unless it was a total BS Hand the first hour in and said **** it. Can I pay the night before a day C and not worry about it being full?

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05-22-2024 , 02:23 AM

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DogFace

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Originally Posted by VincentVega

The Monster Stack and Milly Maker are great options. I've played the Monster twice. Table draw is random and you can get unlucky, but a rough guess would be 1-2 random pro types and then mostly tourists and rec players. I don't think it's anything to be scared of if you're beating 2/5.

As with all tournaments, the sledding will get tougher as you get deeper. Day two starting table is likely to have at least a couple tough players.

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05-22-2024 , 02:36 AM

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RedOak

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Originally Posted by TheFly

I actually like this change, why not be able to double your money with a min-cash?

Interesting though, the Main Event is still hard coded at $15K min cash, so no change for the Main Event payout structure, evidently.

Main event stays at 15k mincash since anything over 5k net wins triggers a w2-g and too much paperwork to fill out on the main event bubble as cashouts happen fast at that point.

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05-22-2024 , 03:20 AM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by NickMPK

Not a fan of this change, but I’ve always been part of what is clearly a minority who believe the mincash should be less than the buy-in (but start the mincash at like 25% of the field).

Ewww

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05-22-2024 , 04:06 AM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by borg23

Ewww

Ya sounds weird but I’m for anything that prevents excessive tanking and seems like the bubble would move a good bit faster at 25% pay than 10-15.

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05-22-2024 , 07:03 AM

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newguyhere

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Why not just bring in shot clocks when we're x players away from the bubble?

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05-22-2024 , 07:33 AM

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pwnsall

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Logistics and maybe doesn't help as much as people think

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05-22-2024 , 04:00 PM

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txdome

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More people may take more time using their allowed shot clot time than they normally would.

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05-22-2024 , 04:10 PM

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Noles1724

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Originally Posted by DogFace

WSOP does a $600 with 40/60. One of the best events on the schedule every year.

Have to look closely because some of their $600s are 30 min levels aka glorified one day tournaments.

Played the $600 deep stack last year and enjoyed the 40/60.. might have to do with the fact that I finished 10th.

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05-22-2024 , 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Noles1724

Played the $600 deep stack last year and enjoyed the 40/60.. might have to do with the fact that I finished 10th.

Unofficial final table?

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05-22-2024 , 06:04 PM

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RedOak

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

Ya sounds weird but I’m for anything that prevents excessive tanking and seems like the bubble would move a good bit faster at 25% pay than 10-15.

Round for round instead of hand for hand might work better. With say 4 from bubble you deal 9 more hands at all tables. When complete if 6 bust out then those 6 will split payouts for 2 people. This way there is no need to stall as all tables have to play 9 hands.

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05-22-2024 , 06:08 PM

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ILostMyAccount

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Originally Posted by VincentVega

Last time I was in town for the WSOP I played a mix of deepstacks, STTs, and smaller events at other casinos, along with a $1500. The $1500 was by far my softest starting table all week. It's very much luck of the draw especially in the bigger fields, but as others have said, it's likely to get progressively tougher the further you go. By comparison the table I was moved to in the last part of the evening was probably the toughest I played on all week, with three big-stacked euros to my left, including eventual winner Barney Boatman.

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05-22-2024 , 06:36 PM

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the difference between tables in sub 3k/above 3k at the wsop is like another world. you'll prob be the best player at most tables in a 1.5k

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05-22-2024 , 07:50 PM

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timber63401

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I'm so gutted that I wont make it out this year. Its hurts man, it hurts.

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05-22-2024 , 08:00 PM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by txdome

More people may take more time using their allowed shot clot time than they normally would.

Bc shot clocks are still way too long but a step in the right direction.

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05-22-2024 , 08:25 PM

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I don't know what they do lately at WSOP but playing cash at Venetian and I heard them make the Tournament announcement on shot clock, for day 2 only not day 1, and its 20 seconds pre flop and 30 seconds post flop and I think you get like 5 or 6 extension chips.

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05-22-2024 , 11:47 PM

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NickMPK

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Originally Posted by prizminferno

the difference between tables in sub 3k/above 3k at the wsop is like another world. you'll prob be the best player at most tables in a 1.5k

I’m not sure if 3k is the right threshold here. I played the 2.5k Omaha 8/Stud 8 event a few times, and always thought my starting tables at that event were orders or magnitude tougher than anything I ever saw in the 1.5k Omaha 8 events.

(I vividly recall sitting with a Main Event runner-up to my immediate left in the 2.5k OE, and when he busted he was immediately replaced by -another- Main Event runner-up!)

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05-23-2024 , 12:24 AM

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lv2plapkr

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The 2.5k OE is my fav. WSOP event.

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05-23-2024 , 02:12 AM

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NickMPK

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Originally Posted by lv2plapkr

The 2.5k OE is my fav. WSOP event.

Oh I love the structure of the event and wish there were more events like this. Maybe I just got unlucky draws, but it’s also the only WSOP event where I immediately felt outclassed both times I played it. (I’ve never played a 5k or higher FWIW.)

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05-23-2024 , 02:40 AM

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PaxiFixi

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Originally Posted by RedOak

I actually really like this idea

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05-23-2024 , 04:16 AM

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metza

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Originally Posted by PaxiFixi

I actually really like this idea

Round for round sounds nice in theory but *******s would still stall so that they could try to get info from other tables

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05-23-2024 , 09:15 AM

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Noles1724

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Originally Posted by TheFly

Unofficial final table?

yup.. and I completely punted.

had chips (quantity) the whole day 3.. at FT had chips but they were all big denomination(quality not quantity), so I think mentally I didn't realize that I had 20ish bbs.. shoved when I didn't need to.

open 77 from UTG, cutoff raised, I jammed, he called with JJ

funny thing is that I played it so bad, that JJ probably should have thought longer than 2 secs before calling.. UTG open then 4b jam.. I'm not loving it if I'm sitting with JJ in that spot.

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05-23-2024 , 12:47 PM

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Black Aces 518

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Don't see much universe where 3b/fold JJ for 20bb eff is a thing.

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05-23-2024 , 12:56 PM

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rjen47

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Originally Posted by TheFly

Maybe when only 10% of field got paid.

Exactly right.

Main Event min cash has been $15k since 2015.

From 2007 to 2014 it ranged from $18,406 to $21,365.

Before then it was pretty random, with a low of $7,070 in 1992 and a high of $25,000 in 1998.

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05-23-2024 , 01:56 PM

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DMoogle

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Originally Posted by rjen47

Before then it was pretty random, with a low of $7,070 in 1992 and a high of $25,000 in 1998.

They used to have payouts lower than the entry fee? Hahahaha that's hilarious.

Flatter payout structure is better for volatility, right? So if they're keeping the same 15% field payout but paying more to the lower end, then that's a good thing all else equal.

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