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Yesterday , 06:20 PM
One way to look at it is that if you late reg, you are getting an overlay from the dead money in the prize pool from the people who have already busted out.
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Yesterday , 06:24 PM
Blom is last in the 250K, down to 1/3 of his starting stack. No one has busted out.

I saw a woman, Kathy Lehne. Looked her up and she has $380m, started her own company. So apparently some amateur deadish money in it.
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Yesterday , 06:30 PM
Kathy isn't a fish btw.
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Yesterday , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Swann99
I know what you mean here, but I think you're phrasing it strangely. You can't have an ICM "advantage" over other players from different stages in the tournament.

I think what you mean is that the 10-20bbs you get at max late reg are worth more than a full stack at the start of the tournament in terms of ICM. This is not an "icm advantage over registering at the start" necessarily, for example if you register at the start and are capable of accumulating 30bbs by max late reg level.

The EV of a 10-15bbs stack at max late reg is certainly worth more EV than a starting stack in level 1.
There's an inherent advantage in late regging because people have already busted in the earlier levels. https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/i...swer-40229.htm

As for maxing ROI, I'm not sure if the advantage gained is more than the value you get from players being so bad in the beginning when deep, but it's almost certainly better from an hourly rate perspective to max late reg.
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Yesterday , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DMoogle
There's an inherent advantage in late regging because people have already busted in the earlier levels. https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/i...swer-40229.htm

As for maxing ROI, I'm not sure if the advantage gained is more than the value you get from players being so bad in the beginning when deep, but it's almost certainly better from an hourly rate perspective to max late reg.
I think we agree in concept. Maybe it's just a matter of terminology or definitions, but I would not use the word "advantage" or the phrase "advantage over other players." ICM has nothing to do with gaining or measuring an "advantage" over other players. It's a measure of the value of your stack at a certain point in the tournament.

As the PokerNews article you linked says: "Late registration doesn’t give you an edge against other players, but it does give you an ICM boost, in other words your stack would be worth more in real money terms right away if you joined the tournament late."

You're just entering with a stack that has a lot of value, even though it is short. This does not give you an advantage over players that registered level 1, and it is not necessarily more advantageous than registering level 1. (Example, if I reg level 1, I can have a 30-40bb stack by the start of the max late reg entry level, you cannot.) It just means that you are entering the tournament with a short but valuable stack. Your short stack is worth as much as any other 10-15bb stack (no matter when they entered) and it is worth less than any larger stack (no matter when they entered). Obviously the stack is worth more than busted stacks, but ICM has nothing to do with gaining an advantage.

It's about value not advantage, which are not the same thing. It's not a comparison of the value of stacks based on when they entered, it's a measure of the value of your stack at the moment you enter. But this does not give you an advantage over other players remaining in the tournament in any way.
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Yesterday , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixedgamelover
I hope Viktor has 100% of himself and only came to Vegas with a few k for fun and is now just parlaying his way to the top like in the old days.

1.5k > 41k in DC
10k > 28k in PLO8
50k > 952k in 50kNL
100k > At least 512k now in 100kNL

Love to see it.
i have heard similar stories here that this is near what is true , heard a couple stories at the tables he showed up with 25k and is running it up. couple others claim he has a backer. its fun to speculate either way..... only he really knows.















also Huni is a luckbox
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Yesterday , 09:02 PM
Another "Final Table" being shown but starting with 5 left. Thats only around half the final table Pokergo.
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Yesterday , 09:02 PM
Whos the scottish commentator?

Edit : switched it off for HCL instead. **** this

Last edited by SootedPowa; Yesterday at 09:11 PM. Reason: He is annoying me already ffs
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Today , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Swann99
You're just entering with a stack that has a lot of value, even though it is short. This does not give you an advantage over players that registered level 1, and it is not necessarily more advantageous than registering level 1.
You do know that a short stack has an inherent advantage over bigger stacks, right?
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Today , 11:20 AM
Yea pokernews and Swann99 are wrong here heh. Shortstacks have an inherent and mechanical advantage over tables with bigger stacks due to how it skews preflop ranges and also can over-realize equity.. This is even entirely without the additional ICM considerations.
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Today , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
You do know that a short stack has an inherent advantage over bigger stacks, right?
In an individual hand yes but not for the tournament.
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