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11-10-2021 , 01:53 AM
Well you said this Event, like the Main Event. Are you talking all WSOP cashes? Still there is for sure top players crushing whatever his ROI is for all WSOP events I am sure.
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11-10-2021 , 01:57 AM
Doyle may be the greatest poker player of all time. But there are many "GTO" players who have a higher ROI than Doyle's ROI at the WSOP and for the Main Event in particular.
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11-10-2021 , 02:12 AM
I'm talking about his expected ROI parisron, rather than his historical ROI. We can look at all of his poker achievements when estimating his edge in the WSOP Main Event. IMO the only GTO players that come close to Doyle's expected ROI are players who are not only GTO players but also extremely talented exploitative players.
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11-10-2021 , 02:18 AM
technically you may be right, from % point of view, but ain't the same level.

but dollar per dollar to level things you need to add inflation.

compared with todays dollar he played a tournament buy in of 43.5k$, which is comparable with todays HRs.

i am sure that in 30+ years the new generation will think and say the same about todays GTO stars. it's called evolution. we should acknowledge their accomplishments and not compare their results with todays games, it's just not fair.
and this goes in any sport.
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11-10-2021 , 02:48 AM
Yep. People disrespecting Doyle because of era are just as cringe as soccer fanboys who try to dismiss Pele.
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11-10-2021 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger
Yep. People disrespecting Doyle because of era are just as cringe as soccer fanboys who try to dismiss Pele.
Adam Ottavino would strike out Babe Ruth 1000/1000 times
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11-10-2021 , 03:25 AM
Adam who??


Ho gets a double
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11-10-2021 , 06:00 AM
WSOP entrants numbers (so far).
All numbers gathered from pokernews.

1A: 523
1B: 845
1C: 600
1D: 2550
1E: 797
1F: 1045
2abd: 145

Total: 6505 entrants so far.

More day 2cef late entrants will increase the final entrants number.
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11-10-2021 , 08:27 AM
I really believe people criticizing doyles play have never played in a 10+ hour a day multi day tournament. Doyle is exhausted and im surprised he even made it to day two. He could literally shove with any 2 cards every hand and I wouldnt criticize him.
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11-10-2021 , 08:35 AM
I feel like he was down to go as far as he could until the T9c hand that we didn’t get to see finish out. He would’ve had a nice stack at any point during that hand. Once that was lost, seems like he didn’t care anymore. Don’t blame him either.
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11-10-2021 , 10:00 AM
someone please link these talked about hands.
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11-10-2021 , 11:25 AM
I don't know how to link them since they're only on PokerGo's website at the moment.
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11-10-2021 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger
Yep. People disrespecting Doyle because of era are just as cringe as soccer fanboys who try to dismiss Pele.
Well not really because anyone who knows anything about football doesn't call it "soccer" and Pele would get ruined in the modern game.

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End of the day yesterday I made a few mistakes that in hindsight I know were mistakes. I can't imagine being 88 and trying to stay at the top of my game.
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11-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
I really believe people criticizing doyles play have never played in a 10+ hour a day multi day tournament. Doyle is exhausted
I've played a few 10 hour+ poker tourney days, it's heaven. I've also taught at high school and worked in customer service. Now those things are exhausting!

Doyle is late eighties so anything is tiring, but in general terms, poker isn't tiring. It's a fun game that gives you a buzz.
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11-10-2021 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SereneTuna
I've played a few 10 hour+ poker tourney days, it's heaven. I've also taught at high school and worked in customer service. Now those things are exhausting!

Doyle is late eighties so anything is tiring, but in general terms, poker isn't tiring. It's a fun game that gives you a buzz.

I dont want to come off as judgemental.

But if you are properly thinking thru your decisions and paying attention to the table when you arent in a hand, then 10 hrs of poker is very tiring. Your brain burns a ton of calories when it is engaged fully. I would be curious to know how many calories on average the top players burn during a day of high roller action. I know they did a study on top chess players from the Candidates tournament (determines who challenges for the World title), and the average player burned like 4k calories during a single game of classical chess.

Its a lot easier when you are scrolling or mindlessly watching something on your phone and arent fully engaged in the game, like most players are, particularly the recs.
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11-10-2021 , 04:18 PM
yeah, there's definitely a difference between just playing poker and concentrating on every aspect of the game during every hand. i'm guessing SereneTuna and the likes don't really engage in much spectating whilst not in a hand. observing every action is always very tiring during long sessions and oftentimes extremely ****ing boring.
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11-10-2021 , 05:06 PM
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11-10-2021 , 05:14 PM
Thank you Ali. Thank you Nick. I saw Jamie Gold earlier and he said you were Top Top. I'd agree.

p.s. Lol on the NFT troll.
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11-10-2021 , 05:16 PM
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11-10-2021 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
yeah, there's definitely a difference between just playing poker and concentrating on every aspect of the game during every hand. i'm guessing SereneTuna and the likes don't really engage in much spectating whilst not in a hand. observing every action is always very tiring during long sessions and oftentimes extremely ****ing boring.
Oh please. Stop trying to make poker sound like a real job.
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11-10-2021 , 06:15 PM
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11-10-2021 , 06:25 PM
Idiots from Northern Europe beware.
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11-10-2021 , 06:32 PM
Wow, I was happy there for a moment (Ali & Nick commentating on stream) but now I am sad (Hellmuth on feature table).

Conflicted.
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11-10-2021 , 06:33 PM
When does it start? 2 hours from now according to my pokergo?
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11-10-2021 , 06:36 PM
Yes
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