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11-08-2021 , 08:18 PM

#126

Crich

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How come the stream hasn't started yet of the tournament is already on?

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11-08-2021 , 08:20 PM

#127

ligastar

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Originally Posted by Crich

How come the stream hasn't started yet of the tournament is already on?

stream starts in 10 mins (on a 30 minute delay).

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11-08-2021 , 08:22 PM

#128

Crich

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Originally Posted by ligastar

stream starts in 10 mins (on a 30 minute delay).

On poker go it says 2 hours.

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11-08-2021 , 08:22 PM

#129

Utah_CUtiger

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Originally Posted by DogFace

There's so much play in the early levels of these events that I don't see much value in going buck wild with any hand pre-flop except AA. If you rate yourself as having a big post-flop edge, it seems like you'd be incentivized to keep pots small and navigate post-flop. That could even apply to AA.

He understands this. I remember in his deep run in 2015, he was basically circumventing the Jamie Gold rule and telling people what he had. "You know what they call me, Mister Cold Four Bet." In other words, "I'm not bluffing. I have a huge hand. Please just fold." I think he rated his edge as being so big that he never wanted to gamble, and was just happy to win pre-flop to reduce any possibility of a suckout. Maybe he got away from that today, or just lost composure. Maybe it was a player-specific spot.

I'm not one of those rabid DN haters, but one thing I noticed is that he almost exclusively plays mixed games in pro-heavy fields during the WSOP. Then you turn around and try to pop right into a large field NLHE donk fest. It may not be ideal preparation. The Main seems to be a very specific type of tournament that favors people who excel at navigating these rec-heavy fields, and that's honestly not a space that DN seems to have splashed around in much lately. His senses may be calibrated to a different play style.

I think this is good analysis. He doesn't really play large field NLH tournaments any more where he would come across more rec and semi-pro players. He hasn't cashed in the main event since that 2015 run and IIRC, hasn't really come close, going out on other Day 1 or Day 2 in the past 5 attempts.

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11-08-2021 , 08:27 PM

#130

ligastar

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Originally Posted by Crich

On poker go it says 2 hours.

hmm. it's showing in 2 mins for me right now.

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11-08-2021 , 08:30 PM

#131

iwasbanned

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I'm glad the guy took his time calling Kid Poker's All-In.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBggLQzJBfA

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11-08-2021 , 08:31 PM

#132

ligastar

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ughh. Lon M. on the mic. the nut low.

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11-08-2021 , 08:36 PM

#133

SereneTuna

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I feel like Lon has never really liked poker and just kind of fell into being the main commentator for it forever.

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11-08-2021 , 08:38 PM

#134

Crich

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Anyone else not able to watch on Poker Go yet?

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11-08-2021 , 08:38 PM

#135

parisron

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Lon plays poker and I think he even won a tournament a few years ago.

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11-08-2021 , 08:41 PM

#136

Utah_CUtiger

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This announcing crew is just so much worse than Nick and Ali. It really does bring down the enjoyment.

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11-08-2021 , 08:42 PM

#137

kep

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Lon and Norm should just do the commentary on the edited shows. They are great at that.

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11-08-2021 , 08:49 PM

#138

ligastar

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Originally Posted by Crich

Anyone else not able to watch on Poker Go yet?

stream started on time for me and is running fine.

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Originally Posted by parisron

Lon plays poker and I think he even won a tournament a few years ago.

still doesn't know how to properly call the action. miss reading the board and outs, making comments that don't even jive with the narrative and play of a hand, etc., etc.

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Originally Posted by kep

Lon and Norm should just do the commentary on the edited shows. They are great at that.

qft

edit: and my stream just went down.

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11-08-2021 , 08:51 PM

#139

kep

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And now the stream is broken.

They got it working again faster than usual. Progress.

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11-08-2021 , 08:53 PM

#140

POGcrazy94

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my man JOHN HESP being mentioned

shame he believes in all these nutty conspiracy theories now

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11-08-2021 , 09:01 PM

#141

parisron

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Time for the nightly streaming F up.

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11-08-2021 , 09:37 PM

#142

PTLou

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Originally Posted by kep

Lon and Norm should just do the commentary on the edited shows. They are great at that.

100%

I'm Beating a dead horse but wow Ali and Nick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than tonight. They are hilarious together and had me LOLing so may times. Plus exact right level of calling action and great analysis.

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11-08-2021 , 10:20 PM

#143

iwasbanned

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I take it Robert Mizrachi is throwing a shot at/about DNegs going broke?

https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...ips.460796.htm

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11-08-2021 , 10:53 PM

#144

Jkpoker10

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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

This announcing crew is just so much worse than Nick and Ali. It really does bring down the enjoyment.

Agree with this. I love hearing nick schulman break down hands. He does a great job.

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11-08-2021 , 11:07 PM

#145

Utah_CUtiger

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Yes. Schulman and Ali are legit funny and have great comedic timing and chemistry when together. I laughed out loud a few times last night, with Schulman grilling the length of time the chip count graphic was up and then the sea life watch party discussion with Ali.

Yet even when they go on tangents they still seem tethered to the action and can snap back into a hand analysis at any time. When Lon/Norm/Jamie go on tangents they seem completely detached from the poker and get discombobulated when trying to go back to the table action.

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11-09-2021 , 02:18 AM

#146

DogFace

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The Night Shift is the nut-nut team and I'm glad to see them back in the booth for the WSOP after that little hubbub a couple years ago where it seemed like ESPN put Nick on ice.

I actually really enjoy Lon and Norm on pre-recorded commentary, but I hope Ali and Nick inherit the main job eventually.

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11-09-2021 , 05:00 AM

#147

iwasbanned

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WSOP entrants numbers (so far).
All numbers gathered from pokernews.

1A: 523
1B: 845
1C: 600
1D: 2550
1E: 797
Total: 5315 entrants so far.

Still have more entrants to come from day 1F, plus the day 2 late entrants.

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11-09-2021 , 05:26 AM

#148

Tommy_Tomich969

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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

Absolutely this. WTF were Lon and Norm even doing talking about TV shows from 40 years ago constantly today? They don't even bother to call hands half the time. It's honestly embarrassing how much worst they are than Nick and Ali.

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11-09-2021 , 02:09 PM

#149

Utah_CUtiger

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Im very interested to see how large Day 1F will be. Just how many European players actually did make the quick trek over?

Also I wonder how many will register on day 2.

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11-09-2021 , 02:40 PM

#150

BlackJackDegen

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Originally Posted by DogFace

It doesn't but the hand played out in such a way that it is really hard to see any other outcomes. Guy opens in the cutoff to 1100. Daniel 3bets to 3000 on the BTN. The guy in the BB cold calls. Back around to the cut-off who literally just sat down so no reads and he makes it 20k. Daniel has 47k total.

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