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2019 WSOP POY Error. Not DNEGS! Robert Campbell Wins (Poll added) 2019 WSOP POY Error. Not DNEGS! Robert Campbell Wins (Poll added)
View Poll Results: Do you think Daniel Negreanu was previously aware of the points error? (Public)
Yes
116 41.13%
No
127 45.04%
Bastard! (no opinion)
39 13.83%

11-08-2019 , 07:25 AM
Looks like DNegs doesn't won POY.

English is not my first, but I tried to explain situation on twitter.

https://twitter.com/GT_iskander/stat...52846447562754


Last edited by Videopro; 11-08-2019 at 04:30 PM. Reason: embed
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11-08-2019 , 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iskander
Looks like DNegs doesn't won POY.

English is not my first, but I tried to explain situation on twitter.

https://twitter.com/GT_iskander/stat...52846447562754
There might be something to this:

WSOP event 68 results show Daniel finishing in 36th place worth 213.1 points https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/res...7537&grid=1622
However, the live updates show the 36th finisher as SnapShove with an Irish flag https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/upd...rr=5&curpage=2 (Eliminations 28-36 ($7,315))

Hendon Mob lists the 36th place as going to Max Silver while Poker News lists SnapShove (is that Max Silver's WSOP.com username?) as finishing in place 36.

Event 68 started on June 30 and finished in the early hours of July 1. Daniel talks about just busting from this event on his July 1 video blog starting at the 11:39 mark. He makes no mention of cashing and in the next scene proceeds to the dinner break in the live event he's playing. The clip from Amanda says there are 322 people remaining in the tournament. Those timings don't necessarily line up, but it sure doesn't sound like he finished in 36th place.

Not saying that he didn't get the POY points somewhere else, but the reporting of the event definitely appears to be messed up.
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11-08-2019 , 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iskander
Looks like DNegs doesn't won POY.

English is not my first, but I tried to explain situation on twitter.

https://twitter.com/GT_iskander/stat...52846447562754
Looks like we need a Postle type of investigation
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11-08-2019 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iskander
Looks like DNegs doesn't won POY.

English is not my first, but I tried to explain situation on twitter.

https://twitter.com/GT_iskander/stat...52846447562754
that would be funny
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11-08-2019 , 11:57 AM
On Daniel’s last vlog it shows a breakdown of his points.
See if they show the correct events on there
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11-08-2019 , 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteBlow
On Daniel’s last vlog it shows a breakdown of his points.
See if they show the correct events on there

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11-08-2019 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iskander
Wow....
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11-08-2019 , 12:18 PM
DNegs is usually meticulous with this records. I would go with his records rather than a bunch of maybes on the web.

Quote:
Originally Posted by deemikey
There might be something to this:

WSOP event 68 results show Daniel finishing in 36th place worth 213.1 points https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/res...7537&grid=1622
However, the live updates show the 36th finisher as SnapShove with an Irish flag https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/upd...rr=5&curpage=2 (Eliminations 28-36 ($7,315))

Hendon Mob lists the 36th place as going to Max Silver while Poker News lists SnapShove (is that Max Silver's WSOP.com username?) as finishing in place 36.

Event 68 started on June 30 and finished in the early hours of July 1. Daniel talks about just busting from this event on his July 1 video blog starting at the 11:39 mark. He makes no mention of cashing and in the next scene proceeds to the dinner break in the live event he's playing. The clip from Amanda says there are 322 people remaining in the tournament. Those timings don't necessarily line up, but it sure doesn't sound like he finished in 36th place.

Not saying that he didn't get the POY points somewhere else, but the reporting of the event definitely appears to be messed up.
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11-08-2019 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lwlee
DNegs is usually meticulous with this records. I would go with his records rather than a bunch of maybes on the web.
It's not a maybe... He didn't cash in the $1k... The results for event 68 on wsop.com are mixed up with event 87 . He placed 36th for $4700 in the 3k horse not the 1k online
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11-08-2019 , 12:28 PM
Interesting. DNegs has his receipts, so hopefully it will be clarified.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss716
It's not a maybe... He didn't cash in the $1k... The results for event 68 on wsop.com are mixed up with event 87 . He placed 36th for $4700 in the 3k horse not the 1k online
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11-08-2019 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iskander
Per wsop Daniel got 4075 points. To know for sure we need a breakdown of that amount. Because the list in the picture doesn't equal that. If someone can get a list of what makes up the 4075 we can determine if it includes the 1k cash, and if it does it's wrong.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss716
Per wsop Daniel got 4075 points. To know for sure we need a breakdown of that amount. Because the list in the picture doesn't equal that. If someone can get a list of what makes up the 4075 we can determine if it includes the 1k cash, and if it does it's wrong.
Actually his list does equal 4075 a couple of results are just cut off in the pic.

So Daniel really only got 3862 points!!

Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-10-2019 at 11:27 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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11-08-2019 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
It's not a maybe... He didn't cash in the $1k... The results for event 68 on wsop.com are mixed up with event 87 . He placed 36th for $4700 in the 3k horse not the 1k online
Exactly.

Event #68:



#87:



The only difference is in POY, guess it calculated automatically and depends on number of players, buy-in etc.
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11-08-2019 , 01:02 PM
just check the vlogs guys easy
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11-08-2019 , 01:04 PM
This will be epic if this is true.
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11-08-2019 , 01:08 PM
There is definitely something wrong here. Pretty amazing catch by iskander.
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11-08-2019 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
This will be epic if this is true.
Wsop is very lucky there were no prizes involved... Daniel and Shaun would both have very legitimate cases that they would have approached final events differently had points been accurate...
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11-08-2019 , 01:10 PM
11-08-2019 , 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss716
Wsop is very lucky there were no prizes involved... Daniel and Shaun would both have very legitimate cases that they would have approached final events differently had points been accurate...
Right, if WSOP just decides to correct this now and award POY to Campbell, Deeb could very reasonably feel cheated. He probably would have used a different strategy on the final day of the Colossus if he only had to finish 8th rather than 5th, since he could have easily folded into 8th. All three players were using these point totals as their basis for their strategy throughout WSOP Europe. Maybe they need to award all three co-POY.
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11-08-2019 , 01:19 PM
GG- now confirmed
https://youtu.be/dHVcLibt8WY?t=695

This is a travesty for WSOP, sad for Daniel
he's in 3rd now

EDIT: unless the event didn't count towards points and just shows him as 36th as a bug on WSOP results page - some investigators need to check that, it's possible for sure when they can **** up like this.
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11-08-2019 , 01:19 PM
Deeb could easily lost big money here on sidebets.
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11-08-2019 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Right, if WSOP just decides to correct this now and award POY to Campbell, Deeb could very reasonably feel cheated. He probably would have used a different strategy on the final day of the Colossus if he only had to finish 8th rather than 5th, since he could have easily folded into 8th. All three players were using these point totals as their basis for their strategy throughout WSOP Europe. Maybe they need to award all three co-POY.
It's a mess regardless to already just a symbolic title
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11-08-2019 , 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss716
Actually his list does equal 4075 a couple of results are just cut off in the pic.

So Daniel really only got 3862 points!!
Oh it does? Yeah he 100% didn't cash that online event, this is bad, wonder if he knows.

Congrats for noticing guys. I would go mental if I were him and see stupid bug f***me over.
I actually wouldn't mind the suggestion of the top 3 being co-winners or something.

EDIT: This is a big deal...not just for potential sponsors and pride, money/EV lost chasing POY but you just know they had side bets on this

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11-08-2019 , 01:33 PM
i wonder why nobody has responded to the tweet yet
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11-08-2019 , 01:38 PM
I guess Andrew Yang needs to take back his congrats?



I honestly feel bad for Daniel and am shocked that nobody caught this earlier.

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11-08-2019 , 02:13 PM
Reaction videos needed from parties involved
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