Nice attempt to change the subject.

Aspie confirmed.

$8 million if they've had chilli.

Well, did it seem like he felt it was the biggest moment of his life and that everything else from now on would be an anticlimax? I'm not asking whether it would be the biggest moment of your life or mine, or not whether it's the biggest moment in his life in your eyes.

Except it objectively is the biggest moment in his life. To think its all gonna go downhill from here is quite cynical.

Dude didn't even crack a smile. Without a doubt this is a milestone in his life.

Anyway... All I'm saying is that this is gonna be something one would look back on someday... Why be remembered as the homeless looking bum?

How was that changing the subject?

Let's talk about NASCAR

Yes, it is literally all you're saying, about a dozen times so far. And discussing how other top competitors dress at the championship level isn't changing the subject; when you see players with straggly beards at the Stanley Cup is that also a disgrace?

You seem really upset that this person didn't dress and act and express his feelings like you or I or most people would have. We get it.

Also: have you ever actually seen any homeless people?

We're discussing the Stanley Cup now?

How about Rugby? Or NASCAR? **** it, what about Motocross Games?

You think how other top competitors present themselves at Championship events is a completely unrelated subject?

You just used the words milly and jelly in the same post. Did you do that on purpose? Or are you actually a 14 year old girl?

Does Joe's awkwardness factor into the lack of growth in player pools for American facing sites like Bovada, America's Cardroom, and Merge?

NOPE!



Does the fact that Bovada, America's Cardroom, and Merge didn't put up a single advertisement during the biggest poker tournament in the world keep their player pools from growing?

YES!

It's not Joe's fault that Calvin Ayre and Phil "WPN CEO" are too much of a POOS to advertise. Personalities were never a factor in the growth of poker. Pokerstars/Full Tilt/UB commercials popping up every 15 seconds is what caused the poker boom. Put the blame where the blame should be...on the POOS marketing departments (or, lack thereof) of Bovada, WPN, and Merge. I mean...Beckley was adverstising for ACR for 4 months prior to the WSOP final table. Where was his patch?

In addition to an unverified marketplace which inherently will attract losers or -EV stakes (I know of at least a couple players who have been banned in other staking forums on there), YouStake charges a site admin fee of 5% to stake players regardless of the buy-in. They say it's for contracts and stuff but are pretty ambiguous/misleading and the value of those are most likely overpriced given the fact that most players are -EV.

Pretty much anyone who does staking regularly will tell you this is extremely predatory to less informed investors.

Beckley is probably a nice guy as the reports say and I know it's a tough climate out there for poker sponsorships, but joining a company who also counts Jamie Gold as their lead pro comes off a bit clueless if not irresponsible.

hahahahaha Oh MAN!!! hilarious!!!!!! i see what you did there....
i used some slang/pop culture words on purpose and damn you called me out!!!!! wow...i really thought no one would notice..nothing gets by you.....Ya got me...I feel so insulted because I used an obvious 14 year old girl word "jelly"...because thats exactly how you haters are acting, high school girl bullies.......Like the other girls in school who are hating on the girl who just banged the guy they all want......or who just won 7 milly.....like...totally jelly..."hes fat, ugly, awkward,mentally challenged, unkept" blah blah blah....kinda exactly the things the "cool" girls used to say about other girls.....except, you all want to be considered grown men?



great post dude....keep it up

Dont get the hate on his clothing and presentation, I mean, sure, he looks like a bum etc etc, but he is playing fn poker, not giving a conference or something that requires a great presentation. Props to the guys that groomed themselves, but at the end wgaf about that, really.

Seems kinda obvious but it's actually not always true.

Personally I've gotten along fine with various awkward socialtards who realized their situation, and actually made some effort despite not being very good at it for whatever reason.

Awkward socialtards who simply dismiss everyone else as being unimportant and not worth their consideration or any sort of minimal effort... THOSE people I don't like.

Yeah, I know McKeehan has 7 million reasons not to give a **** if people don't like him. The fact remains that he came across as unlikeable, period. So can we leave it at that?

joe isn't hott enough for 2+2 fanboys...

A few things i've noticed.

1 - If its true that joe is on the spectrum, then it would make alot of sense out of what we saw on TV. -- and I wish more people would have some compassion.

2 - Turns out that playing really good small ball poker is BORING to watch .. -- yup it was boring to watch someone make so many good decisions and crush his opposition .. but he executed his strategy really well, and it paid off.

3 - the show was also boring because everyone else at the table decided to play for 2nd place. the money mattered most to all the players. (rightfully so..)

4 - yes it was crazy to watch someone go on a crazy heater, i'm looking forward to someone figuring out how many standard deviations from norm that run of cards was (I doubt we'll see a run this good at the final table again while i'm alive) . and I can see that alot of folks here are having a hard time being happy for someone who basically ran like a god. (Its not just crazy that he caught AA, KK, QQ, and AK, AQ so often, and that his AK connected with the board almost every time, but his opponents also caught reasonable hands those times).

if you are tilted by joe, think about what that is saying about you.

Blumenfield made a big mistake in his bust out hand. There was a raise, 3-bet, and he goes allin with 22 for 10xBB. He is always getting called and does not have good equity. Better to look to open shove or shove over a minraise with that stack.

The Q8o hand where Blumenfield 3-barreled, the c-bet on the Txx flop was good and standard. The river bet for like 1/3 pot when the possible backdoor flush hit was just throwing away money.

Thought overall Blumenfield and Stern fairly played well, perhaps as a result of coaching. McKeehen, Steinberg, Cannuli, and Chan seemed like the only decent pros there. Not sure if Butteroni got another coach after Hellmuth didn't go through, but he needed lessons on pushbotting 6xBB.

Really weird only 2 flop raises as commented. Maybe they were trying not to have a blow up and do something stupid. However, several players seemed over cautious.

Thought McKeehen was in great shape going into the final table with the weak lineup. Particularly going into day 3, with 2/3 of the chips against 2 competent but not great players, he had close to a lock.

Noticed that most of the players seemed to have new haircuts and were trying to look sharp. Seems a little strange McKeehen would want to look that way knowing he would be on TV for hours.

I seriously doubt the public sits through 15 hours of live poker

I wonder what world some of the people in this thread live in where Joe looks like a "homeless person" or a "captive" as someone put it. He looks like a regular guy. Never seen so many guys so interested in another mans appearance. It's pretty creepy tbh.

Yeah I said it was boring but I think boring is the wrong word because I actually sat through every hand captivated waiting for something to change. It's just that that moment never came. Joes stack never dipped below 75mil and nobody else hit 50.

Somewhat disappointing yet still interesting is probably a better description. Having said that though I don't enjoy seeing luckboxes hit miracle cards after getting outplayed for monster pots so I guess I can't complain.

Tom Cannuli is a class act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtl276ZpbqA

And I think he's 100% genuine about all of that too.

Pretty amazing life attitude he has at only 24, especially considering he spends so much time sitting in front of a screen grinding poker.

I was hoping he would win because he has a great personality along with a positive vibe and would of been a much greater main event winner then boring Joe.

lol @twitter beef between negreanu/beckley criticals and beckley's crew

I think he's a nice kid, but man, did he play bad and lacked any kind of decent fundamentals. It surprises me diphtrong is so offensive about it. pbb being blind because he coached him (only for a week tho?)

beckley didn't get in much (difficult) spots at all at the ft, and the spots he had, he played pretty poorly in general.

It's ok. Kid has more money now than 99% of the poker world will pbb have (myself included, before haters start using that silly argument) and can maybe actually become good at poker. It's just silly to think he even played remotely close to solid/good.

If i'd have to rank play from final table I'd say (will exclude chan & butteroni, as we didn't see anything about their game at all, but we can pbb assume butteroni played too tight)

1. Joe
2. Stern
3. Canulli
4. Blumenfield
5. Neuville
6. Steinberg
7. Beckley

4-7 are pretty close, ranked it based on 'mistakes' if that's a good way to put it. Think neuville pbb made the least mistakes then.

edit: meh switched blumenfield and neuville.

Also have to say I really liked the way Beckley composed himself through the ft, he didn't show much/any nerves at all, and afaik didn't give away any live tells. So props for his demeanour.