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10-07-2021 , 02:55 AM
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At the end of the day, people will just see him as a great player and forget about eveything else.
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10-07-2021 , 03:03 AM
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Just make murder legal so we don’t have to catch all the murderers.
g1, americans kinda already do that so w/e
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10-07-2021 , 08:59 AM
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go check the business section on bitcoin. my sunday million win is almost 2 btc but ur an idiot. i dont get why rta is ban and trackers are not. it give u guys an unfair advantage. just make all rta legal and there wouldnt be any cheaters then since it so hard for sites to enforce the rule
Glad to see that the old adage that money can't buy happiness still holds true. Well, 2btc doesn't seem to.
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10-07-2021 , 10:36 AM
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If having a program which tells u exactly how to play each spot isn’t cheating then what is cheating?
Cards up your sleeve.
Removing cards from play.
Cold decking.
Early access to hole cards
Maybe a secret house rule like 3 pair beats a straight. Operative word secret
not an exhaustive list, but it's a much smaller leap from memorizing or viewing preflop charts to RTA than it is to actually cheating.

Is holding cheating in an NFL game?
Fouling on a layup in the NBA?
Fighting in hockey?
Offsides in Soccer?
Flopping?
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10-07-2021 , 11:26 AM
#180
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Cards up your sleeve.
Removing cards from play.
Cold decking.
Early access to hole cards
Maybe a secret house rule like 3 pair beats a straight. Operative word secret
not an exhaustive list, but it's a much smaller leap from memorizing or viewing preflop charts to RTA than it is to actually cheating.

Is holding cheating in an NFL game?
Fouling on a layup in the NBA?
Fighting in hockey?
Offsides in Soccer?
Flopping?
man I really need to stop checking in on this thread
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10-07-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Lol. I guess he missed the part where all of those offenses have consequences that hurt the team to disincentive them from happening.

RTA’s consequences are ban hammer, fund confiscation, and community ridicule when caught. Also, this is cheating because the villains have no idea it’s happening. So none of those examples are really applicable, anyways.
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10-07-2021 , 05:58 PM
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i said my 2c, im done debating with yall have a good life
Just wondering what happened to this? Seemed highly preferable for all involved.
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10-08-2021 , 09:21 AM
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Lol. I guess he missed the part where all of those offenses have consequences that hurt the team to disincentive them from happening.

RTA’s consequences are ban hammer, fund confiscation, and community ridicule when caught. Also, this is cheating because the villains have no idea it’s happening. So none of those examples are really applicable, anyways.
"They can't call it every play"
- Seattle Seahawks

All of these things happen all the time with random enforcement here and there. If you're not cheating you're not trying.
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10-08-2021 , 12:43 PM
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Easiest ignore list addition this year.
agreed, I recommend everyone follow suit

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/p...gnore&u=321911
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10-08-2021 , 12:59 PM
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"They can't call it every play"
- Seattle Seahawks

All of these things happen all the time with random enforcement here and there. If you're not cheating you're not trying.
And if you're at peace being a piece of ****, then more power to you.
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10-09-2021 , 09:36 AM
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How is he doing well in all these live tournies if he was only cheating online??? Run good? Seems like he's doing welll...
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10-09-2021 , 10:29 AM
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How is he doing well in all these live tournies if he was only cheating online??? Run good? Seems like he's doing welll...
Hi Squid
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10-09-2021 , 06:50 PM
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Just because you can be good without cheating doesn't excuse cheating. Google "Barry Bonds steroids"

(I don't follow sports, but from my understanding he would still be a top player even without steroids)
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10-09-2021 , 08:53 PM
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We will have to agree to disagree
No. You wil just have to be wrong.

It is against the rules thus it is cheating. You may not like or agree with the rule but that is a different argument.
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10-09-2021 , 10:12 PM
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online poker is impossible to fix not because of the logistics of doing so but because of the nature of the people who are drawn to the game.

live poker will always fair better against cheating because you not only have to cheat/win but you also have to make it to your car.
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10-11-2021 , 05:05 PM
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How is he doing well in all these live tournies if he was only cheating online??? Run good? Seems like he's doing welll...
Because he used RTA for so long that he learned from it well enough to compete legitimately (of course, that doesn't justify all the cheating he did).

As OP, this thread has evolved massively from when I started it given the revelations of cheating. This Squid guy seems pretty sociopathic based on his hubris, his level of indifference toward cheating, and his insane attempts to rationalize all of it/manipulate those in his stable with the US/North Korea comment.
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10-13-2021 , 03:32 AM
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Reading this thread may be a chore, but worth it when you realize the mentality you are competing against.
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10-14-2021 , 12:26 AM
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The derailment of this thread is remarkable...I had a fun arrival and quick departure from 2p2, lmao.
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10-14-2021 , 12:34 AM
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so this guy is a part of the RTA cheating software cancer that has killed/killing online poker?

cool, cool cool cool.

what a stud, glad you made that article and left out that bit of info cardplayer you cucks.
+1
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10-14-2021 , 04:28 PM
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Just make murder legal so we don’t have to catch all the murderers.
they beta tested this w/ OJ and it hasn't worked out so well
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10-14-2021 , 09:35 PM
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This guy was just dumb enough to brag about it (and has yet to face any consequences while being up who knows how much). For each one like him there's probably hundreds quietly chugging along. The reality is that if you use RTA in a smart manner (confine the tree to common bet sizes, don't take strange "inhuman" lines, don't tell your buddies about it etc.) there's virtually no way to get caught. RTA is so easy to get nowadays you don't even need to put in the time and effort to build your own database. I mean you have websites (with dedicated threads on this very forum) that are selling this exact stuff advertising it as "GTO training". When it's as easy as a click and a swipe of the credit card away you better believe it's being used en masse. It's quickly turning into a case of use it or get left in the dust and with sites unable to police it this will steadily turn into a common practice.

One guy tells the truth ITT and gets ignored. If u play online and play by the rules it better be for amounts that don’t matter to you because you are giving up a huge edge to these RTA scumbags and there’s plenty of them
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10-15-2021 , 02:03 AM
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This guy was just dumb enough to brag about it (and has yet to face any consequences while being up who knows how much). For each one like him there's probably hundreds quietly chugging along. The reality is that if you use RTA in a smart manner (confine the tree to common bet sizes, don't take strange "inhuman" lines, don't tell your buddies about it etc.) there's virtually no way to get caught. RTA is so easy to get nowadays you don't even need to put in the time and effort to build your own database. I mean you have websites (with dedicated threads on this very forum) that are selling this exact stuff advertising it as "GTO training". When it's as easy as a click and a swipe of the credit card away you better believe it's being used en masse. It's quickly turning into a case of use it or get left in the dust and with sites unable to police it this will steadily turn into a common practice.
I think you're over-exaggerating how easy it is. If it was that easy, every reg out there would be doing it, right down to as low as 2nl.
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10-15-2021 , 02:29 AM
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One guy tells the truth ITT and gets ignored. If u play online and play by the rules it better be for amounts that don’t matter to you because you are giving up a huge edge to these RTA scumbags and there’s plenty of them
i actually cant think of a single reg in my games playing gto
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10-28-2021 , 04:20 PM
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10-28-2021 , 05:08 PM
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he's lucky that public shaming is about the extent of his punishment . In doyle's days you'd just be shot
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