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20-year-old poker phenom is crushing it (by cheating / using RTA) 20-year-old poker phenom is crushing it (by cheating / using RTA)

10-05-2021 , 11:54 AM
Jesus the last 10 or so posts itt are either some top class trolling or everybody lost there critical thinking skills this morning



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Originally Posted by PartyLove
No, I like competition. It makes my brain stronger... And I am talking about online "gamble" poker. Chess is a skill game. You can beat the "best poker player" in world when it's your lucky day. Try to beat the best Chess player in the world... You can forget that!
This terrible argument again!

No you won vs the best poker player you didn't beat them!

You don't claim you beat roulette just cause you won that night
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10-05-2021 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Jesus the last 10 or so posts itt are either some top class trolling or everybody lost there critical thinking skills this morning

This terrible argument again!

No you won vs the best poker player you didn't beat them!

You don't claim you beat roulette just cause you won that night
Here comes the beauty... I understand you, but you are not trying to understand me.
I Won or I beat, whatever... How many times people say after a soccer game or a fight. We beat them or I beat him? So that doesn't count because it was one time?

Just for you J.E.C: Try to win from the best Chess player in the world... You can forget that!

Keep trying...

Edit: This goes off topic. PM if you want to show me you are the man! LOL

Last edited by PartyLove; 10-05-2021 at 01:42 PM.
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10-05-2021 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivanka2024
first post was so ridiculous i thought jfound was trolling but it's apparent he's actually that stupid
Lol I’m a genius on a different level buddy, u just arent on my level.
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10-05-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTankTapper
This is called a straw man..

Just bc other nefarious actions are taking place doesn’t mean that RTA shouldn’t be banned.
I have posted many times rta shouldn’t be ban. We had an discussion on a different thread but it got deleted cuz it was a derail. I’m not against rta. May the best person w rta win all the money.
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10-05-2021 , 02:16 PM
These excuses clearly aren't the work of any well designed software.
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10-05-2021 , 02:19 PM
Oh what a suprise another topic derailed ...
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10-05-2021 , 02:49 PM
I have e-mailed the security team at GGPoker with the information I have as well as a link to this thread.

While I don't play any NL MTTs I dabble in the highstakes PLO-tournaments they run during series.

I urge anyone else who plays on there to contact their security team through your VIP-rep or affiliate so they could launch an investigation to conclude whether any cheating has taken place while Ruan has been playing on there.
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10-05-2021 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
If u steal it from an American who has a lot of money then I’m okay with that since 100k to some Americans is chump change. Lucky I’m part Canadian n not American so the q doesn’t effect me but if u ask me to loan u 100k in 3rd world country currency I def do like zimbawae.
I honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not because between this post and the one essentially supporting the notion that cheating in poker is ok because some people are born in america is so dumb I'm astounded anyone would fall for that excuse
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10-06-2021 , 01:13 AM
Can’t the riggies just stay in they’re own thread.. why must so many threads be derailed with their age old arguments about how it’s all luck and obviously there’s no skill cause they’d be winning if it was about skill!
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10-06-2021 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
I honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not because between this post and the one essentially supporting the notion that cheating in poker is ok because some people are born in america is so dumb I'm astounded anyone would fall for that excuse
Rta isn’t cheating in my books. ur missing the point. all i am saying is if u want to be a justice warrior there are better things to do than complain about a kid using rta

Last edited by jfound; 10-06-2021 at 03:06 AM.
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10-06-2021 , 05:10 AM
This guy was just dumb enough to brag about it (and has yet to face any consequences while being up who knows how much). For each one like him there's probably hundreds quietly chugging along. The reality is that if you use RTA in a smart manner (confine the tree to common bet sizes, don't take strange "inhuman" lines, don't tell your buddies about it etc.) there's virtually no way to get caught. RTA is so easy to get nowadays you don't even need to put in the time and effort to build your own database. I mean you have websites (with dedicated threads on this very forum) that are selling this exact stuff advertising it as "GTO training". When it's as easy as a click and a swipe of the credit card away you better believe it's being used en masse. It's quickly turning into a case of use it or get left in the dust and with sites unable to police it this will steadily turn into a common practice.
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10-06-2021 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokitren
Aren't cheating and bluffing the same thing? But bluffing is considered part of poker. You can't win at poker without bluffing, because the odds won't let you.
Jesus christ this last page may have some of the worst ever takes in 2+2 history!
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10-06-2021 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokitren
Aren't cheating and bluffing the same thing? But bluffing is considered part of poker. You can't win at poker without bluffing, because the odds won't let you.
Hahahahahhahaha
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10-06-2021 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
just wondering what u think about guys doing coke or add to get an edge. its against the law but u guys dont seem to give a **** about that. they should be ban too. just cuz its a rule or law doesn't mean its right. u guys seem like justice warriors why u dont ****ing go help or save the world which is way more urgent than a kid using rta. is it fair u guys were born in 1st world country where some have to starve till death but u guys dont seem to give a **** about that. to a 3rd worlder living in a 1st world country is cheating. u guys argue what is fair and what isnt, alot of people think ur being unfair
This is a poker forum for people who care about poker.

That rationale would render >99% of all Human activity meaningless.
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10-06-2021 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
just wondering what u think about guys doing coke or add to get an edge. its against the law but u guys dont seem to give a **** about that. they should be ban too. just cuz its a rule or law doesn't mean its right. u guys seem like justice warriors why u dont ****ing go help or save the world which is way more urgent than a kid using rta. is it fair u guys were born in 1st world country where some have to starve till death but u guys dont seem to give a **** about that. to a 3rd worlder living in a 1st world country is cheating. u guys argue what is fair and what isnt, alot of people think ur being unfair
agreed but RTA is absolutely immoral cheating.
I can feel bad for those born into bad situations while also calling a scumbag cheater a pos.

I absolutely think a lot of people need a better perspective on things. Anyone who can play poker for money is extremely fortunate and they should appreciate rather than crying about bad beats etc.That doesn't mean people just just mindlessly accept getting cheated out of their money.
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10-06-2021 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
agreed but RTA is absolutely immoral cheating.
I can feel bad for those born into bad situations while also calling a scumbag cheater a pos.

I absolutely think a lot of people need a better perspective on things. Anyone who can play poker for money is extremely fortunate and they should appreciate rather than crying about bad beats etc.That doesn't mean people just just mindlessly accept getting cheated out of their money.
We will have to agree to disagree
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10-06-2021 , 03:23 PM
How dare anyone care about RTA when there’s kids starving in Africa

Shame on all of you
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10-06-2021 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
We will have to agree to disagree
If having a program which tells u exactly how to play each spot isn’t cheating then what is cheating?
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10-06-2021 , 03:40 PM
For those of you who aren't aware, he's really not worth engaging on this (or many other) topic(s). The last time he carried on about how botting should be allowed, he told me later that he was "playing devil's advocate".
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10-06-2021 , 03:42 PM
jfound seems like a player frustrated he can’t beat the games anymore.

Here is his PGC about his journey back into poker. Doesn’t seem like he has much to share. Prob cuz he realizes his only hope at winning is cheating.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...69/?highlight=
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10-06-2021 , 03:51 PM
The last time I saw this thread title, it was "20 year old poker phenom is crushing it". Now "by cheating/using RTA" has been added.

When and how did people find that out?
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10-06-2021 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x
jfound seems like a player frustrated he can’t beat the games anymore.

Here is his PGC about his journey back into poker. Doesn’t seem like he has much to share. Prob cuz he realizes his only hope at winning is cheating.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...69/?highlight=
lol my crypto made me so much i decided to quit playing full time w/e, you sure did ur "homework"
rather learn to buy good nft than grind poker ever again. making 50$ an hour is not worth my mental and physical health
u think playing poker make u the most money in this world if yes that ur sadly mistaken
if everyone is allowed rta its fair game. Also having a rta doesnt gaurantee u make money.
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10-06-2021 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
For those of you who aren't aware, he's really not worth engaging on this (or many other) topic(s). The last time he carried on about how botting should be allowed, he told me later that he was "playing devil's advocate".
yea playing devils advocate doesnt mean im wrong. its like ppl using software for stock trades, oh no thats not allowed too..
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10-06-2021 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
yea playing devils advocate doesnt mean im wrong. its like ppl using software for stock trades, oh no thats not allowed too..
It’s actually not illegal
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10-06-2021 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
It’s actually not illegal
oh really i did not know but pretty sure many use it. go complain about them too. i think it should be allowed too. how the f can sites enforce rta, just make it legal so everyone can use it instead of banning ppl for using it

Last edited by jfound; 10-06-2021 at 04:19 PM.
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