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20-year-old poker phenom is crushing it (by cheating / using RTA) 20-year-old poker phenom is crushing it (by cheating / using RTA)

09-27-2021 , 06:10 PM


It’s nice to see a young Asian woman doing well in poker.
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09-27-2021 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
https://twitter.com/DanSmithHolla/st...38485593288704

'HU vs 20 year old in 50k. I have 1.6 out of 3.6 million chips

He asks to chop. I say “I’d only do an even chop”

He says yes! We divvy up the chips and flip for the trophy. He wins. He realizes even chop means split the money and asks for more.

So we are playing it out'
lmfao this can't be real, what a clown this guy must be
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09-28-2021 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
https://twitter.com/DanSmithHolla/st...38485593288704

'HU vs 20 year old in 50k. I have 1.6 out of 3.6 million chips

He asks to chop. I say “I’d only do an even chop”

He says yes! We divvy up the chips and flip for the trophy. He wins. He realizes even chop means split the money and asks for more.

So we are playing it out'
What’s an even chop if he’s not talking about money?

Seems like an angle to me
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09-28-2021 , 08:49 AM
He clearly meant straight ICM chop, not 50/50 chop

I doubt he has much if any experience in dealmaking let alone the terminology of dealmaking.
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09-28-2021 , 09:25 AM
I might have made the same mistake. Why would anyone be speaking of a 50/50 split when one player has a greater than 2:1 chiplead? That seems pointless and insulting to me.
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09-28-2021 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesisarobot
I might have made the same mistake. Why would anyone be speaking of a 50/50 split when one player has a greater than 2:1 chiplead? That seems pointless and insulting to me.
Dan Smith = 2 million
Asian kid = 1.6 million

If im reading it right. Its much closer to 50/50. even chop seems reasonable given dan's presumed experience over the kid.
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09-28-2021 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kerr
He clearly meant straight ICM chop, not 50/50 chop

I doubt he has much if any experience in dealmaking let alone the terminology of dealmaking.
HU. ICM. Does not compute
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09-28-2021 , 11:04 AM
I'm surprised this guy is not getting more flack as it's a pretty big deal. Ridiculous that he's still allowed to play. I hope this thread gains more attention so it can bring awareness to his shady past. Has his SN's been outed on other sites?
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09-28-2021 , 11:14 AM
Poker player with a shady past? Call the authorities! The upstanding poker community will not stand idly by while a bad actor sullies its impeccable reputation. Lmfao
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09-28-2021 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Dan Smith = 2 million
Asian kid = 1.6 million

If im reading it right. Its much closer to 50/50. even chop seems reasonable given dan's presumed experience over the kid.
Smith had 1.6
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09-28-2021 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Dan Smith = 2 million
Asian kid = 1.6 million

If im reading it right. Its much closer to 50/50. even chop seems reasonable given dan's presumed experience over the kid.
Oh yeah, I did misread it. Thanks for pointing that out. Dan Smith was the one with fewer chips though.
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09-28-2021 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SurpriseBetsX
HU. ICM. Does not compute

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09-28-2021 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kerr
He clearly meant straight ICM chop, not 50/50 chop

I doubt he has much if any experience in dealmaking let alone the terminology of dealmaking.
I might have been willing to scratch that up as inexperience but the article did said that he has been playing High Stake MTT for the last 2 years. I'm sure discussion of deal/chopping have come up multiple times.

The kid F Dan Smith.
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09-28-2021 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyBu
What’s an even chop if he’s not talking about money?

Seems like an angle to me
What was the upside If it was an angle, to tilt Smith?

He won and didn't take it. If he lost why would he take that.
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09-28-2021 , 02:52 PM
he's used to RTA doing chops for him
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09-29-2021 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RektByPandas
Yes I was the one who openly outed him for cheating online. He then moved to cheating online MTTS before showing up in the spotlight. Him and his entire crew are banned on global poker
What was his screenname on Global?
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09-29-2021 , 01:03 AM
no link/evidence to the rta stuff?
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09-29-2021 , 09:53 AM
Used to RTA using Vision on highstakes ACR under the name Weeb among others as well. Instructed and backed a large group of young players to use Vision while playing on all US networks.

Used his reputation before all the RTA stuff leaked to sign them up on deals under slavery conditions promising coaching and in the end giving them 0 and only instructing them to cheat.

Low life scum who is everything but a poker phenom. I have seen the small amount of material he provided "students" with and it's extremely lol worthy. This guy would have stood 0% chance winning at any highstakes cash game without cheating.
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09-29-2021 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahm93
Used to RTA using Vision on highstakes ACR under the name Weeb among others as well. Instructed and backed a large group of young players to use Vision while playing on all US networks.

Used his reputation before all the RTA stuff leaked to sign them up on deals under slavery conditions promising coaching and in the end giving them 0 and only instructing them to cheat.

Low life scum who is everything but a poker phenom. I have seen the small amount of material he provided "students" with and it's extremely lol worthy. This guy would have stood 0% chance winning at any highstakes cash game without cheating.
Didn't you read the article? Cash games are solved brah!!
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09-29-2021 , 10:58 AM
what a pointless thread, people still dont understand variance in poker rofl
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09-29-2021 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
Didn't you read the article? Cash games are solved brah!!
I am not worried about the future of HS cash games, and while using Vision to play PLO is a big issue which I spoke very vocally against Phil Galfond getting involved in when they launched it on RIO, I believe it will not make you into a top player and I have experienced first hand the increased presence of security teams on most sites that offer highstakes games and I think a lot of them are doing a good job.

It is the way this guy treated a large group of young guys in poor financial positions who put their faith and large chunk of future earnings on the line for him that bothers me even more.

There is a lot more to this story but I am not the one to tell as I was not the one to experience it first hand and I don't want to speak out of turn to out someone accidentally.
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09-29-2021 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Itachi1234
what a pointless thread, people still dont understand variance in poker rofl
People still don't understand that playing online is stooooooooooooopid.
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09-29-2021 , 12:57 PM
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“Cash games are sort of solved. If I wanted to, I could figure it out. I could build a whole game tree and show you”
I miss being 20 and having this level of hubris.
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09-29-2021 , 01:53 PM
whenever I hear people say '...I'm going to get my GED..' I think to myself, wow, you couldn't even pass high school.
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09-29-2021 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rahm93
I am not worried about the future of HS cash games, and while using Vision to play PLO is a big issue which I spoke very vocally against Phil Galfond getting involved in when they launched it on RIO, I believe it will not make you into a top player and I have experienced first hand the increased presence of security teams on most sites that offer highstakes games and I think a lot of them are doing a good job.
To be fair Galfond&RIO are training site and they have to offer product and new technoogy to their customer.
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