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augie_

08-11-2008 05:08 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by actiondan1 (Post 5564950)

ADMO, I will pay Steven's debt off for you, IF his work in the scam at UB actually results in me beeing refunded the $200,000 or $300,000 I lost there. But UB wont send me HH or actually tell me if I am owned any thing, supposedly I am to wait for the second round of refunds to see if I am to receive anything. CURITI

wow that's quite an offer!

KingOfFelt

08-11-2008 05:11 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by actiondan1 (Post 5564950)

What is your UB screen name?

RobAtticus

08-11-2008 05:16 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Rice (Post 5564755)

I can't imagine finding myself in Mr. Ware's position, as I wouldn't borrow money for gambling (or use money not mine for that purpose). But if somehow I did find myself owing a large sum, I wouldn't be too happy with being dragged over the coals the way he's been. All of this public humiliation and ridicule would seem to me worth something. Maybe I would consider it worth $30K and that you've forfeited the opportunity to be paid back, even though I initially had the intent to repay the debt fully. This would be especially true if $30K was a very large sum to me and hard to come up with.

Enough gimmicks, Steve.

bulls_horn

08-11-2008 05:20 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Oh, Jeeeeesusssssssss! Another thread about this?

"A fool and his money are lucky to get together in the first place" - Gordon Gekko.

You trusted the wrong guy and got took. What do you really expect anyone to do about it?

Are we to expect a weekly update thread? Part vear? Part funf? Part sechs? At what point do you go bi-monthly?

towery

08-11-2008 05:28 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobAtticus (Post 5565111)

Enough gimmicks, Steve.

I'm guessing he was smart enough to use a proxy this time. He hasn't used this gimmick since 07.

One fun quote to DS

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Rice

David, you need to stay out of the sun. It's not healthy for guys like you and me.

ImPokerStar

08-11-2008 05:29 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by actiondan1 (Post 5564950)

wow thats some statement.

The Camel

08-11-2008 05:29 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by randyd501 (Post 5564511)

FYI this is an PM I received the other day from CF-this kid is in need of serious mental help!

Steve[/I]

For posting these PM's at this time you are the lowest form of scum randy. You should be ashamed.

dhg223

08-11-2008 05:30 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by actiondan1 (Post 5564950)

How does action dan harrington only have 17 poasts? :confused:

randyd501

08-11-2008 05:34 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by The Camel (Post 5565369)

For posting these PM's at this time you are the lowest form of scum randy. You should be ashamed.

I posted from a banned member of this site dick.hed! If it is wrong lets the mods delete them!
U callin me a scummer means a lot 2 me I won't be able to sleep 2nite

kerze

08-11-2008 05:34 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Steve and I had worked together on 2+2 before in a sting operation involving a serial scammer. People try to scam me in the p2p threads often and I usually will string them along for their info before handing everything off to Mike Haven and Stars/FTP security departments. After he became mod, Steve was especially vigilant in following up re: one scammer I was stringing along, and he would PM me every day with offers of help or to ask if I wanted the guy banned yet. He seemed at the time to spend a lot of time fighting against scammers in the HSNL transfer thread.

In retrospect does this seem a little fishy?

George Rice

08-11-2008 05:35 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfFelt (Post 5564872)

Then you are not much better morally than he is are you? Sorry, but if you steal money from someone then being publicly humiliated does not count against what you owe. Should a bank robber get less jail time if posters of him are circulated around town before he is caught?

EDIT - I'll add I don't know Steve Ware personally at all, so I'm not making a judgment on him, just the situation.

Let's not be so quick to pass moral judgment on me, you don't know me. And I'm not talking about a total moral situation. I'm talking about a practical one too. The amount may be too much of a burden.

Assuming the money was "stolen" as you say, do you really think that someone whose morals are low enough to steal are at the same time high enough to pay someone back?

And it doesn't matter what you or I may think about whether or not public humiliation has an effect on the debt. Pissing off the person who owes the debt is not in the best interest of the person owed (The comment on it being worth $30K was sarcasm).

892King

08-11-2008 05:41 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

finally it becomes BORINGGG

EL Burro Loco

08-11-2008 05:42 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by playentowin (Post 5562809)

I might be missing something but why would someone buy a degen's debt at 1:1?

I asked my friend (that we call) Grandma about this and he said you tell the creditor that your buying at 1:1, but really once you own it you can charge interest. Also, you can imply that you have "methods of collection" which seems to the debtor to be very intimidating. Once you apply something they call in the trade "gorilla math" you can add a weekly vig based on the time he already has owed the money.

George Rice

08-11-2008 05:48 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by towery (Post 5565345)

I'm guessing he was smart enough to use a proxy this time. He hasn't used this gimmick since 07.

One fun quote to DS

To borrow a phrase from David, "Huh?"

800+ posts over several years using my real name and you think I'm shilling for someone else? Really?

Admo	08-11-2008 05:49 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

To repeat: I didn't start this thread, a moderator did.

I don't know why the moderators keep locking earlier threads to start new ones, but I assume the answer lies somewhere in between server load and advertising revenue.

IrishLadChris

08-11-2008 05:52 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by Admo (Post 5565700)

so you did not type the op.

yeh right

MvdB	08-11-2008 05:54 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by IrishLadChris (Post 5565738)

so you did not type the op.

yeh right

stfu and gtfo

moderators can move posts, even into entirely new threads if they wish

tiger_hall

08-11-2008 05:56 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

surely the best thing to do would definitely not bail out Steve by 2+2 coming together to bail out a degenerative gambler
surely he will learn a lot by having so much pressure on him to repay this can only be a positive and its his own fault for losing all the money

lastsamurai

08-11-2008 05:57 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by VailSkiBum (Post 5564261)

I am not sure what the civil judgement laws are like wherever this suit may be filed, but in Florida (where I had lived for years running a large construction co.), judgements fall off the books after 6 or 7 years. If you do not collect within that timeframe, you never will.

Even if Admo is successful in any form of garnishment order, I do not see the 30k+ being paid in full ever.

So true...Even credit card companies have hard time collecting judgements.

Vern	08-11-2008 06:05 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuq (Post 5564770)

IrishLadChris
enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 62

Seems about right.

I am starting to think you are correct on this point.

Zakkenayo

08-11-2008 06:16 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by tuq (Post 5564770)

IrishLadChris
enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 62

Seems about right.

Damn.... even I have to admit you're right, and I registered recently as well.... sigh....

Pot Odds RAC

08-11-2008 06:17 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Rice (Post 5564755)

I knew there was a reason I never lend money to gamblers for gambling. I have no problem buying them dinner, a bus ticket or letting them sleep in my room (if I like them), but no money for gambling (I might make an exception for someone I KNEW was good for the amount from other means). And when I write "money to gamblers for gambling," I mean lending money to gamblers for any reason, as I assume they will gamble with it no matter what they may say or intend (Like giving the homeless money for "food" which one suspects will actually be used for booze. Nope, maybe I'll buy them a sandwich instead.). And I realize this situation is different on its face. But in reality, money was given to a gambler and the obvious risk was realized.

I can't imagine finding myself in Mr. Ware's position, as I wouldn't borrow money for gambling (or use money not mine for that purpose). But if somehow I did find myself owing a large sum, I wouldn't be too happy with being dragged over the coals the way he's been. All of this public humiliation and ridicule would seem to me worth something. Maybe I would consider it worth $30K and that you've forfeited the opportunity to be paid back, even though I initially had the intent to repay the debt fully. This would be especially true if $30K was a very large sum to me and hard to come up with.

You might not want to admit it, but I suspect that you know that by making a public spectacle of this (especially with that web site), you have taken the additional risk of hardening Mr. Ware against you. In fact, I suspect that you're trying to get $30K worth of revenge out of it and don't really expect to get any of your money back.

Good luck trying to collect the debt. Even if you win judgment, collection is a whole other matter. The world is full of people who owe money (a lot more than $30K) and keep their assets in the names of others (and many of them are present in the gambling community).

Regardless of your original legitimate beef, if these threads go on much longer, you're going to come off as a whiner, especially since you should have known better.

It

Wasn't

A

Loan

Pot Odds RAC

08-11-2008 06:21 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishLadChris (Post 5565738)

so you did not type the op.

yeh right

stfu and gtfo

Dude.

Pay attention. The guy posted an update in the PREVIOUS thread which a Mod then deleted and used to open this thread.

You may want to sit out a couple of plays there Chief.

Pot Odds RAC

08-11-2008 06:22 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

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Originally Posted by IrishLadChris (Post 5565840)

new page

Can we get a ban here?

MicroBob

08-11-2008 06:23 PM

Re: 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

Quote:

Originally Posted by randyd501 (Post 5565456)

I posted from a banned member of this site! If it is wrong lets the mods delete them!
U callin me a scummer means a lot 2 me I won't be able to sleep 2nite

Steve is not banned from the site at all.
If he has something to say to the forums he is perfectly capable of doing so himself.
Posting PM's without permission of the writer is not allowed on 2+2.

I also edited the quote...please do not circumvent the profanity filter.

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