cancelling a plane flight is normally a 100-200 dollar fee. He got ripped off for ~12-15k of value.

also they gave it to another player, presumably for money, meaning that they legitimately raked the 10k.

well, i'm not a lawyer either (lol)...but i'm pretty sure i've seen non-refundable/non-transferrable types of clauses that were pretty much the exact same in many different kinds of promotional giveaways or events where prizes are awarded. i realize satelliting into a tournament is not exactly the same, and while i'm skeptical that this rule of theirs would constitute "unreasonable" in a court of law, i might still contact a lawyer for consultation if i was OP and possibly pursue that angle (provided it made sense from a financial standpoint).

the fact that titan has this rule, and won't compensate him for his missed opportunity that he received as a result of WINNING A TOURNAMENT THAT THE SITE RAKED, is ridiculous and should be a reason for anybody not to play there. from a legal standpoint in the context of the site's TOC, it may very well just be par for the course. from a moral and practical standpoint, it's theft.

complete scumbags imo.

She said i had "lipotimia" i dont know how to say in english but i think its: "lipothymy". And told me to do heart exams just to be shure. Like i said i sent Titan all the doctor and hospital documents, i can post here if you really want to.

fwif I believe you should not fight this in court, since they stated in there terms you should play or its revoked, I do believe they are affraid for bad publicity though and you should make it a goodwill case.Again: give us the email adress of your contact person and a std mail and let us send a mail plus a link to this thread

Could this have happened?

Having read about a player in 2007 being refunded a tournament buy-in, OP thought this was the perfect opportunity to get 10k in hard cash instead of playing a grueling donkament where chances of even a min-cash were slim. So he arrived at airport and promptly faked an illness just before takeoff.

Like i said in a previous post, if i really wanted the 10k i would use this:

15.
Any player who has not taken a hand by the start of the third level will be considered a “no show.” These players will have their chips removed from play and will not be eligible to participate in that event. The buy-ins for “no shows” will be removed from the prize pool and placed on safekeeping in that player’s name at the Main WSOP Registration cage after the second level of play. All funds placed on safekeeping due to no shows must be claimed prior to July 19th, 2011. Funds not claimed on or before that date shall be forfeited to Rio and shall not be refunded for any reason whatsoever. This rule does not apply to Shootout or Heads-Up events. Players who “no-show” in Shootout or Heads-Up events will be blinded off with the exception of those who have pre-registered and failed to complete the registration process. Pre-registered players in Shootout or Heads-Up events will be picked up after level two

From WSOP rules:

http://www.wsop.com/2011/2011-WSOP-RULES.pdf

And i would have a free week in the best Las Vegas Hotel with 10K cash.

I will be out of Lisbon tomorrow, but next Tuesday, i will make that and post here, and probably the recorded conversation also. Thanks

bit harsh
1. he has a medical report
2. He played the qualifier probably knowing the rules, if he was looking to make $10k he is far more likely to just play a gar. mtt.
3. accusing someone of faking a illness is so risky, be carefull with that

I'd be more sympathetic to the OP if he weren't so blindingly stupid and oblivious.

Your "what about 2007?" question has been answered, but you keep banging on it. NOTHING that happened in 2007 matters in any way whatsoever. NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER. You sound like an idiot every time you ignore that it doesn't matter and try to pretend it does. You CHOSE to wait four days before following up. YOUR FAULT. Your moronically blather about them "transferring" the ticket, then you claim it's non-transferable, but you're too ****ing dumb to realize that is NON-TRANSFERABLE BY YOU, not THEM.

In short, you deliberately ignore any info that doesn't essentially tell you "yes OP, you absolutely deserve your money", even though every single idiot telling you that is patently wrong, and you CLEARLY have no idea what the T&C MEANS, despite being (marginally) capable of reading it.

But the worst part is the raw, unbridled petulance and childishness of the masses that are accusing Titan of being "thieves" (lol), "scummy" (what kind of scumbag site clearly lays out the rules and then follows them, MY GOD SOOOOOOO SCUMMY) and so on.

You don't deserve squat OP, and anyone who says otherwise needs to stop breast feeding and grow up.

there's a legal term called precedent... learn it or stfu

Yeah, there's another one called "irrelevant".

Don't bother trying to learn about it, just stfu.

"the raw, unbridled petulance and childishness of the masses that are accusing Titan "

That really bothered you I see.

Open in Oct of 2011, 2 posts. Hi Titans employee?

About 2007, question was not aswered, but probably you, better than everone else can answer. The first answer titan gave it to me was that the T&C in 2007 and 2011 were not the same.
After i sent them the 2007 T&C, they changed their answer to: in 2007 it was a third part involved.
So maybe you can explain what do you mean for third part involved, and why did they lied in first place?
And yes, there was a precedent, and i dont think it is irrelevant.

Sucks man, hope you get your money back!

HA, well spoken sir, not sure if I agree but well spoken anyway

It is irrelevant if they could of not paid him if they wanted and for some reason made an exception (maybe he rakes 200K a year and they didn't want to lose him). Maybe management has changed and they decieded to stop giving exceptions cause of cost.

Just because they make an exception to the t&c doesn't make it the new t&c.

o hai titan shill

at least learn to read before splattering your verbal diarrhea itt

and since you don't have the balls to quote me, please go ahead and explain how titan's policy is really anything short of theft. OP wins seat to main event, doesn't make it to collect the buyin/play the tournament, so titan keeps the cash for themselves and says sorry OP, we keep your money because our policy says we can.

Did they keep the cash for themselves or transfer the seat?

I am confused, since there was talk of the seat being transferred when non-transferable (which is obviously only the play not the site).

If the site indeed pocketed the 10K (and didn't lose it to WSOP or something, it is actually more than 10 with the rake on the buyin right?) then that is a story. It is theft from all the players what played in the mtt's for it.

The first information i had from WSOP was that they sent it the 10K to Titan. After that i called Titan where they told me they could not give me the money or other tournment because that money went to WSOP prize pool.
So i insisted with WSOP and after they searched and talked with their account department, they sent me a email saying that my ticket was changed to another player by Titans request in site, at the last minute.
I asked WSOP who is this player, but they did not want to give me that information.
I called Titan again and they keep saying the money went to WSOP prize pool until i confront them with the WSOP information i had, and they changed all the arguments, it was ipoker money, not mine or players money, very confused arguments. But you will have the opportunity to listen all of this when i post here the phone conversation

i am skeptical that titan or any other site would take OP's buyin money and just give it away to somebody else at the last second when OP doesn't show up to collect, instead of just keeping the cash. i mean what, do they organize a last second $1200 9 man sng and award the seat to the winner? bubble boy of OP's tournament just happens to be hanging out nearby? site staff/manager/exec plays instead? play eeny meeny miny mo with everyone in the registration area? lol

the most reasonable thing to believe, until proven otherwise, is that titan kept that $10k.

so basically buyin reassigned to another player (as we would expect). In which case the money from the prize pool has been spent on the players.

You can't expect them to tell you which player.

Yes, the money was spent on another player. But who is this player? Why do they use the players money to buy any player they want to WSOP. As far as we know they could registering any friend or Titan manager to play WSOP with players money, and when i say players money i mean all the players who played the satellite. That money do not belong to Titan, we are not talking about a sponsor, to qualified to WSOP i had to pay $535, like everyone else who played the satellite.

next time get on the plane imo

I would if they let me, i guess you did not read all the post

karmas a bitch

Grunch

Why is this still going on?

I'm still not sure how you feel entitled to anything at all. Tough **** that someone got a break at your expense. The TOS are plain as day, and you didn't abide by them. Sometimes life isn't fair.

Buck up, and take it like a man.