Hi OP and/or OPs friend ^^^^

madness, this is basicly an angle shoot on titans behalf, scumbags!

Yes, one of my backers

scumbafs

At least they could give you the EPT Barcelona now in August. They usually are there with their team...Gl manero! hope those mfs pay you!

Agreed with most posts in this thread.

Yes there were T & C's but if someone has a legitimate reason for not being able to make it (i.e medical reason) and they are not out money as a site at least work something out.

I know I won't be playing any satellites on Titan in the Future if this is not rectified

Yes, I never said they should give cash, obviously they have incentives to have someone use their money to play more poker, whether it be in the WSOP main event, or on their website. They should offer T$ or tickets to the next WSOP ME.

A couple of things...
1) The WSOP does not accept buy-in money from any of the online sites. Sites use 'licensed' companies to do the buy-ins for them.
2) Whether the licensed company provides refunds on cancelled buy-ins to the site is part of their pre-arranged agreement (it is also part of the agreement beween Harrahs and the company). I don't know who Titan uses, or what their agreement is, but it's not out of the question that Titan didn't did not receive the buy-in money back.

To the poster that compared this with Oktoberfest (PartyPoker), that's a completely different situation. With an event like that, the total cost is committed upfront, there are no refunds possible.

amazing how titan handle this situtation, 10k means nothing for a poker site..sad that titan takes so less consideration of their custumers, if the guy was a midstakes regular maybe titan choose a diferent soluction, but unfortunately for him he represent nothing for titan in terms of rake, sad decision of titan...

The WSOP did not accept any third party buy-ins this year. I was told this at the wsop cage.

5. Third-party registrations for players are not permitted unless submitted by official WSOP sponsors; official WSOP promotional partners, or official WSOP product licensees. No third-party registrations will be accepted from online gaming sites conducting business with U.S. residents. For more information regarding third-party entries please contact Daniel Vogel by email at dvogel@caesars.com

from WSOP rules: http://www.wsop.com/2011/2011-WSOP-RULES.pdf

And i posted in the first page of this post the email i received from Titan and WSOP

So if i did not received the money to register myself and the registation was made, who paid the registation

2007 was eons ago as far as poker rules and regulations go. Comparing 2011 to 2007 is ludicrous.

I'm finding it difficult after reading this quote why you feel you are entitled to anything at all????

I agree, douchey move by Titan, but in all reality, they "owe" you nothing.

PS, I hope you feel better.

FACT
WillHill Popker ran some "TBL-Like promo".
They Bought 20 ppl/winners into the last 1k of the series.

WillHill Popker did not buy them in. Someone bought them in for WillHill Popker.

So Harrah's does do business with certain "licensed" third party sites even though they state otherwise? Curious now why all the major sites wouldn't use this method you describe.

Edit: I re-read the rule, so I guess I have my answer, but it still seems a little weird.

I think this move was cold-hearted and just tells you something about Titan's character. OP definitely had unusual circumstances and Titan could have accomodated this seemingly reasonable request.

Technically, they may not be obligated to refund the player's buy-in (or offer a buy-in for the 2012 WSOP). In fact, one might argue they have a fidicuary responsibly NOT to refund OP's buy-in. Businesses exist to maximize shareholder value. That being said, the negative press this type of situation generates is not without its own liability. There are a hell of a lot of players with heart disease, breathing problems, panic disorders, and other health problems; these players may be highly sympathetic to OP's plight. I expect this type of behavior from a shady site like Cake Poker.

Pay the man his ****ING money.

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Now you really screwed yourself.... LOL.

If in fact they received a 10K refund what they have done is extremely scummy. If they are out 10K then I think you might be as well. Can you prove in writing that they got their money back?

I think Titan owes him the money if they don't want to be considered untrustworthy scumbags. Reputation is more and more important in online poker, see how players have gotten screwed by UB/AP/FT, and see how much business they ever get again.

Stuff like this is just hints of how management really feels about their customers. Just putting that qualifier in means they'd rather screw you any chance they get, so don't be just surprised if Titan users someday find a surprise in the fine print of the T&Cs when they try to cash out or spend some VIP points.

UB/AP/FT/Cake

now Titan

Why does anyone play anywhere other than PokerStars?

Point of clarification...the third party companies I am referring to are not gaming companies. They are event/hosting companies that are "licensed" to do bulk buy-ins for their clients.

Harrah's is not doing any business with gaming sites.

First off, it absolutely sucks what happened, and I sincerely hope you're feeling much better now. Having said that, they don't owe you a damn thing. It's very clearly laid out in the T&C. Play or you give it up. That's not to say that they SHOULDN'T do something for you to garner some goodwill, "doing the right thing" and all that.. But they don't really HAVE to.

Hope you get something out of them though.

But, you see, they really do have to. They're going to lose far more than 10k because of this.

This is not ok even if it's stated in the t&c that that's the way it is.

The prize money in these tournaments belong to the players - not to the site. The site has already been paid via the rake, they have no right to the rest of the money.

For them to just keep prize money that belong to players is theft. And I really do hope that if this t&c was challenged in any reasonable court of law, it would not hold up.
Of course, it won't be - but that doesn't mean it's fine just because it says so in the t&c.

First post, July 11...Hi OP.


The situation is unfortunate but that's the way it is. If you can't fly because of illness then its not the Titans fault, unlucky.

What actually happened to the money? we're you registered anyway and just blinded down from the ME?

Hi, i did not wrote that(if thats what you are saying) Moderators can confirm that i think.

I am not saying its Titan fault, i am just showing how they operate, and how they treat their players in different ways and only use their T&C on their own benefict.

I did not blinded down from the ME, if i did i would be a "no shows" and could withdraw the money in the wsop cage

15.
Any player who has not taken a hand by the start of the third level will be considered a “no show.” These players will have their chips removed from play and will not be eligible to participate in that event. The buy-ins for “no shows” will be removed from the prize pool and placed on safekeeping in that player’s name at the Main WSOP Registration cage after the second level of play. All funds placed on safekeeping due to no shows must be claimed prior to July 19th, 2011. Funds not claimed on or before that date shall be forfeited to Rio and shall not be refunded for any reason whatsoever. This rule does not apply to Shootout or Heads-Up events. Players who “no-show” in Shootout or Heads-Up events will be blinded off with the exception of those who have pre-registered and failed to complete the registration process. Pre-registered players in Shootout or Heads-Up events will be picked up after level two

From WSOP rules:

http://www.wsop.com/2011/2011-WSOP-RULES.pdf

That money was refunded to the third part, to whom made the payment.