would Chainsaw take the poy lead if he wins?

Only if he wins.

Al Barbieri moves into the lead with a win, while Michael Chow could take the lead himself with a 2nd place finish and neither Kessler or Barbieri win.

Well, at least now nobody will ever have to listen to him berate them or give lessons again, because he's going to get very tired of watching someone wave him away while muttering "4567 utg PLO8, now ON YOUR BIKE!"

meh everyone complains about razz. Even those who are good at it.

Perfect wasn't the right choice of words. Before that hand I had literally sat out for almost an hour. I was playing on my image.

People usually assume I have a bad a2 or a3 when I limp early. I had limped early position with a crappy hand and hit a fairly good flop for it.

I hit the flop strong and wanted weak low draws to fold if I hit my straight. That's why I bet out.

I'm considered one of the top o8 tourney players out there. This one hand is insignificant.

For rzitup to call me one of the weaker players in mixed events is unwarranted, especially when his results speak for themselves(17 total cashes in 10 years of grinding).

Gl Allen! Ship the 600 large!

AK needs his own dedicated thread imo.

Who else is in this category? What is your worst event?

Worst game is limit holdem, best games stud 8 and o8. played these games for 10years in ac. Usually 75 150 or 100 200.

Ummm, half the time you hit your coveted straight, it is the 3rd nut at best and you still need to fade the river.

The other half, you are almost always chopping, getting quartered, losing to a redraw or getting counterfeited.

All of this from UTG, where most mere mortals are check-calling and seeing what might come on the turn (asuming they had some sort of vision and played the hand in the first place)? Nobody is folding the nut low draw when you bet the flop, and with that much going on, most aren't folding A3, so you're saying you bet the flop to fold whatever raggedy OTHER low draws are out there? Is it my imagination, or are you getting raised, ummm, a LOT when you bet out there? In that case, you're in a terrible spot.

I mean no disrespect, honestly.

But I just can't see that you can reconcile this hand as "insignificant" in light of being a self-proclaimed "top 08 tourney player."

I could be wrong; that happens a lot.

I just can't see where I might be wrong here.

Once I played this crappy hand I have to bet out to get hands like 7 10xx or A5xx, a4xx to fold.

If u play an a5 or a4 nothing on that flop with people betting and overcalling its a losing play.

but why the **** do you play the hand in the first place?

allen - why are you so insecure?

I am not a PLO regular but everyone here rips AK for being a nit. Then he plays a weak hand utilizing his very deserved image as a tight player and we rip him for that also.

We can not have it both ways.

Lotta guys playing 7 10 xx there in the 10K HORSE event?

That leaves betting to fold out essentially A4 and A5, weighed out against the downside of getting raised very often and almost always having no better than a check-call on the turn. THAT sounds like a losing play.

I don't mean to beat it to death, but unless you're playing at some level with which I am totally unfamiliar (which I doubt), it just sounds like a bad play in every regard, and not the sort of playing I would expect from "a top O8 tourney player," seriously.

I don't know. It's just sticking in my craw for some reason. I'll let it go.

Good luck, really.

You may be surprised to find that people who claim to be good at poker often are not.

chainsaw delivers unintentionally

i love it

+1

Can't believe all this commotion over a lousy hand I decided to play after id basically sat out the entire level.

I guess that explains this disaster...

Hold'em

Richard Ashby raised under the gun, Allen Kessler flatted, and the small blind joined them. The flop fell {q-Diamonds}{8-Diamonds}{5-Clubs}, and after the small blind checked, Ashby bet. Kessler raised, the small blind folded, and Ashby called. He went back to betting on the {2-Diamonds} turn, and Kessler just called this time. After the {9-Hearts} on the river, Ashby checked.

When Kessler bet, Ashby knew he was in trouble. "Do you have queens or aces?" Ashby decided he was willing to pay the bet to see Chainsaw's cards. Kessler showed {q-Clubs}{q-Spades} for top set as Ashby predicted. Somehow Kessler's loose preflop call had been rewarded with a suckout against Ashby's {k-Diamonds}{k-Hearts}. You just can't beat Kessler this summer now that he's opened up his game.

With this hand, Kessler moved up to 410k and took over the chip lead. Ashby dropped down to 250k.

.....but not this one......

I stepped out of line one hand with 4567

If o8 is one of your best games, why would you ever step out of line??? Or are you a tilter? Yeah, that's what it is, isn't it? You were card dead and sick of it, so you decided to limp utg with a bag of ****. Tilting is bad, K-dog. Very, very bad.

Ask your buddy about riding mid pairs to 7th street in stud 8 vs scary low or ace hi boards.

This is far worse than playing 4567 one suit and betting it out on a favorable flop.

People ripping on chainz about how he played one hand is pathetic. He is in the running for player of the year. Gratz chainsaw on your success and good luck.

You have now resorted to the "Well, he sucks worse than me" defense. This has exciting implications and I look forward to reading your future posts.

+1 Good luck.

Fair warning AK if you muck a winner at showdown like Phil Ivey did in last years main event the 2+2 servers will crash from all the traffic.