guess these guys maybe overdid it a little on the advertisement/promotion part

I think its kind of a cool promotion. How awesome would it be to have your job be to play poker tournys? and you are just sponsored and it doesn't matter if you win? pretty cool.

I would apply if you didn't have to be 21.

this times a million

lol if you think that it's reasonable/standard to expect such ventures to show profit after the first year.. with a lot of these guys I'm guessing they aim to break even over the first 2 years and start turning profit after that

and almost none of us here are in a position to have any idea of what sort of contract the skins and network operators have drawn up.

sorry, i didnt know this. this is good to know.

Goddamn, VP's accountant/investors must be worried at all this startup cash being flushed down the ****ter.

Wonder how long it'll be (if ever lol) before VP is profitable?

We did!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...tables-765406/

Cheers,
Chris

I've said it elsewhere but Victory should really consider switching from Everleaf to Merge asap. Everleaf has nothing going on at the moment and people are discouraged from playing there as there's no player liquidity, however Merge is booming and RPM went from 0 to being probably the biggest skin on the network almost immediately with comparatively little promotion.

Dunno how much it would cost, know that Microgaming skins were at one time selling for $25k a pop so I presume it'd be something in the region of 25-50k but it beats sinking more money into a promoting a site that isn't going to take off on its current network.

i actually joined merge not that long ago for 35% rakeback and they deposit it nightly. pretty sweet and although the software is a step down, i still enjoy it.

Thank you mrrpb, I've discussed the Everleaf decision in the sponsored support forum.
The decision ended up being correct since we're on week 11 and if you'll notice from PokerScout.com stats below, we have more players online then Merge right this second and both our networks are directly behind Bodog & Betfair.

Everleaf has worked hard with my staff & I to keep improving on all of your inputs.
I do appreciate the honest feedback whether it's good or bad so we can continue our journey down the right path. We'll never make "everybody" happy, but neither does the other sites or any brand in any business category for that matter.

The Euro rake situation was fixed as well as the 19 pro's on the team have submitted many upgrades and ideas to go along with the help of the TwoplusTwo community.

This sponsorship contest that we're running is 1 aspect of the many ways that we're going to do things different then other sites and make people feel like they can be apart of something. I cant compete with FT/Stars multi-zillion dollar advertising campaign but I have had 450% more sign-ups then anticipated and enough capital to never go broke. We're here to stay and to make a good impact on the overall poker world.

I truly appreciate the brains of the TwoplusTwo community.
I wish you all continued success in poker and in life.

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Last Update Players Online Cash Players / 24 Hr Peak / 7 Day Avg

15 Bodog • Apr 29 11:44 AM 627 / 1352 / 760
16 Betfair Poker • Apr 29 11:54 AM 1166 / 1428 / 670
17 Merge • Apr 29 11:43 AM 622 / 1021 / 550
18 Everleaf* • Apr 29 11:35 AM 668 / 737 / 435

Cheers Dan

real sick dan. i think VP has a huge upside and could push Everleaf to the next level.

i def like where the site is going but can you guys please fix the deposit problems with the credit cards.

Regardless of any problems with this site, I think its fantastic that the CEO is actively communicating with and responding to players thoughts- as Dan said himself this can only be a good thing for poker- great example for other sites

Sick vid and nice contest.

that's what that 00:44 is ldo

From the site talking about the software...

"Did you get a bad deal? Do you want to change your dealer? Want to let off some steam?

"Dealer Push" - Just shove that dealer off the table! We won't kick you out... We'll just give you a new dealer. Still not satisfied? No problem. You've got 4 dealers to choose from."


FAIL!


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Since the contest has gone live we've create it's own thread in the sponsored section. More info and any questions can be answered by going to http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...ontest-771779/

-Executive Producer

Thanks everybody, 25 people will be chosen and flown out from all over the world and then we'll film the whole process and narrow it down to 1 winner,,, kind of like "The Apprentice" or "The Ultimate Fighter" but for Poker : )

Hey man, do you mind telling the song of the promotional video ? thx !

the first song.

"Wolf like me" is the song.
TV on the Radio is the name of the artist.

There's some cool music in the modeling video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI1-rP4C7Uc

No the situation is not fixed. They put in a low number of 3euro cap tables which the skins get to voluntarily opt into if they want. Minted poker hasn't, and I can't see why the skins who pushed for the 5 euro cap would want to have these tables show up in their lobby either.

You're making progress in the rake situation but having 1 or 2 3E Victory Poker only tables at each limit does not make it "fixed".

I mean, no offence, but as a CEO isn't your first image pretty important? ever thought of getting adjustments for your teeth?

I meant too say the first song starting at 1:00 in the video posted on the first page of the thread.
Nice sexy video anyway lol !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u0n1jzSg-8

Really bro?