Wow that makes his fold 1000 times worse wtfff lol

I always cite the Brunson fold and Hellmuth raise/folding QQ as examples of how an old-school player's reliance on live reads can betray him. Brunson spoke about that hand on PokerRoad Radio back in the day.

Bart Hanson broke down the action in the interview: Doyle had T8 late, Jamie had 97 UTG. Limped, six-handed pot. Flop came down K4J with $8K in the pot. Action checks to Doyle, who bets $6K. Everyone folds except for Jamie, who calls. Pot is now $20K.

Turn is the A. Jamie checks, Doyle bets $25K, Jamie raises to $125K. Doyle thinks for a bit, then folds.

Not for nothing, that interview ends with one of my favorite Gavin Smith quotes from PRR: "I just called Doyle Brunson 'bro,' how cool is that??"

The Hellmuth preflop fold with QQ is another such case. He was up against an amateur qualifier, Paul Featherstone. Hellmuth raises, Featherstone shoves, then (if memory serves) goes into a spot-on Hellmuth impersonation, which he did a few times at that table.

Featherstone had AQ, and shoved with the confidence of someone who rates to have the better hand. Hellmuth's white magic clearly picked up on that confidence, and it got him to fold reluctantly. Any time he speaks about his reading ability, Hellmuth talks in terms of the binary states of "weak or strong," and the mathematical side of poker gets tossed out the window. Forget stack sizes and ranges, I think his brain devolves into "kid weak, must call" or "kid strong, must fold."

I've sometimes wondered: as Hellmuth tanked, did Featherstone grow even more assured this his AQ was in good shape, which in turn convinced Hellmuth that his own hand was beaten?

Oh dammit, with all that typing, I forgot to post what I meant to ask: what are the all-time craziest folds that happened to be correct (if you're being results-oriented, that is)?

Two that come to mind immediately are the Thi Nguyen vs. Athanasios Polychronopoulos hand that Doug Polk broke down here...



...and the JJ river fold on an AJKTT at the 6:55 mark here:



There was also the folded quads in the One Drop event a while back, but I don't remember if we ever found out for sure what John Morgan had.

Galfond on HSP folding a set. Ivey's reaction is great

Thank you for posting the specifics of that hand. I mean, Doyle is 1000x the player I will ever be, but his reasoning just seems so flawed/1st level here ...

1. Ok, so Gold seems super confident, but even a super confident idiot is still first and foremost an idiot, ie he will most likely overestimate the value of his hand unless

2. he actually has us beat, which seems super unlikely, given that he would probably check-raise hands like QJss, QTss, Q9ss or JTss (edit: oh wait, what's more, we even block two of those) on the flop and even Jamie Gold most likely wouldn't limp those hands UTG in the first place, but

3. even if he does have this type of hand, this isn't actually a 500k decision, given that the pot will only be $270k if Doyle calls on the turn, many cards will slow down the action on the river and Gold isn't just going to overbet jam on the river (this being 2007 or 2008 and Gold being Gold). My best guess is he actually would have bet well below pot even on a perfect river card.

Worst fold ever...Michael Cera (playing Tobey Maguire) gets opponent to lay down the nuts on the river. Second worst is in the same movie when Bill Camp (playing Houston) folds to "Bad Brad" with FH.

Worst folds I've seen on TV:

Jungleman vs Hellmuth in a heads up match:

https://www.pokerlistings.com/poker-...ungleman-70608

Guy who folded quads in the one drop. Whether or not his opponent actually had the straight flush isn't really relevant. You can't be folding quads when you're trying to win a tournament and there's only one combo you lose to.

Let`s wait for a better spot to call off against one of the best in the world.

Obviously you find a lot "words" folds, but this one always stuck with me. Negreanu was a beast at the time, definitely one of the best in that tournament. Imagine having the chance to call of having the change to knock him out getting that great prize with pair + flushdraw and folding.


https://youtu.be/TZ_OMzHWvv0?t=1451

Edit: Some issues sharing the youtube clip.

2010s Juanda: I had trips

2020 Juanda: I had quads

2:35:54

$10,300 Super Millions, $454,000 for 1st, 7th place finish is worth $96,000, 6th place gets $124,000, 4 players have < 10bb stacks.

UTG (around 50bb) minraises, SB (around 30bb) reraises, you're in the BB with a 9bb stack holding AKo and ... (Your average buy-in is like $5k over 100 MTT, so you shouldn't be scared money).

No idea how she folds this. Should’ve retired from poker after this.

IsnÂ’t this a close ICM foldÂ…multiple people shorter than you 3-bet pot with big stacks involved and winning the pot wonÂ’t make you commanding chip leaderÂ…

4 players basically have the same stack. It's not like one player is sitting with 0,5bb. I wouldn't have made this post if that was the case.

Well he is getting zero fold equity. With the huge differences between the big stacks and the 4 small stacks, he probably doesn't feel like flipping for his tourney life. If he knew it was against Ax, would for sure call, but figured it was a coin flip.

In a WSOP poker tournament, on a board of AKTJQ rainbow, the final round betting went allin, allin, and Beth Shack then folded.
In a 3-6 limit omaha hi game online, I had A479 in bb vs sb. Board came AAA, He bet $3 and I folded. I was new to the game and knew you needed 2 cards out of your hand and 3 on board, so I did not have a pair in my hand for a full house so I put him on a pair for a full, so I folded not realizing A9 made me quads.

Maria Ho's fold has to be top5 worst folds of all time

AA on the button preflop?

what happened in the hand?

i'm in sweden and have to either give up my credit card details or send in a photo of my license in order to confirm i am of age to watch the video. no thanks, google.

what about VPN?

it goes raise, flat, three bet, she takes two to the face, everyone to the flop for like 125k each, then the originally three bettor jams the flop for a cool millie. flop is JT8 w/ three hearts, the Ho has TTT. i think it's a clear flop call but I don't think it's anywhere near the worst fold in the world.

That Eastgate fold on hsp with three of a kind against dwans q high

Ivey mucking a flush in the main event.

wtf kind of laws you got over there damn

In the pad ep with Dan Bilz, 2 guys mucked the best hand (2 different hands) on the river when it was checked down because they misread their cards

One was particularly bad, the nba player or the rapper not sure had 8d9d calls flop on 5d7d2x he leads brick turn river is 3d and it goes check/check , opponent shows mid pair or something and he mucks his flush lol

yeah played around with it in HRC and while at equilibrium its very close in EV (still always a jam) against more realistic frequencies and ranges its always a jam..