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07-24-2021 , 07:37 PM

greebo

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I would love to take an online video poker course aimed toward intermediate players, but I'm almost completely deaf. Does anyone know of online video courses being offered which have subtitles or closed captions? Clearly a skype or other one-on-one course wouldn't work for me, but a professional whose videos include subtitles might be just the ticket.

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07-25-2021 , 04:00 AM

rdedrde1

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I’m not trying to take the piss but if there is no way of utilising poker training videos due to your lack of hearing, can you try to learn the game by only watching the videos and then researching the related theory from other material eg books, forums, a coach who is happy to converse with you in email format etc?

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07-25-2021 , 02:28 PM

Paper Tigers

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Hi, there are actually some decent videos on YouTube that you will be able to watch with closed captions on.

The '6-Max Cash Game Guide with Pete Clarke' is a ten-part course aimed at intermediate players. It's a pretty solid course for learning the fundamentals. Basically it's like a simpler and not so thorough version of his 'From the Ground Up' series on Run It Once which costs $50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuqM...kerStarsSchool

If you're after something a bit more advanced there are loads of excellent play and explain videos from 500z crusher Jarretman.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Seirnflow26/videos

I hope this was helpful, best of luck.

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07-25-2021 , 02:41 PM

Dr. Meh

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I would also recommend the YouTube route since, as I’m sure you know, they have the CC option you can utilize.

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07-25-2021 , 03:43 PM

TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

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I also recommend the YT route because CCing.

IIRC, Upswing had subtitles put on the first educa cash course because people couldn't understand his english well. I dont think it is sold anymore, and I recall the feedback generally being negative, but you could look into that.

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07-25-2021 , 09:25 PM

greebo

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Thank you all very much. It's too bad Upswing did away with subtitles, as I like the looks of their courses the best. I'll try some of the other suggestions.

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07-25-2021 , 09:27 PM

greebo

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Originally Posted by Paper Tigers

Great reference! Many thanks.

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07-26-2021 , 07:42 AM

jukofyork

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If you Google for it then I wouldn't be surprised if there is some free tool to auto-caption videos for you (ala YouTube's "automatic" translation option). Even if it's not perfect it will likely be enough to understand what's being said.

Juk

PS: If there isn't then there is surely a gap in the market for this sort of thing; screen readers have been available for blind people for years.

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07-27-2021 , 09:13 AM

greebo

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Originally Posted by jukofyork

There are dictation machines and apps which transform spoken word into text. The docs in the ER where I used to work used them all the time, most notably the Kurtzweil apparatus, but the machine is geared toward medical terminology and you have to personally input the spoken word. I'll do some research. Meanwhile I'll take a look at some of the YouTube courses. Thanks again.

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08-09-2021 , 04:48 PM

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2021shipit

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Why not just message a poker training site? I'm sure they'd be willing to accommodate you.

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08-09-2021 , 05:41 PM

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SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by 2021shipit

Why not just message a poker training site? I'm sure they'd be willing to accommodate you.

Unfortunately, transcription is expensive and incredibly tedious. You would lose money doing this to make one sale.

YouTube captions are also not a great option. Have you guys ever really used that feature? Large channels will sometimes upload human-transcribed subtitles to be used, but most videos use auto-generated captions and they're TERRIBLE.

Here's a supercut I made of it butchering Doug Polk's name. These aren't even cherry-picked, you can see that the dates are chronological

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08-09-2021 , 06:03 PM

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Dr. Meh

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

But it’s better than nothing. And a free plug for Dug Pool Care.

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08-09-2021 , 06:35 PM

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Dick Tracy

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I've provided subtitles for videos professionally and it's a lot easier / faster than one might think, especially with experience... but it is indeed very monotonous.

Providing it to footage with thick accents and no transcript can be an adventure.

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08-09-2021 , 06:56 PM

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HotChips

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

Its way too tedious for Upswing Poker to cater for people with disabilities?

You sound like a complete Moran here

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08-09-2021 , 07:13 PM

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SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by HotChips

Its way too tedious for Upswing Poker to cater for people with disabilities?

You sound like a complete Moran here

I meant that it's tedious for the person doing the transcribing. I used to do transcription work, it really sucked!

But yeah I don't think I'd spend $1,000 to transcribe a course just to sell it to one person for $99. Would you?

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08-09-2021 , 07:20 PM

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Dick Tracy

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It would also be for all future hearing impaired customers, not just the one guy in the present.

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08-09-2021 , 07:41 PM

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ejames209

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It doesn't matter if the companies would lose money transcribing. We need to be inclusive to all people

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08-09-2021 , 07:59 PM

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SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy

It would also be for all future hearing impaired customers, not just the one guy in the present.

There's also certainly a case to be made for it being useful to foreign language customers and hence viable. I don't know what the demand is for that, but it could be reasonable.

I was just responding to the person who thinks it's a trivial thing to ask for and super easy to do for one person if they just ask lol

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08-09-2021 , 08:19 PM

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2021shipit

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

1000$? The kanu course is 36 hours. Pay some kid 10 bucks an hour to transcribe it and it'll cost 300$ max. Can be off the books. Then you're making AT LEAST a few hundred dollar profit. And the best thing is, the customer would never ever consider purchasing the course without transcription

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08-09-2021 , 10:46 PM

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Dr. Meh

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Originally Posted by ejames209

It doesn't matter if the companies would lose money transcribing. We need to be inclusive to all people

Maybe you can volunteer to transcribe for free.

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08-09-2021 , 11:00 PM

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filmbuff

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It's actually a legal requirement in Canada that all videos be captioned, because accessibility shouldn't be optional for content providers. I will be launching bundles soon for beginning to intermediate players and they will all be captioned. I look forward to getting all the business from disabled players because I'm not an inconsiderate, greedy ******* and I care about everyone having access to all materials.

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08-09-2021 , 11:33 PM

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gregorio

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I don't think it's a legal requirement for private sector organizations with less than 50 employees.

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08-09-2021 , 11:37 PM

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Dick Tracy

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

I was just responding to the person who thinks it's a trivial thing to ask for and super easy to do for one person if they just ask lol

The comment below you is like that. Paying someone $10/hr to not only transcribe the audio, but also use proper grammar and be able to apply the transcription to video properly? lol

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Originally Posted by filmbuff

It's actually a legal requirement in Canada that all videos be captioned, because accessibility shouldn't be optional for content providers.

That can’t be enforced on the worldwide web or with independently non-broadcasted material on a privately owned non-Canadian website.

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08-10-2021 , 01:27 AM

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SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by 2021shipit

The kanu course is 36 hours. Pay some kid 10 bucks an hour to transcribe it and it'll cost 300$ max.

You think it takes 30 hours to type out 36 hours of audio? Really?

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08-10-2021 , 03:51 AM

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Odysseus

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Originally Posted by ejames209

It doesn't matter if the companies would lose money transcribing. We need to be inclusive to all people

Great idea! Feel free to contact all the poker coaching sites and volunteer your time to transcribe, their catalogue of videos. SUPPORT INCLUSIVITY!

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