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07-29-2021 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Maybe you just stay far away from that thread, that should be best for everyone involved.
Discussing real information isn't allowed then I take it? Should probably stay away from 2+2 entirely considering I can't even post "what's the problem?" (with stars helping someone that is punting equity) but then you weirdos win. Nothing like volunteer mods on a poker forum attempting to be the arbiters of truth and targeting anyone that questions them.
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07-29-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
Are we allowed to talk about how Dr. Fauci said the vaccinated are capable of spreading covid at the same rate as the unvaccinated or is that not allowed by the 2+2 moderators that have PHD's in the medical field? How about discussing docs directly from the CDC that show the PCR tests were fraudulent and causing false positives and were denied EUA by the FDA for not being able to distinguish between covid and the flu?
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
Discussing real information isn't allowed then I take it? Should probably stay away from 2+2 entirely considering I can't even post "what's the problem?" (with stars helping someone that is punting equity) but then you weirdos win. Nothing like volunteer mods on a poker forum attempting to be the arbiters of truth and targeting anyone that questions them.
bruh who are you and who made you like this
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07-29-2021 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedMoreManasi
bruh who are you and who made you like this
I asked a simple question. Should real information that impacts peoples decisions to play or not play a tournament/ cancel a tournament not be discussed? I mean really....... it's not like this is a forum for little kids, we're all adults and should be capable of ignoring stupid posts that aren't based in reality. You're aware "trusting the science" means trusting the scientific method which is questioning the science or they didn't teach that at 2+2 mod school?
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07-29-2021 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
I asked a simple question. Should real information that impacts peoples decisions to play or not play a tournament/ cancel a tournament not be discussed? I mean really....... it's not like this is a forum for little kids, we're all adults and should be capable of ignoring stupid posts that aren't based in reality. You're aware "trusting the science" means trusting the scientific method which is questioning the science or they didn't teach that at 2+2 mod school?
sry yeah I'm still a freshman at mod school so I'm a bit rusty but I'm PRETTY sure your posts don't seem to fall under that category
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07-29-2021 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedMoreManasi
sry yeah I'm still a freshman at mod school so I'm a bit rusty but I'm PRETTY sure your posts don't seem to fall under that category
What posts? I asked a question here I'm not talking about any particular posts besides the "What's the problem?" (with stars helping a player not punt off $10K) that got me a 25 point infraction because some mod doesn't like me.

I was looking for clarification that factual information directly from the CDC and Dr. Fauci isn't allowed to be posted so I don't get another pointless ban. Maybe 2nd year mod school gets more in depth on reading and science.
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07-29-2021 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
Are we allowed to talk about how Dr. Fauci said the vaccinated are capable of spreading covid at the same rate as the unvaccinated or is that not allowed by the 2+2 moderators that have PHD's in the medical field? How about discussing docs directly from the CDC that show the PCR tests were fraudulent and causing false positives and were denied EUA by the FDA for not being able to distinguish between covid and the flu?
The vaccinated may have similar viral load if they catch covid, but they still catch even delta covid at a much lower rate than the unvaccinated. So no the vaccinated don't spread covid at the same rate as unvaccinated, because they're far less likely to have covid.

You're confusing transmissibility with efficacy + transmissibility. At least get your facts straight if you're going to shitpost all over the place.

No idea about the PCR tests, but none of this BS matters in the big picture - which is that 99% of in the hospital and dying of covid right now, in every country, are unvaccinated. So what you're doing is just minimizing covid with pointless side arguments and spreading FUD.
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07-29-2021 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The vaccinated may have similar viral load if they catch covid, but they still catch even delta covid at a much lower rate than the unvaccinated. So no the vaccinated don't spread covid at the same rate as unvaccinated, because they're far less likely to have covid.

You're confusing viral load with efficacy + viral load. At least get your facts straight if you're going to shitpost all over the place.
May? Is Dr. Fauci now a liar? I thought Dr. Fauci WAS science? Do I need to post a video of him saying it or will that get me banned too? Why is it up to poker forum mods to determine what can and can't be talked about regarding subjects that none of us are experts in? Strange world. Not interested in a pointless back and forth here this isn't the case, just want clarification.

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07-29-2021 , 05:50 PM
The rules are relatively straightforward and should be simple to follow. They had to be put in place / reiterated to keep the thread civil.

Pretty sure there are threads in the politics forum or somewhere else where you can post that other stuff.
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07-29-2021 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
The rules are relatively straightforward and should be simple to follow. They had to be put in place / reiterated to keep the thread civil.

Pretty sure there are threads in the politics forum or somewhere else where you can post that other stuff.
You get banned there faster than NVG. I was asking for clarification because the wording used makes it seem like factual things worth discussing can't be posted because they may "seem" anti vax etc, when they may not actually be. Being anti vax and discussing the merits of new information being presented aren't quite the same. Happy to follow the rules, but they're not very clear.

I'd also like clarification why I was given 50 points worth of infractions for posting "What's the problem?" in the NVG thread about stars helping a player HU, which seems to be the same opinion as everyone else posting..... 1 mod gives me bans and infractions, that's it. Then comes here and trolls me when I ask about it.

Side not: I come to 2+2 because lots of smart people who think different things and know different things come here and discuss topics, impeding that ruins the site.
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07-29-2021 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
(This will also be posted in the WSOP thread.)

Mods have discussed the WSOP thread and have confirmed the following rules will be applied (basically these rules apply to all NVG threads):

1. Politics is forbidden

2. Covid-denial is forbidden

3. Anti-vaccine posting is forbidden

4. Posts about Covid are acceptable if the posts pertain to poker/WSOP and if they don't stray into personal attacks or any of the above three forbidden topics.

Also the title of the thread has been changed back to its original title.

Thank you
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07-29-2021 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
You get banned there faster than NVG. I was asking for clarification because the wording used makes it seem like factual things worth discussing can't be posted because they may "seem" anti vax etc, when they may not actually be. Being anti vax and discussing the merits of new information being presented aren't quite the same. Happy to follow the rules, but they're not very clear.

I'd also like clarification why I was given 50 points worth of infractions for posting "What's the problem?" in the NVG thread about stars helping a player HU, which seems to be the same opinion as everyone else posting..... 1 mod gives me bans and infractions, that's it. Then comes here and trolls me when I ask about it.

Side not: I come to 2+2 because lots of smart people who think different things and know different things come here and discuss topics, impeding that ruins the site.
I’m not a fan of yours. In fact, I only have two people on my ignore list and you’re one of them.

But I will say that I think you genuinely want to be part of this site still so, if you’ll listen, I’ll offer some advice.

Firstly, you’re free to think whatever you’d like about the mods but insulting them will certainly not end up in getting the result you’re looking for.

Secondly, the “bad posts” I see from you aren’t just about disagreeing with people. It’s the way you disagree. I have yet to see a post of yours where it’s a civil disagreement without insults and/or passive aggressive comments. I’m guilty of that as well from time to time as are most people here. But yours seem to be constant.

It would help if maybe you took some time to breathe and relax before submitting a post. Write it all out as emotionally as you want, then take a step back and disconnect the emotion from it. Then you can change the post before submitting it to make it less emotional and/or insulting.

Again, I know I’m guilty of the same thing but that’s how I’ve been trying to fix my posts. I’m genuinely trying to help you out here so I hope you don’t take this as an insult.
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07-29-2021 , 07:03 PM
Thank you for your post. I hope it is received in the spirit it was intended.

Over the last few years, NVG has been lightly moderated (even lighter than in the past). I would guess that less than a handful of posters were perma-banned during that time frame. That's not to say that people did not receive infractions (which are basically token warnings) or short temp-bans (which are basically more serious warnings). Infractions and temp-bans are issued reluctantly and often belatedly and only when the mods are trying to do what is in the best interests of the community.

Of course everyone, including mods, wants NVG to be a thriving community with many posters contributing to many thriving threads. This includes new posters as well as regulars.
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07-30-2021 , 03:25 AM
Ok
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07-31-2021 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
why do I lose my under title? I worked tirelessly one summer to earn the JellyBean.

And without notice I'm demoted to Poohbah. By my last breath, this will not stand.

Getting on a plane to Thailand as we speak. Gonna open up a can a whoop ass on first Russian I see on the beach.
I gave you that. Maybe I will change it to jellybitch.
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07-31-2021 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
1. Politics is forbidden
If politics is ever allowed in NVG I am going to run for office. Platform would be Make NVG Great Again.

Hello. There is a politics forum.
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08-14-2021 , 06:07 PM
OK why was the Marafioti thread deleted
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08-14-2021 , 06:20 PM
Because we don't let people claim "xyz is dead" without any kind of proof. If there's some, the thread can go back up.

FWIW, the article says "32 year old male" and the GPI profile for Matt Marafioti lists his DOB as 02/27/1988.
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08-14-2021 , 06:22 PM
Yea, I am not great on instagram but I didn't see whatever he was talking about on that link and I guess I clicked on some other link about another person that he posted. A google search didn't really turn up anything either.
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08-16-2021 , 05:27 PM
Umn, on August 16th at around 2:00-2:30 pm est , I made a reply in the high stakes poker spoiler thread that was posted initially as #1852 responding to Ivey No. 1 Fan (something of that name). His quote (#1851) mentioned having to sign up for PokerGo in order to see his favorite players on the new high stakes show. I responded you do NOT have to sign up to PokerGo. You can get the channel for free on Pluto tv app. He responded as simply saying thanks among some other brief words as post #1853.

Point is why were these posts deleted from thread? For the life of me, that post of mine along with his followup response were there earlier but a few hours later upon revisiting the thread, I do NOT see them there anymore. (Posts #1852 and #1853 are different from aforementioned) Why? What did I miss? I may be crazy but I am not that crazy (yet).

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08-16-2021 , 05:33 PM
Ivey fan earlier today just made my first ever added to the ignore list.
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08-16-2021 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Ivey fan earlier today just made my first ever added to the ignore list.
There is a first for everything. However, that does not address my issue.
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08-16-2021 , 05:41 PM
I'll take a guess that a mod thought that the Pluto TV app was an illegal way of circumventing PokerGo's fees (assuming they charge?). I had no idea what Pluto TV was until I Googled it - looks like it may be legit, but I'm not certain.

But that's just my guess. I'm sure an actual NVG mod will pop in and shed some light on this at some point.
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08-16-2021 , 05:45 PM
Pluto app if free and on my Cox cable box. There is a bunch of channels but I never use it. You can watch re-runs of the show cops on it still when that has been banned elsewhere. lol
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08-16-2021 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'll take a guess that a mod thought that the Pluto TV app was an illegal way of circumventing PokerGo's fees (assuming they charge?). I had no idea what Pluto TV was until I Googled it - looks like it may be legit, but I'm not certain.

But that's just my guess.
You don't have to guess. I am not a huge techie or anything but for sure, Pluto TV (I am not any affiliate or associated with it in anyway btw) is a legit,free tv app like Znyga is a free poker app on your phone etc.. They have free channels on there and the bulk of their money comes from advertising. I discovered Pokergo on there myself not too long ago so I was simply helping another since he did not know he could get it that way for free in a perfectly legit manner no doubt.
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08-16-2021 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Ivey fan earlier today just made my first ever added to the ignore list.
Ha, same here, took me awhile to figure out how to Ignore someone lol.
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