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Originally Posted by PTLou
I agree that "dont care " was a bit strong.
My main point is that as it relates to reasonable variations in rake, its impact on games is minimal.
It is the same as online. Sites/Operators are in competition with regs to convert new player buyins.
Operators convert to rake.
Regs convert to living expenses.
As a rec player, I'd rather have the former. Regs just take money out of economy. Nothing else.
News that they are needed to "start" games is way overblown in all but the extreme examples of starting niche low demand games, and/or high stakes and or in rooms struggling to get games. Those rooms should prob just close .
If they want to keep alive, they would make more money by just paying props and keeping rake high vs lower rake in an effort to cater to regs.
More profitable rooms = more opportuniy for rec attracting promos.
Which is better? rec attracting promos or a reg buying a new car?
Regs buying a new car is more important.
Poker is NOT an action game. Even 5 card PLO or fast paced limit game, compare them to the speed of blackjack or the social cheering of craps. If Poker is just about promos and recs can splash around, then it's pointless because other games do the degen and splash around much, much better.
Pretending like "the poker dream" of WINNING by playing +EV is irrelevant is dumb, movies like Rounders and the Moneymaker story got popular because they sold you could win at poker with skill. In Rounders he was a strong player. And Moneymaker, you can say he's a donk but heads up he ran a ballsy, well-timed bluff on Farha and that was absolutely part of the narrative.
There are some recs who just want to splash around but there are MANY more who, even if they're just playing for fun, still aspire to win via skill. Maybe they have a few drinks and undermine that goal with a punt session but nonetheless I'd say the majority of recs still aim to be winning players. The mix of skill and luck is part of the appeal. I think it's a hard minority who just want to purely gamble, because if that's their mindset, agan, baccarat, blackjack, craps, all much better games if you don't care about potential for skill and just want to gamble.
If nobody can win because the rake is too high, yes just shut it down and get back to blackjack and craps, there's no point.
As far as inflation making games like 1/2 1/3 less viable, it's going to happen sooner or later anyway, maybe sooner because of money printing, that's fine. Instead of running 1/2 games with rake so high they are absolutely pointless, then figure out how to encourage more 2/5 5/10 and 10/20 games to go consistently, by investing in poker rooms and poker images.
I've mentioned this in another thread, but casinos need to do MORE livestreaming. LATB is by far the best hope for poker to remain relevant. Clinging to old traditions in a digital age is the most short sighted thing a cardroom could do.