Hi Digger:

Negreanu has the right to be critical of whoever he wants to be critical of. However, it's my opinion that his behavior and comments, both written and verbal, are out of bounds and if he keeps it up he'll only damage himself as well as the Daniel Negreanu brand, and I think this is pretty obvious.

Now to your specifics. I've had several phone conversations with Howard this past week and I'm convinced there is a positive story to be told. Unfortunately, it's also my opinion, that the PokerNews interviews didn't get the positive story out. I don't want to be critical of the PN interview here since it's also my opinion that Mathew Parvis worked hard in preparing for them and did the the best he could. But I also believe that the approach which Mike and Adam will take will producw superior results which we'll be talking about for a long time.

As for Annie Duke, just so there is no misunderstanding, I believe that my opinion of her is more negative than Negreanu's. However, my approach in criticizing her is different.

As for Juanda and Ivey, two people who I don't know at all, if Negreanu wants to defend them, that's fine with me. However, I like all of you, would like to hear directly from Juanda and Ivey, as well as some of the other investors who are now getting some negative publicity. It's not so much that I want to hear their side of the story, it's more along the lines of the more information that comes out, hopefully the more true facts will come out, and the poker community certainly wants to know the complete and accurate story.

Best wishes,
Mason

So is it your intention to manufacture this "positive" narrative through the podcast?

Are or will Mike and Adam be provided with a directive or "script" as to what, when, and how questions are asked?

Will there be any planned questions planted by anyone other than Mike or Adam?

Are there any limits that Howard or his attorney or publicists proposed in order to receive an interview?

Is Howard paying you for this interview?

Mason,

I guess I just wanted to contextualise Daniel and his recent relationship with this site for those that are unaware.
Given that I respect your judgement - I will be interested in listening for any 'positives' out of Lederer's interview but it will be hard to give it anything more than a grain of salt.
Keep up the good work.
Digger.

Oke.

They could cover these deposits for sure if the DOJ had backed off. The only reason it has taken so long to get our money back is because of the uncertainty about their 1B fine.

Technically it wasn't criminal anyway, because we are outside the USA now, but if it was that would be only because of the illegal actions of the DOJ. The fine would mean FTP went bankrupt and the DOJ would have taken our money, 60% belonging to the ROW.
Who and what is criminal here?


As for DN, he is about the only pokerplayer I lost respect for.
Ivey, Juanda, Howard etc all made mistakes, but I think that is understandable under these circumstances.
It is too bad they don't realise they are all in the same boat and throw so much mud at each other.
Probably under the influence of all the lawyers that got involved.

Now that you have heard the interview, why don't you go ahead and answer these questions.

MM

lol dnegs got owned by the mods.....any links to what specifically happened?

Not 100 pct sure, but I think he was trying to plug his weekly rant on here and they temp banned him for a couple days and he got super pissed.

[QUOTE=hankypankyAA;34933182]They are all scumbags. Howard, ivey, negreanu, lindgren, juanda, no one cares at this point i think the new poker community sees them all for what they are, opportunists, degenerates, and scumbags.[/QUOTE
As are the majority of "pro" poker players. Could also add, cheaters, scammers, hustlers, liars, etc. I believe the [B]"new poker community", is no exception..

tl;dr

**** I hate Daniel.

I love people who open a thread like this and then post saying xxx should just shut up.

haha. 100% true !

Hi Mason,

Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'there is a positive story to be told'? I'm very curious as to what Howard may have said to you (or anything else) to convince you of this, but was unable to get across in either of the interviews (in my opinion).

I thought Mike and Adam did a really good job, but I didn't think a more positive story was really told. Do you agree? If not, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on why/what you thought was positive?? Thanks.

not gonna read this thread who cares what DN says tho

only took me 2 seconds, oh when online poker comes back gl USA you will def need it haha

You should just shut up!

Daniel is a very good spokesman for all poker players in general.

Those of you who see Lederer in a different light and think he did everything he could, please remember:

He did not say a single word for more than a year.
That's plenty of time to make up a credible story that makes you look like a hero ...

+1.

This thread demonstrates yet again how easy it is to bs people and succeed at it.
Plenty of gullible illogical people out there.

See Brad Booth video for details. He turned more than half this forum into his best buddy simply by whimpering on camera and sending pm's and he even admitted his guilt.

Show us one reasonably sourced story about Negranu being a scumbag.