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Old 06-02-2021, 08:53 AM   #76
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Re: My Latest Book: HUPLO: The Definitive Guide

I’m going to step in.

I’m a nobody in the poker community. I have been an on-off RIO subscriber for many years and have appreciated Cory’s help. I have also been on 2p2 for about 10 years under a number of usernames passively taking in interesting tidbits.

My take on the situation:

He has a book. It’s quite a lot of $.

(I would really like to buy it, I just don’t really want to commit that much. That may be a good decision, it might be a mistake.)

For all the posters being negative/critical/other descriptions of their positions may be applicable, it’s fine you’re not interested in purchasing it. If the site lets people promote the book, let the geezer promote it. (And let me get some more free tidbits )

I don’t think calls for graphs, subjective opinions on his skill level is moving the discussion anywhere productive. (Well I’m definitely not learning anything from it )

Ask Cory a poker question, he answers. There’s a book to buy: buy it or don’t buy it. I’m failing to see the situation in any other way.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:04 AM   #77
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Re: My Latest Book: HUPLO: The Definitive Guide

I contacted Cory in the fall of 2019 and we agreed on a long term coaching deal. One to two 90 minutes 1on1 coaching sessions per week. Until that point I played 6max PLO100 barely making money. I had had prior experience with NL HU, so I was quite excited about the collaboration. In the first couple of months I quickly climbed up the stakes and even attempted to take a shot on plo1000, which did not end up very well. The downswing set me back quite a bit. Honestly, I am not sure if i would have made it without Cory's guidance. What kept me working hard and confident in the process was his unique and very practical approach of learning the game, which is based on concepts and practical heuristics (it helps to break down to complexity of the game into applicable material). After overcoming the downswing I felt very confident about my game and took the second shot on PLO1000 which finally went the opposite direction to the prior attempt.

So after less than a year long collaboration I went from barely making money in PLO100 to beating plo1000. The first year of the coaching deal I ended up +$70k.

Afterwards, we set our target on HU PLO5 card games where we were able to beat the games from the day one.

Cory is an excelent teacher and I always look forward to our sessions.
I would recommend the coaching to anyone who is serious about the game and wants to really understand (crush) the game.




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Old 06-02-2021, 09:08 AM   #78
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Pretty golden to call out a troll for Dunning Kruger and then simultaneously claim to be top10 world in theoretical knowledge while not playing higher than 5/10 lol.

Even if you genuinly think you're top10, you can't possibly claim that in a public forum and expect people to take your seriously. Maybe have your boy TomsOn make that claim for you and it might have some more weight to it.

Would you be interested in a bet that's solely revolving around theoretical HUplo? It would not be hard to set up a game where an independent third party picks out a few hands/lines and you and your opponent both make guesses on what's the best play at equilibrium and you pay a fee for every X amount of EV that you play worse compared to monker. If so, I think I know a few takers.
Also understandable if you don't have the time for that though.
Sure, sounds good, let's do it
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:10 AM   #79
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Great discussion on the Runchuks podcast last week, I could listen to you two talk for hours.
Thanks man, I give most of the credit to him. Great conversationalist and host
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:14 AM   #80
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Combined with graphs delivered, this is getting intresting. Just to clarify, what was your last nickname on party, before the recent changes?

(I saw you mentioned one before, but I play a lot of party on a lot of levels, somewhat HU included, and can't recall 420isaPSB. If that was the one, what kind of tables that 'winnings' are coming from?)
It may have been four20isaPSB now that I think about it, but I would sit the HU tables and the real name tables. Played maybe 1k hands of 10-25 as well, but almost never got action. Most people wouldn't play especially on my real name tables either.

I didn't make any other names.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:16 AM   #81
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Who are these really strong players?

What kind of teacher outs their students?


Maybe your account was the one he thought was the bot
Thanks for the compliment. Always nice to be compared to our silicon friends
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:22 AM   #82
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Re: My Latest Book: HUPLO: The Definitive Guide

You misunderstood, you previously said you didn't play one person on Party because you thought they were a bot. I was saying you might've thought krowelicz was the bot and didn't play him (hence why he never saw your SN).

I mean, you don't need to have referrals to sell products/coach necessarily, but when you are the one to claim that you have coached some strong players, it seems like it's up to you to provide proof that you have. Otherwise anyone could make your claim and say "Ah, sorry buddy, I'd like to respect their privacy, but believe me it's true"

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Old 06-02-2021, 09:24 AM   #83
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Iím going to step in.

Iím a nobody in the poker community. I have been an on-off RIO subscriber for many years and have appreciated Coryís help. I have also been on 2p2 for about 10 years under a number of usernames passively taking in interesting tidbits.

My take on the situation:

He has a book. Itís quite a lot of $.

(I would really like to buy it, I just donít really want to commit that much. That may be a good decision, it might be a mistake.)

For all the posters being negative/critical/other descriptions of their positions may be applicable, itís fine youíre not interested in purchasing it. If the site lets people promote the book, let the geezer promote it. (And let me get some more free tidbits )

I donít think calls for graphs, subjective opinions on his skill level is moving the discussion anywhere productive. (Well Iím definitely not learning anything from it )

Ask Cory a poker question, he answers. Thereís a book to buy: buy it or donít buy it. Iím failing to see the situation in any other way.
Thanks a lot man, download the free chapter on my website. I think that alone adds a lot of value.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:30 AM   #84
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You misunderstood, you previously said you didn't play one person on Party because you thought they were a bot. I was saying you might've thought krowelicz was the bot and didn't play him (hence why he never saw your SN).
Ah ok No that wasn't the account I was worried about
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:31 AM   #85
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Ask Cory a poker question, he answers.
ok so that's just demonstrably false to anybody who has paid any attention itt


it's cute that you got your low stakes students in here to defend you since nobody else is. lol your student's graph is nicer than yours.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:34 AM   #86
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You misunderstood, you previously said you didn't play one person on Party because you thought they were a bot. I was saying you might've thought krowelicz was the bot and didn't play him (hence why he never saw your SN).

I mean, you don't need to have referrals to sell products/coach necessarily, but when you are the one to claim that you have coached some strong players, it seems like it's up to you to provide proof that you have. Otherwise anyone could make your claim and say "Ah, sorry buddy, I'd like to respect their privacy, but believe me it's true"
tomsOn wrote the forward. That's a pretty good recommendation, no? I wouldn't say I "coached" him in the sense of starting from the beginning because he was already an extremely strong 50-100 player when we met, but a lot of the work in the book was analysis I made for him. In chess you'd call my a roll a "second" which is probably a better characterization
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:43 AM   #87
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Re: My Latest Book: HUPLO: The Definitive Guide

Every HU crusher I know play preflop near perfect for every stack sizes up to 200bb.
The PLOmatrix is available since 2017 ffs.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:51 AM   #88
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tomsOn wrote the forward. That's a pretty good recommendation, no? I wouldn't say I "coached" him in the sense of starting from the beginning because he was already an extremely strong 50-100 player when we met, but a lot of the work in the book was analysis I made for him. In chess you'd call my a roll a "second" which is probably a better characterization
Ah his post didn't imply that you coached him, just that you were friends and he read through your book. Sure, that's fair enough.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:55 AM   #89
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Every HU crusher I know play preflop near perfect for every stack sizes up to 200bb.
The PLOmatrix is available since 2017 ffs.
Sorry, that's just incorrect. You probably haven't thought to ask them about the differences between 12.5bb and 15bb or 40bb and 60bb.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:02 AM   #90
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Sorry, that's just incorrect. You probably haven't thought to ask them about the differences between 12.5bb and 15bb or 40bb and 60bb.
They do play 20bb and 50bb HU very regularly. If you donít filter out 5k on ACR you can see them.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:10 AM   #91
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ok so that's just demonstrably false to anybody who has paid any attention itt


it's cute that you got your low stakes students in here to defend you since nobody else is. lol your student's graph is nicer than yours.
Come on lad

Provide some value/poker theory that I can use/Ďknowledgeí or GTFO of the thread.

In the nicest way possible, youíve made your point.

Now give something back
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:12 AM   #92
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They do play 20bb and 50bb HU very regularly. If you donít filter out 5k on ACR you can see them.
Regularly, yes they definitely play those tables regularly. How well people are executing a polarized RFI at 20-25-30bb-etc, is different question.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:18 AM   #93
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Regularly, yes they definitely play those tables regularly. How well people are executing a polarized RFI at 20-25-30bb-etc, is different question.
Dunno why u talking about polarized and merged every crusher just playing solver ranges.

Kinda funny you so fixated on sub 40bb when nobody battle that short. Especially not at your rake level.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:33 AM   #94
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Regularly, yes they definitely play those tables regularly. How well people are executing a polarized RFI at 20-25-30bb-etc, is different question.
Do you battle 20bb at 1k???

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Old 06-02-2021, 10:34 AM   #95
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Dunno why u talking about polarized and merged every crusher just playing solver ranges.

Kinda funny you so fixated on sub 40bb when nobody battle that short. Especially not at your rake level.
I won't say any more on this front because I don't want to take value away from the people who buy the book by putting the information out publicly, but it's clear that you don't know what the solver ranges look like sub 100bb
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:36 AM   #96
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Do you battle 20bb at 1k???
It would depend on the rake/rakeback at 1k. 2k you could play any stack size, but 1k, I'd recommend 40bb as kind of a minimum. That's why the book is 60% 100bb and and maybe like 30% 40bb
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:46 AM   #97
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I won't say any more on this front because I don't want to take value away from the people who buy the book by putting the information out publicly, but it's clear that you don't know what the solver ranges look like sub 100bb
Who cares what it looks like? Every regs has all the preflop sims since 2017 and have had training tools and 5 years. You making it sounds like u got some unicorns flying out of your book.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:52 AM   #98
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Who cares what it looks like? Every regs has all the preflop sims since 2017 and have had training tools and 5 years. You making it sounds like u got some unicorns flying out of your book.
Having sims and studying them deeply and understanding them are very different things
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:55 AM   #99
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Would you be interested in a bet that's solely revolving around theoretical HUplo? It would not be hard to set up a game where an independent third party picks out a few hands/lines and you and your opponent both make guesses on what's the best play at equilibrium and you pay a fee for every X amount of EV that you play worse compared to monker. If so, I think I know a few takers.
If you're serious about this I'm happy to take Cory's side. If the format includes stacks below 100bb we can make the bet pretty significant too.
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Every HU crusher I know play preflop near perfect for every stack sizes up to 200bb.
The PLOmatrix is available since 2017 ffs.
Unless you are implying that people are using charts in real-time, as someone who has played HU at 25/50+ w/ close to no game selection almost every day for the past 4 years and studied short-stack quite a bit I can assure you no-one is playing pre close to optimal sub 100bb. At lower stacks once you are forced to introduce limping the decision tree becomes too complex and patternless to play with decent precision so everyone is guessing/improvising.
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Old 06-02-2021, 11:37 AM   #100
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Yeah I think I may have spoken abit too soon, in my head for whatever reason I was only thinking about 100bb since that is the most frequent/popular stacksize, but I assume Cory would also want <50bb spots in there (which is fair I think if he's put in majority of his work into those spots) and it's a lot less tempting of a proposition to battle someone who's studied shortstacking alot in those types of bets.

Good to see that you'd be willing to take his action though, that gives his claims alot more legitimacy in my eyes atleast
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