Multi-accounting cheating at high stakes - Jared Bleznick and more - Page 27 - Poker News

A few questions arising from this thread. First, is it widely agreed that Bleznick is still multi accounting and if so, why would it be implicitly allowed by the sites?

He generate lots of rake and action. They can also confiscate funds if they want.

Is that "NYC NASA-like operation" scenario just Realityworld/Privateworld engaging in educated trolling?

US players VPN.

Assuming Durrrr is a smart guy, why did he defend multi-accounting as an acceptable angle type strategy? Is this not even more serious than collusion?

Its about intention in his world. If its to protect privacy for fishes he thinks its fine.

Anyone have any insight into the extent of Mr.Greens multi accounting? I'm trying to understand this as it relates to his perspective on poker as very dark. Is it (as Negreanu suggested) the scams that he became familiar with that left a bitter taste?

Mr.Green is the dark side.

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04-24-2015 , 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blopp

Eireabu...

I think its been said before, but its very unlikely that eireabu is multi-accounting. Having played few hands with him of huplo, I highly doupt he is multi-accounting.

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04-24-2015 , 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemay002

I think its been said before, but its very unlikely that eireabu is multi-accounting. Having played few hands with him of huplo, I highly doupt he is multi-accounting.

You're quite certain an unknown person is not playing on more than one account because you've played a few hands vs him on an unknown account rumoured to be shared by at least two people?

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04-24-2015 , 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

You're quite certain an unknown person is not playing on more than one account because you've played a few hands vs him on an unknown account rumoured to be shared by at least two people?

I'm not sure I understand fully your question, but Eireabu has a very unique playing style, when I played him / saw his match he played the very same way and very few ppl have a style that is remotly close to his.

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04-24-2015 , 04:58 AM

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I had a long response written but the app decided to tilt me and crash right as I hit Submit. Redo tomorrow!

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06-26-2015 , 05:49 AM

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Double Bracelet Winner Brian Hastings cheating

Link: Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes"

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Originally Posted by Andro

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Originally Posted by Stinger88

All,

I have been following the thread some but been very busy this summer playing the WSOP. I'm aware of the allegations, but at this time I have nothing to add to the conversation publicly. I stopped caring what strangers on the internet said or thought about me many years ago; otherwise I probably would've jumped off the deep end by now. What I do care about is something like this being a major story in the poker world at a time in which the WSOP is in full force and we should be trying to promote and grow the game of poker, rather than drag it through the mud. Think what you want about me, but one thing I have in common with most people reading this is that we love the game of poker and want to be able to play it freely in the comfort of our own homes. I'm moving back to PA soon to play 400/800 mix live and be closer to Sonya's and my parents, and state regulation of online poker would be a nice cherry on top.

I think especially those of us who are professional poker players should be taking steps to try to promote and grow the game, rather than feeling sorry for themselves because Cardrunners was founded, Black Friday happened, everybody is too good now, etc. With enough hard work, I truly believe that just about anyone (at least anyone smart enough to be browsing 2+2) can make a living playing poker in 2015. I think it's unfortunate that certain people have been on bad runs and choose to take their frustrations out outwardly rather than by trying to self improve, but I get it, it's certainly not always easy. I did not turn a profit in 2 of the previous 3 years, but with an improved mindset, an amazing woman in my life, and a strong work ethic, I've gotten my game back to where it needs to be.

This will be my last post in this thread. If you'd like to discuss further with me I'm just a PM away.

Brian

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Originally Posted by Bakes

This is the level of delusion we're dealing with here folks

The guy was no doubt blowing up my old Skype that I never use and got frustrated when I didn't immediately respond

I don't always get Multiaccounting apologies, but when I do they curse me out, condescend and call me a bad player, talk some patriotic bull**** about what's good for the game, and something something I didn't scum you that bad but I'll still pay your equity back

Fwiw let me explain how I was contacted

With 7 left in the FT a poker player who is my friend but is no doubt much closer to Brian than me messaged a close friend of mine saying that they had a 'business opportunity' or something like that for the FT. I had no clue wtf this was so I played out the FT and only realized after this was my opportunity to learn who I was playing against

Of course, that was the SCOOP FT

When we played sessions like this together

Hand #4379

PokerStars Hand #130955392733: 8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit, $100/$200 USD) - 2015/02/22 12:46:20 ET
Table 'Coppelia V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Crazy Elior ($6493.10 in chips)
Seat 2: NoelHayes ($8830.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Fresh_oO_D ($7211 in chips)
Seat 4: hotmark777 ($2576.69 in chips)
Seat 6: WhooooKidd ($2450.50 in chips)

He didn't give two ****s about telling me 4 months prior at 100/200 8game

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06-26-2015 , 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

I had a long response written but the app decided to tilt me and crash right as I hit Submit. Redo tomorrow!

Bump

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06-27-2015 , 07:35 AM

#658

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Drinan tweets Bleznick

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01-20-2016 , 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

"However, we require a video recording of you playing. This recording has a few mandatory requirements:

- At the beginning of the recording, we must be able to clearly see your face in order to confirm your identity
- Before starting to play, you must rotate your camera 360 degrees to show us all of your surroundings
- You must start your playing session from an empty computer desktop, whereby you initiate the PokerStars client and log into your account
- After logging in, you must play a regular session of yours
- Your playing session at the tables must be for a minimum of 70 active minutes
- During your play at the tables, the recording must be of sufficient quality to see and track the activities that are taking place on your desktop. In addition, the recording must capture your surrounding environment including your monitor, keyboard, mouse and the movement of your hands
- Audio must be included in the recording
- You must minimise the amount of individual video files. Longer, continual recordings are preferred
- You have 10 days to complete this task

It is important that your playing session is conducted in the same manner as one of your typical sessions as your tendencies will be contrasted with your regular play.

You must supply the resulting recording to us via email. In the likely event the files exceed attachment limits, please utilise file sharing services such as Dropbox, Google Drive or whichever service you prefer. We'll largely leave this option up to you.

Failure to follow these instructions or if the video is of sub-par quality, will result in this task needing to be repeated."

Definitive a good measure that should scare people like Harrington and Hastings.

Watching the real Noel Hayes playing 100-200 online mixed games himself should be a huge tell.

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02-07-2016 , 10:04 PM

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X posted from Mtt community thread

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Originally Posted by StillDoingIt

Sorel Mizzi final tabled the most recent WCOOP event under the name bindernutnut. Karma prevailed and he eventually finished 9th. Speculation that he was using multiple accounts is not yet confirmed nor is the speculation that he has been doing this for a long time has been confirmed yet.

He played the tournament from his place in Las Vegas using a VPN.

Perhaps the most shocking part of the story is that one of his best friends Rory Brown also final tabled the event and Sorel spoke with him about strategy in the final table and offered to help him out both before the final table started and live.

London Royals manager and PokerStars pro Liv Boeree knew all about this and is one of the people on Sorels side (not telling her employers PokerStars) and putting it down to mental problems on Sorels side. Many other pros know about this and it has been gossip within the high stakes circles in Las Vegas for the last months.

Antonio Esfandiari and other former friends of Sorel have turned on him and asked him to repay all debts.

All of the above is factual, the suggestions that he has always continued to multi account playing via VPNs and betrayed more of his friends is simply unconfirmed speculation.

It would not surprise me if he has multiple accounts in today's Sunday majors. I think Liv should be pushed to make this public to PokerStars and the money won on this confirmed (to her and others) and other accounts that he is using should be confiscated.

I will not make another post on the subject.

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02-08-2016 , 03:36 AM

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Sorel at it again. There's a shock.

Scumbag

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02-08-2016 , 04:27 AM

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X posted from Mtt community thread

The real problem is that many of his "friends" have pieces of him or are being owed money. Therefore they tolerate his cheating.

I really hope Stars starts banning those cheats from the live circuit. It's not like they really need them in the tournaments in the first place. I would think those MTT would be much more interesting for the average guys and actually generate bigger player pools.

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02-08-2016 , 11:43 AM

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Pretty sure they have banned people from PokerStars live events, after cheating online. Im sure a stars rep reads this and can confirm/deny.

Would be even more effective if they could coordinate this bans with WSOP events as well for the worst offenders.

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02-08-2016 , 10:58 PM

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Sorel Mizzi has been a pro cheat for over a decade. Cant believe after the OFC thing he wasn't shunned from the community once and for all.

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02-08-2016 , 11:07 PM

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Link to the OFC thing?

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02-08-2016 , 11:27 PM

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Link to the OFC thing?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...acener-983244/

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02-09-2016 , 12:10 AM

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Why doesn't this deserve it's own thread is my only question

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02-09-2016 , 05:59 AM

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What stops you from making one or was it moved into this thread?

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Originally Posted by StillDoingIt

There is no "proof". Liv knew all along and when it got out she defended him and was on his side.

It is common knowledge in the high stakes community. You won't see him at any super high rollers, the guys who were buying pieces in him have completely written him off, he owed a lot of money and sold his place in Vegas to pay back all the debts he has from complete degeneracy. Antonio put the word out when he found out about this.

By the way this was the WCOOP main event, he cashed over 100,000 on this account and who knows how much on other accounts. Since this came out he doesn't have a single cash on Hendon Mob and I guess he didn't go to PCA to play the high rollers there. Anybody who is anybody knows they are the softest tournaments on the year for high rollers. Last year he came 4th in the $100k.

If you check his Twitter he has close to zero tweets between November-February. In February he made a post "new goal - no more drugs".

I have no idea how he does he but he has a system to play on multiple accounts from the States. He won 6 figures and Liv knows about this. I think Stars should treat this with very high importance. It came out after his life time ban on PokerStars/Full Tilt that he was playing on 6+ accounts (Full Tilt employee posted this was true in the thread where he was cheating people at Chinese poker)

Liv response to this is quite laughable. "Post burning man schizophrenia" you can't make this up.

As far as I know Rory (Mr Kingball - 6th place finisher) spoke to Sorel before the final table and explained his reads/strategy on all players including Sorel (he didn't k ow it was Sorel of course) but didn't allow him to see his screen while the final table ran)

He found out afterwards and is obviously extremely pissed about it.

Their should be extreme pressure put on Stars to make the lifetime ban lifetime as well as doing an investigation into what Liv knew and knows.

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02-09-2016 , 06:19 AM

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Pretty sure liv has had other people play on her account as well, stars TOC is pretty stupid they have no way to enforce their rules

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02-09-2016 , 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by that_anon_pgc

What stops you from making one or was it moved into this thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../#post49324232

Done I guess

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02-09-2016 , 03:27 PM

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poker players are such AIDS, i try to never befriend any at the tables. so many cheaters and scumbags id never risk it. they all back each other up like some gay circle jerk, because they all have dirt on them if they tell the truth about X player.

thank **** my friends hate poker.