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04-24-2011 , 08:56 PM
What do you mean "played out?"

What about violent crime in Panama vs. Costa Rica? Significantly higher, no?

Hot women in Panama? I need 3rd party verification on that one. I heard they were meh.
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04-24-2011 , 09:21 PM
http://www.panamacasa.com/index.php?...operties=short


2 bedroom fully furnished in Panama $1500
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04-24-2011 , 09:40 PM
I dont know. I much prefer spanish women in general, so my opinion is biased. In terms of violent crime.... While the murder rates are higher in all countries in that area, Panama has one of the lowest ones. But if we are looking at murder rates, I think that seems awfully strange. What is the concern, getting mugged while walking down the street? It's the same as the US, stuff doesn't randomly happen very often. If your walking down the street blackout drunk at 4 am in the morning in a bad neighborhood in the US and you DONT get mugged I would be surprised. It is the same pretty much anywhere. There are bad neighborhoods in Canada, there are bad neighborhoods in Germany. But enough to make someone worry? I would say no, not at all, ever. The people taht have stuff happen to them outside of that, is generally always drug people. Countries like Panama, Colombia, etc have higher murder rates because of drug trafficking, not because it is generally unsafe. If you live in a relatively nice neighborhood you would be fine in Ghana, let alone anywhere in central america.
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04-24-2011 , 09:45 PM
but if your talking general crime, thats a per capita list/

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...mes-per-capita

to me it shows that the countries where you pay off the police, or less civilized have lower general crime rates...but what does that say? I mean in a country where the economy isnt stable, they have al ot bigger concerns then someoen driving drunk, or petty theft. so the lower crime rates is because esesntially nothign gets tried.
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04-24-2011 , 09:50 PM
Safest countries are like Hong Kong, Singapore, Morrocco. The last one is one I am suprised no one has mentioned. Safe, and huge PLO Games.
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04-24-2011 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
What do you mean "played out?"

What about violent crime in Panama vs. Costa Rica? Significantly higher, no?

Hot women in Panama? I need 3rd party verification on that one. I heard they were meh.
usually the nicer the beaches the hotter the women

you can live on the beach here

http://www.rentinpanamacity.com/pana...e-Country-Club
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04-25-2011 , 12:03 AM
You guy's really don't know much about how to search the web for places do you all?

Here are some hints. Go to bookstores and you will find a ton of books about retiring overseas in Mexico, Costa Rica, and the rest of Central America. They are usually in the regular travel section, but also look in the Personal Finance section about retiring there are some there too.

There are several websites that you can check out too.

http://www.escapeartist.com/retireme...tirement2.html
http://www.escapeartist.com/Articles/Articles_16.html

http://www.*************/best-places...io-de-janeiro/

http://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/index.php
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04-25-2011 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtySanchez80
Need to add some "IT DEPENDS" :

sunny weather - very hot in summer / windy cloudy in autumn/winter
its an island - so its more expensive bc everything must be imported
hot chicks with big boobs - nah not really (+malta is catholic)
a lot of fellow poker players - true
great nightlife - overloaded clubs playing the same mainstream house/rnb trash over and over again so loud that u cant even talk on the street
hahahaha ... but why you living there than ?

of course there are clubs where you have a talk ..none say u need to go to Havana , you can go Club22 for example, or Bedouin Bar.

to the girls, they are catholic yes, but i never see so many miniskirts before in any other country ...and pls dont forget all the girls who coming for learning english there..japanese, korean, bulgarian, italian, swedish girls everywhere.

regarding expensive: some things might be expensive, i guess Dirty Sanchez is from Germany, but Germany has the lowest prices on food and i guess also on VAT , so yes its expensive, but im paying the same money for a steak at Buffalo Steak House in Portomaso as in Hamburg at the Steakhouse.

I dont think there is that much difference
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04-25-2011 , 10:03 AM
I just talked to Stars support to get exact verification of what is needed:

Questions and follow-up below:

1. A clear copy of your driver's license, or any other valid government
issued picture ID.

Will my US Passport be accepted as valid Goverment Issued ID?

2. A clear copy of a recent utility bill clearly showing your full name,
address in the non-US country of residence and statement date (no older
than
3 months).

Will a copy of my signed lease with my landlord in Costa Rica be
acceptable?

Many residences have everything included in their lease agreement,
electric,
internet & phone.


3. A clear copy of a non-US (non-US territories) bank account statement
showing your full name, statement date and current address outside the US
(and/or US territories).

No problem, I will be able to show my Costa Rican bank account with my
address which is located in #2


4. Your landline phone number in your new country of residence, should we
need to contact you.

This will be no problem.

ANSWERS:

Thank you for the follow up. Regarding our questions:

- Your US passport is perfectly fine as ID as long as it is not expired.

- If the signed lease shows your name, the address and is not older than
three months, this will be sufficient as proof of address, as long as you
can also provide a bank statement and the land line phone number.


If you need any further information, please feel free to get back to us at
any time.

Regards,

Matthias
PokerStars Security Team

***UNREAL HOW AMAZING THEIR SUPPORT IS, SO FAST AND JUST GREAT TO DEAL WITH***
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04-25-2011 , 10:06 AM
great news! Where you headed Tommy?....Oh, FT has yet to answer this question, have you heard anything from them?
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04-25-2011 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by capiscc
great news! Where you headed Tommy?....Oh, FT has yet to answer this question, have you heard anything from them?
Not much of a FullTilt guy. Looks like I am Costa Rica bound, waiting on my passport. I might be looking for a roommate though My plan is to be there 1st week of July.
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04-25-2011 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Ho
Not much of a FullTilt guy. Looks like I am Costa Rica bound, waiting on my passport. I might be looking for a roommate though My plan is to be there 1st week of July.
I'm looking for a place to go! Was thinking Canada, but the beach sounds nice too. I've heard good things about Costa Rica but its very important to find a decent place with internet connection and opening a bank account. Send me a PM if you want to talk more about this...
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04-25-2011 , 10:38 AM
I've been looking into Ecuador. Voted the #1 place in the world to "retire". Very low cost of living.
Phillipines only allows 50 of any one nationality to immigrate there a year. Only English speaking country in Asia. That'd be my 2nd choice.
Malta is said to have the nicest weather year round. I don't know much else about it.
Panama also gets high marks as a place to live for ex-pats.
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04-25-2011 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by codliveroil
dont come to Turkey,
it is hard depositing and withdrawing money from ft and pokerstars. You have to use a third party.
Yeah, but the upside is that Turkey is a freaking awesome country. Whereabouts are you?

Oh, and re: Ecuador from the last post, pretty sure I read that there's an insanely high crime rate towards non-nationals in the country right now, a lot of which is violent crime. I'm guessing for people who actually live there/speak Spanish or whatever it'd probably be easier and could easily be an awesome place to live, but I can't imagine it's actually that nice a place to retire if you're rich and white, seeing as you might get robbed pretty swiftly.
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04-25-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by theginger45
Yeah, but the upside is that Turkey is a freaking awesome country. Whereabouts are you?

Oh, and re: Ecuador from the last post, pretty sure I read that there's an insanely high crime rate towards non-nationals in the country right now, a lot of which is violent crime. I'm guessing for people who acually live there/speak Spanish or whatever it'd probably be easier and could easily be an awesome place to live, but I can't imagine it's actually that nice a place to retire if you're rich and white, seeing as you might get robbed pretty swiftly.
Don't know if you pay attention to the news but there is a lot of political upheaval in Equador. There was a coup attempt a few months ago. Would not advise currently residing there.

You can also check the State Department website for information on certain areas.
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04-25-2011 , 01:59 PM
for me i live in the usa and i would want to move somewhere close so i can travel back at least once a year. Canada is out of the question b/c of visa and banking restrictions. So south of the boarder it is. Panama sounds nice but the visa restrictions are a problem too. Cuenca Ecuador sounds like a good place, take a look at his article.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...to-retire.aspx
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04-25-2011 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mofliedlice
I'd like to take a moment and applaud you for your courage.

I do lack your courage....or maybe it's your insanity......or maybe I'm just smarter. GL in CR though......hopefully you don't open up the hot chicks thread in OOT and lose your internet due to all the .jpegs.

No reason to be making these big decisions after one week when no one has any idea what's going on. You should all have adequate backup money in case of emergencies that should give you the time to plan something out and see what happens in the coming weeks. If you don't.......well time to give up living off of rakeback and admit failure.
Fellow Bucks fan? I thought there were none left...
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04-25-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Ho
Can anyone from Costa Rica confirm or deny about the internet connection?
I have been living in Costa Rica for the past four months.

I live in an area between Heredia and San Isidro.

I have had some issues with a steady internet connections with Pokerstars and UB and I thought it was just because we were out in the boondocks, but it sounds like it might be on a country level.

There are times in the day when there is a bunch of packet loss. Situations where you get disconnected every hand. When you use the PS network tool, it shows >50% packet loss

I would say this happens a few hours of the week. And there doesnt seem to be any reason for it. Also keep in mind it's tough to tell if you will have problems because the internet still works. Websites might load just fine, but something about the way the poker client works will constantly get disconnected.

Tough to watch videos on Youtube or any video streaming sites.
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04-25-2011 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Ho
First time I am ashamed to call myself an americian.
You must not read the newspaper very often.
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04-26-2011 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LastEmperor7
the best place would be singapore. its tax free and great city to live in. very good internet connection to go along with it
You are kidding right? Not only is online gambling illegal in Singapore, it is one of the most expensive cities in the world. There is no live poker in the casinos there, it is not tax free at all and the govt has recently cracked down on home games.

Yes its clean and crime free. There is a fantastic nightlife if you are happy paying $10 for a bottle of beer.
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04-26-2011 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DertySKorean
I have been living in Costa Rica for the past four months.

I live in an area between Heredia and San Isidro.

I have had some issues with a steady internet connections with Pokerstars and UB and I thought it was just because we were out in the boondocks, but it sounds like it might be on a country level.

There are times in the day when there is a bunch of packet loss. Situations where you get disconnected every hand. When you use the PS network tool, it shows >50% packet loss

I would say this happens a few hours of the week. And there doesnt seem to be any reason for it. Also keep in mind it's tough to tell if you will have problems because the internet still works. Websites might load just fine, but something about the way the poker client works will constantly get disconnected.

Tough to watch videos on Youtube or any video streaming sites.

which is why im choosing the Bahamas
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04-26-2011 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by r0eKY
for me i live in the usa and i would want to move somewhere close so i can travel back at least once a year. Canada is out of the question b/c of visa and banking restrictions. So south of the boarder it is. Panama sounds nice but the visa restrictions are a problem too. Cuenca Ecuador sounds like a good place, take a look at his article.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...to-retire.aspx
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Hit me up pm I can school you on the situation in panama I learned alot about it today. It is attractive for a number of reasons even if you don't plan to stay there.
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04-26-2011 , 08:21 AM
For those that play mid-high stakes poker, you can move here in Lugano (Switzerland). Quiet place but just one hour away from Milan if you need better nightlife, perfect central location to move around Europe with just public transportation (whether train or plane), not as expensive as the most well known Swiss cities if you don't look for extra luxuries, furthermore there are two casinos (one of them the biggest of Europe in Campione) nearby where you can play from 5-10 to 10-20 daily and the level is bad given that there are a lot of Italian players and Swiss aren't much better in general. In theory online gambling is illegal in Switzerland but the law is not enforced and if you still miss Pokerstars and Full Tilt I am sure we can work out something. Young people in general speak English and with the local university you can get to know students that speak mostly or only English.
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04-26-2011 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dj_mercury
you can move here in Lugano (Switzerland)
Cons:
It's easy to get a visa for 3 months/year. But it seems pretty difficult to get a residence permit that exceeds that. At least for non EU residents. If you don't have a job in switzerland your only chance is to prove that you have sufficient financial means + health insurance. Plus the cost of living in switzerland is very high!
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04-26-2011 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by blitzforce
My brother adam bilzerian did this and he actually wrote a book about it... If you are seriously considering it, you might wanna check that out or talk to him, its a pretty serious step.
Didn't he renounce his citizenship too? IMO that is what made his decision way more serious. Most people itt just want to live somewhere else but will come back to the US eventually.
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