ah yes exact same scenario damn u smart, hope 10nl is treating u well

Loctus, yeah you're right in hindsight, apologies for the straw men.

How are superusers constantly so stupid? If Mike is truly a superuser, all you have to do is be a little more lowkey about it, get a couple flips in bad, don't 3 bet jam 69o otr when you're good. Kind of scary that if superusers aren't trying to win every damn pot there's really no way to know they're not just a crusher.

the more hands I see the more fishy it looks, anybody has seen him get stacked? actually lose his stack to a cooler?

It's clear to me. Nice job Joey.
The real questions is why is he so stupid?
Imagine all the people who aren't stupid and don't get caught.
That 88 vs TT hand, just lol

Postle correctly folds KK preflop

https://youtu.be/7XJ0mSsjYIg?t=8306

When you take in all the hands posted as a whole it’s extremely likely he’s cheating. Proving he was cheating in a court of law will probably be tough tho. Hope it’s not tho cause I love to see scum get taken down

88 vs TT is ridiccculous. commentator is also thinking something is very fishy but does not want to say it.

also the hand where his opponent had 97cc hand and got completely out of line, and leads/re-raises against the super user on QQx only to get it clicked back in his face by Mike Postle bullshit cards and the stacks were relatively shallow for making this play. people just dont make plays like this in games very often, that hand should set off alarm bells knowing his cards. of course there is that famous ivey hand where they just keep clicking it back and ivey eventually gets the last laugh shoving with air, no one accused ivey of cheating in this spot .....except this is not that case. this guy is no phil ivey he is just a cheater and its kind of disgusting that he will probably get away with it as its very hard to prove for 100% as there is always 99.99999% and I dont expect him to do it again now that hes been put on blast.

joey or doug ... ought to make a video showing some of these clips. if i played with this guy I'd be pretty upset and want some of my money back. super disgraceful.

i mean i am not gonna go through hours of footage watching these line ups to investigate but honestly i watched maybe 5 hands posted and none of them are "super suspicious" let alone proof of cheating imo. don't know this guys reputation and "how sick" his results are but come on weak players make bad plays (or lets be nice and say
sick") all the time, im sure you can watch say the last wsop coverage and find folds that were "ridiculously" nitty, hero calls with weak hands or "creative lines" with random hands

this is just a random example, do u think this hand is suspicious?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4b6fWcNMK8

i will say if he literally never loses a big pot postflop, then i will take it back but based on the hands i saw just looks like a live random guy clicking some buttons, albeit a little smarter than his weak opposition..

for example in the 96o hand vs 98s, if he is really cheating why does he shove the river and not raise again to induce a potential shove? whats the point of shoving?

looks like what they call "donk on donk violence" tbh lol

Stacking off with 54o 3 way pre while folding KK in another hand and both being correct. I would rate those two plays not at all likely to happen by the same player.

He actually had 6 6 vs. The 98hh hand they said the card reader was wrong later when commentators were talking about this hand

Yes, that was my point. I wasn't defending him, I meant that it made him very suspicious.

i watched 5 hands in total and thought quite the opposite. very very suspicious and after seeing 88 hand I was totally convinced. no one is forcing you to sit and watch a bunch of footage.

Also on another note OMGClaydoll -lol @ saying "if he is really cheating why does he shove the river and not raise again to induce a potential shove? whats the point of shoving?". --- If this is the logic you use throughout its not surprising you dont find anything suspicious. Thats like saying in the hand where he folded KK why did he not just open fold it pf to the first 3bet instead of 4bet/folding? ..... because it doesn't always work that way bro!

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Off the top of my head


look at KK fold..

look at 88 hand....

look at hand where opponent had 97cc.... (this bluff was crazy, without knowing dynamics, chance you fold KK pf + just call 88 on 99x-T-8 ... just does not compute)

plenty of others, that might be less suspicious if played in isolation , but when combined with others ... the play is just to uncanny. this clown is definitely cheating.

ok so then that hand goes from maybe a 3/10 suspicious (maybe higher if he normally plays solid preflop) to basically 0/10..

again, im open to the idea if he literally never (or close to never) loses a big pot though that something is up but the reasonings/hands ppl have posted are far from damning as some ppl seem to think and mob psychology etc seem to be part of this/confirming ones biases. kinda like if u already believe/wanna believe sth, and go looking for "evidence" you will be able to convince yourself, like flat earth as someone said, or vaccine conspiracies etc

someone just posted he had 66 not 96o that hand.
can u link me those hands u find crazy suspicious pls?

also i mean look, when "creative" players play each other and click buttons, stuff happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BATK...ature=youtu.be
is the other player cheating?


again, i'm open that if he literally never makes the "wrong" (based on hole card) decisions, in terms of hero calling, etc, it could be off but the evidence seems overrated so far.

ive seen ppl correctly and incorrectly fold big hands before, kk preflop, sets postflop, etc.

https://youtu.be/9L6DueV9aHc

OMGClay,

You don't find this hand outrageous completely aside from his willingness to run really sick bluffs and bet very thin for value?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vaF...outu.be&t=1167

how can you think this guy is not cheating what the hell??

also how the fock can this guy be so fkn stupid to make it so obvious

So when I call a guy down on the river w queen high with no overcards on and just one pair on board and I win I must be cheating? lol.

Math players unite! Burn the witches!

yeah, that hand i can admit for sure is more suspicious than the other hands i've seen.

i'm not saying at all that i'm "sure" he's not cheating, my main point was i think most of the hands have been overstated in terms of how "damning" they are, most of them are barely suspicious in a vacuum given other stuff i've said, but obviously combined with others, it starts to look worse. in other words, most of the hands are ONLY suspicious because of the existence of other hands. if you wanna find vacuum more suspicious hands even random phil ivey classics trump these by far etc

no point of posting strat or giving advice how to cheat but he isnt doing it that smartly if he is, as others mentioned making it obvious, doing it on stream, etc not exactly the best plan.

so to be clear, i would say the chance overall is reasonably high at this point

The RFID reader in that hand was incorrect and he actually had trips no kicker.

Again? What 9x hand did he have then?

By watching some of these videos this has been going on for over a year.

The first question I would ask is: How is he cheating? You have to give me a reasonable thread for me to follow. I'm not saying that's he's not but it's a little unfair to accuse someone and say they are cheating without any real evidence. Are the hands suspicious? Individually Nah but collectively they get you thinking.

Instead of posting tweets or creating a thread here they should have gone to the gaming board. If he was cheating now it's going to be hard to catch him because he knows you're on to him.

I hope he's cheating because he's already got a stain on his reputation and that's hard to shake.

According to the chat/others I've talked to - the RFID reader was wrong in two spots when Mike made a bluff on the river w/96 and when he c/c the river w/ 88 vs TT as he allegedly had 78 on 99T and not 88.

This is according to Mike after the guy in charge of the show asked him why he would ever do that. Very strange that the RFID reader would malfunction like that according to the guy who played the hands in two big river spots, once when as a bluff and once when had a strong hand.

I've also seen Mike c/hero call river w/ 3rd pair+ in a spot where opponents value betting vs bluff range is very very heavily weighted on the side of value and be wrong 0 times so far over 16 hours of play so I don't believe he would c/c 78 on the 88 vs TT hand. When he barrels twice and then rivers the 8. Very low frequency c/c spot even w/ the BDFD/BDSD missing. He seems to play these spots incredibly well when opponent has value or nothing.

So, If I have this correctly, the RFID reader was incorrect on these two occasions, and we are basing this assumption off the player in the game telling the guy in charge this information after the commentators and chat became suspicious of what exactly was happening? The same guy who is being accused of having some type of super using access and the same guy who has access to all the back end and also has spoken about the investigation that took place at some point?



For those saying this, they should go read the HHs I posted last night as they are all from continuous session and aren't random hands from one session here or there. Game flow is also explained in some of the hands.

cant believe someone would go through 14 hours of live footage, to try and find out if some whale is cheating. are you ok joey?

he would have to have installed a remote access tool on the computer doing the live overlay, and have a buddy relaying the info. has he ever been in the booth? could quickly plug in a usb stick. does he have a compute background?

rfid transmits a max of 18 inches, maybe somethings possible there too, unlikely

hes not making any tragic mistakes, like folding full house vs full house, calling with ten high.

In TT vs 88 hand Mike is clearly crotch texting with his phone... or in this case having hands sent to him... Looks like a cheater to me.