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Old 09-30-2019, 10:26 AM   #51
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Can players sue him or the casino if found cheating?
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:13 AM   #52
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If this was Garrett instead of mike Joey would be worshiping his sweaty nuts and getting him on the pod ASAP (wait he’s already done that). Nit pros are mad at a lag action player because he’s running hot at the moment.

Breaking down his game publicly and accusing him of seeing hole cards in a live game is 1. Unprofessional and 2. Ruining the much needed and missed action no limit has been missing for years and years.

This is why games have gone to ****. This is why no limit is basically dead. This is why most action poker players avoid casinos and play in private games instead.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:22 AM   #53
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If this was Garrett instead of mike Joey would be worshiping his sweaty nuts and getting him on the pod ASAP (wait he’s already done that). Nit pros are mad at a lag action player because he’s running hot at the moment.

Breaking down his game publicly and accusing him of seeing hole cards in a live game is 1. Unprofessional and 2. Ruining the much needed and missed action no limit has been missing for years and years.

This is why games have gone to ****. This is why no limit is basically dead. This is why most action poker players avoid casinos and play in private games instead.
Hi Mike, what's up?

Do you know what Garrett does? Blasts off into the nuts. Do you know what Mike never does? Blasts off into the nuts.
Do you know what Garrett does? Massive hero folds that are wrong. Do you know what Mike never does? Massive hero folds that are wrong.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:32 AM   #54
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How many hours of footage do we have on mike vs garret? And how many total hands is that? Sample sizes are incredibly small and fortunately for mike it’s been great so far.

The nits and colluding pros ran off most of the action players in no limit, and for that I haven’t played a single hand of no limit in 2+ years. If the average poker game had at least 1 mike in them, the no limit boom would still be going strong.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:33 AM   #55
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If this was Garrett instead of mike Joey would be worshiping his sweaty nuts and getting him on the pod ASAP (wait heís already done that). Nit pros are mad at a lag action player because heís running hot at the moment.

Breaking down his game publicly and accusing him of seeing hole cards in a live game is 1. Unprofessional and 2. Ruining the much needed and missed action no limit has been missing for years and years.

This is why games have gone to ****. This is why no limit is basically dead. This is why most action poker players avoid casinos and play in private games instead.
Oh I must have missed the hands in which Mike gave action with 62o and paid off people left and right in massive pots. Can you please show me the hands you are talking about?
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:12 PM   #56
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Can players sue him or the casino if found cheating?
If so, I wonder how much evidence would be enough evidence. If the casino investigates, which they undoubtedly will, and finds there was some vulnerability through which he could have been cheating, as long as there's only hand histories to go by, he can always pull the "but I'm just very good" card and no one would ever know for certain.

It's pretty damn telling that Joey went through hours of footage with no real misplays found while playing like some LAG god soul reading people left and right but in court you obviously have to be a bit more careful than on an internet forum.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:28 PM   #57
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Was wondering how long it would take Chicago Joey to go on a binge investigating this, haha.
You’re the man, Joey.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:38 PM   #58
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If so, I wonder how much evidence would be enough evidence. If the casino investigates, which they undoubtedly will, and finds there was some vulnerability through which he could have been cheating, as long as there's only hand histories to go by, he can always pull the "but I'm just very good" card and no one would ever know for certain.

It's pretty damn telling that Joey went through hours of footage with no real misplays found while playing like some LAG god soul reading people left and right but in court you obviously have to be a bit more careful than on an internet forum.
If I know my opponent's cards I'll make no misplays either. I'll make amazing bluffs to get them off Ahigh or weak pairs and I'll make amazing folds or only call a worse FH whenever I know I'm beat. I'll also check back and give up my TP as soon as my opp hits his str8 on turn. You see how good I'll play? I'll also mix in some hollywood acting to sell my plays.
This is looking shady af!

To the folks who are defending him, show me a hand where he pays someone off by calling a bet or raise OTR in a 4-figure pot and I'll leave this thread.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:51 PM   #59
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show me a hand where he pays someone off by calling a bet or raise OTR in a 4-figure pot and I'll leave this thread.
Here, look at this fish calling it off dead on the river in a 100bb pot! Clear evidence of nothing funky going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vaF...outu.be&t=1167

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Old 09-30-2019, 12:58 PM   #60
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Here, look at this fish calling it off dead on the river in a 100bb pot! Clear evidence of nothing funky going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vaF...outu.be&t=1167

That's why I said 4-figure pot to exclude that hand. He has no choice but to call here otherwise too obv.

Seriously though, he ships AI with 3rd pair vs river raise but here just ch/c with a boat? Vs same opponent I think btw.
Last year on stream the commentators actually said that he almost never has losing sessions. Someone calling 3bets with 52o never loses? This is some potripper **** right here.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:03 PM   #61
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That's why I said 4-figure pot to exclude that hand. He has no choice but to call here otherwise too obv.

Seriously though, he ships AI with 3rd pair vs river raise but here just ch/c with a boat?
Last year on stream the commentators actually said that he almost never has losing sessions. Someone calling 3bets with 52o never loses? This is some potripper **** right here.
I was being sarcastic m8, the hand screams super-user who knows people are watching on stream Not shoving is ridiculous

Considering he has played everything from 5/5 to like 25/50/100 on that stream it's odd for you to put a $$ amount on it btw..
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:06 PM   #62
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I was being sarcastic m8, the hand screams super-user who knows people are watching on stream Not shoving is ridiculous

Considering he has played everything from 5/5 to like 25/50/100 on that stream it's odd for you to put a $$ amount on it btw..
I know, sorry. That's why I gave you the

Can't wait for a Joey video about this.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:19 PM   #63
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This one feels rather special.

A professional for 16 years obviously knows when the SB raises and moneymaker 3bets that one should obviously defend with 54o after making the blind re-straddle to 45 preflop. Then when the SB jams and moneymaker rejams for $4k, well obviously put them both on AK because like duh obviously what else could they have?

https://youtu.be/yK4aWk93ug4?t=11205


Mike Postle is truly the GOAT confirmed.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:20 PM   #64
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Watched all of the hands Joey posted and pretty much no way he didn't have access to everyone's hole cards.

The check call with the full house in 88 vs 1010 hand was the most telling in my opinion. In a vacuum could just be written off as extreme nittery, but then you see him raising 54 facing a bet and call on KK5Q when he is good and didn't hesitate betting his 8's full on JJQ8K in a spot where they are deeper and his opponent is going to have better full houses more often than the hand where he check called.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:47 PM   #65
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lmao guy is 100% cheating ainec the 54o hand is literally proof
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:50 PM   #66
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After many hours hitting L on the keyboard watching these youtube videos here are the only hands I have found Mr. Postle to have put money in badly on the turn and/or river.

https://youtu.be/yK4aWk93ug4?t=13646

This is probably the only hand which I have seen him put $$$ in bad on the river.

https://youtu.be/Bp4kg_5q2_o?t=1297

Another hand which he put some money in badly postflop although it is probably the minimum one would expect to put JJ vs. KK on this particular runout.

https://youtu.be/Bp4kg_5q2_o?t=6401

Here he bets 1/4 pot on the river when another player rivers a bigger straight after bombing the flop (he checked turn when flush appeared on board).

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Old 09-30-2019, 01:54 PM   #67
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lmao 88 vs TT hand is also 100% proof of cheating, so stupid and greedy to not shove there and is something only an idiot cheater would do
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:54 PM   #68
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That's why I said 4-figure pot to exclude that hand. He has no choice but to call here otherwise too obv.

Seriously though, he ships AI with 3rd pair vs river raise but here just ch/c with a boat? Vs same opponent I think btw.
Last year on stream the commentators actually said that he almost never has losing sessions. Someone calling 3bets with 52o never loses? This is some potripper **** right here.
The action and positions are different. You cannot directly compare them together (and I hope whoever investigates realizes this.). Seems he understands ranges and his opponents love polarizing in spots where they never have it. Combine the live reads/ aspect it’s almost free money. Games at the stone look amazing.

Don’t bluff in spots where you have air 90% of the time against someone who knows what ranges and polarizing is and is clearly not intimidated by the money being played for

The most suspect hand is 45 vs ak ak
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:00 PM   #69
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lmao 88 vs TT hand is also 100% proof of cheating, so stupid and greedy to not shove there and is something only an idiot cheater would do
Lol this guy. Mayo why donít you consult on the side. Youíre a well known cheat / colluder (caught and banned fwiw), please share more cheating secrets
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:10 PM   #70
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Not to get off topic but that's even how science works: You don't try to prove stuff by showing that things add up, you attempt to disprove it, and when you can't disprove something no matter how you try, THEN it's considered true.
Lol that's not how science works. No one says "I hypothesize X is true, try and disprove it." If what you say was right, tons of pseudoscience would be considered true, since it can't be proven to be false. If you make a claim, the burden is on you to prove that it's likely true, not on other people to prove it's falsehood.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:15 PM   #71
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Joey, there is hand where he folded kk preflop with like 3k behind when guy 4 or 5bets to 1500.... guy had As onv. Think shorty was allin already pre also. This was few weeks ago
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:27 PM   #72
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Here, look at this fish calling it off dead on the river in a 100bb pot! Clear evidence of nothing funky going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vaF...outu.be&t=1167

Not jamming on that river sure seems like super using to me. Pretty blatant.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:27 PM   #73
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Lol this guy. Mayo why donít you consult on the side. Youíre a well known cheat / colluder (caught and banned fwiw), please share more cheating secrets
If you think that pocket 88 vs 10s hand is normal... you definitely don't know **** about poker Mike.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:28 PM   #74
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Lol that's not how science works. No one says "I hypothesize X is true, try and disprove it." If what you say was right, tons of pseudoscience would be considered true, since it can't be proven to be false. If you make a claim, the burden is on you to prove that it's likely true, not on other people to prove it's falsehood.
I never said anything about who the burden of proof is on. You're attacking a strawman.

There are TONS of ways to support the model of a flat earth (seriously, look them up). It doesn't make it true. What does make it not true is that it just takes a single thing to ruin it: Ships going over the horizon, for example.

Hypothesis testing never says the hypothesis (whichever one you're running) is true, the results always only reach "We reject the alternative hypothesis"

All that said, an aggregate of a lot of testing strengthens ones theory (in this case: Mike playing hands amazingly), but it would still basically be better to have just one showing the opposite (Mike punting off a stack he didn't have to). The complete lack of "punting" hands" (punting results wise) are in my opinion an even stronger proof than all the hands he played "great"

Like, how does he always call and then outplay postflop when he has AK vs AK or QQ vs QQ? Ridiculous
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This sent me down bit of a rabbit hole, great work Joey, some very suspect ****.
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