Jesus christ this thread is toxic. Imagine being a casual fan of poker, hearing about this challenge and then reading this thread. some of yall just need to calm the **** down. This is a epic event and people are freaking out about a betting site and what percentage dude has.

Its a gambling site bud

Yep yep yep. Lets be honest; Perkins is just a massive, massive, massive attention seeker who tries to make everything about him & uses philanthropy as marketing.

Would he give away $1 if he couldn't advertise the donation? I'm not so sure.

Who cares what the terms are; there's no way this is getting off the ground

lolol what a line.

Is pokershares governed by a regulatory body? I’m sure that’s who makes the final decision, regardless of TOS



Here ya go

Let's keep this thread about the actual challenge please. Sidebet stuff is obv. ok.

ya know i dont give a **** what these dicks say the more I see from this Landon kid the more I like him. kids got hustle and he always be closing. I will be betting him to win for sure

What exactly does "relative" net worth mean? He's either got a large amount of his net worth on it or he doesn't. Seems reasonable to assume he means he will increase his net worth a lot if he wins but hardly lose anything if he loses.

Interesting challenge anyway and props to both sides for getting it together.

Then I've been misinformed and concede.

I think he means his net worth it small but he has a good chunk of it in this challenge.

you could be right though, I do not have any idea as to whom pokershares answers to in a regulatory sense. I feel like these questions are why you want to just keep customers happy instead of pissing them off

I think this is a bit of a misconception about bookmaking - bookmaking basically works like this, Man Utd +0.5 vs Man City -0.5 is a straight even money shot, the Bookies give you 1.94 either side and you get to pick your side and sweat the football. The ultimate goal for them is everyone bets both sides they make the juice and a load of customers have a good day watching the footy and some win, some lose.

If the bookies were making their money by Offering "Man Utd to be winning the Game" market 2.25 then not paying people after Man Utd win because they were 1-0 down at one point (thus tricking people into making a bet they thought was good by vaguely describing the bet) then I'd agree with you, suck it up and pay when you word a market badly. This mistakes can only ever really be against them too.

This being said its in every TOS of every bookie they don't have to honour bets in these spots, I've had 200 examples + in my life of not being paid in spots where there was obvious errors so in TC decided to go to court he would be drawing stone dead, so how we all interpret it is irrelevant.

One thing I would also say in PokerShares defence, they are the only ones pricing up these markets, putting up pretty fair spreads and taking decent action, lot easier pricing up a soccer game 200 other bookies have with a betfair/pin market behind it. Credit where credits due it's pretty fair bookmaking imo, I wouldn't be standing those bets.

Biggest misconception of bookmaking is they want equal action on both sides

The poker world needs more talent like Landon, who put in the time and make an effort to reach their goals.

I bet he does not spend a lot of his time worrying about what other people think of him.

I wish him all of the best for this match and his future.

I kind of agree with this.

In the past the poker world has made hero's out of degens or rec players who have basically binked a lottery ticket.

I think its hard to bash a guy who clearly has a great work ethic and skill set.

Well the principal of being a bookie is you price a market and charge punters juice to pick the side they side they wanna bet.

Of course there's instances where they wanna weight the book but ask any bookie if there want a green book or big position on an nfl or epl game and they'll say green book.

Anyway big derail enough on this!

This Landan character seems like a nice enthusiastic kid, gl to him and fair play to Perkins he might be a rich guy but he's not scared to get in action which you gotta respect

From their web site PokerShares is licensed in Curacao:

Suggest you do your own research as to whether or not a Curacao license is a reputable one or not.

Land on ice?

I don’t care if it’s reputable or not. I am curious as to what they would rule in this situation.

Since you’re suggesting I do my own research - how should I start ?

Google “Is Curacao gambling agency legitimate?”

Seems like it’s a scam lmao! Ty for that.

Is there anywhere else I can bet on Landon? I’d rather not use a casino that falls underneath this regulatory body- assuming the following is true

https://www.gamblingsites.org/laws/curacao/


The greatest disadvantage of a license from Curacao is that it doesn’t have much meaning. Just about anyone serious about starting a gambling site can afford the fees and make it through the initial investigation. As long as you have the cash and a fair casino, you’re pretty much in.

Players are well aware that the licensing standards in places like Curacao don’t mean much compared to licenses from other, more discerning jurisdictions. Casinos licensed by Curacao have suddenly gone rogue, stolen money, and disappeared. Curacao doesn’t intervene in disputes between players and operators. From the player’s point of view, a license from Curacao is meaningless.

Wasn't meaning to be snarky in my response, was simply suggesting that it's up to the individual if they trust a license/company or not and that doing your own research is a good idea.

Agreed that Curacao isn't generally recognized as one of the better jurisdictions.

Oh dear

License jurisdictions are not there to solve customer disputes, if anyone have ever tried to take a dispute to a regulator they will have experienced this, in the case of TIMEX vs TERRENCE, any regulator be it curacao or the UKGC (renkowned as one of the strictest outside the US) would likely ignore the complaint as stand, simply put it's not their job, they would only intervene if the site did something that directly broke it's regulatory terms (i.e stole money, or as in the UK case didn't do affordability checks etc)

Curacao is the easiest place to get a license, doesn't make a site less legit because it has a Curacao license, what it means is they've had to go through a less expensive and intense DD process to get their license, that's just one piece of many information to consider when picking a bookie.

Basically it boils down to this - do you trust the bookie, PS is obviously fronted by Timex, if you think he's the sort of bloke who'll pay you if you win and wont nick your money then doesn't matter if PS are licensed by Curacao or the Moon, if you don't trust him then same again even if licensed in the UK you're better off steering clear.

Landon is considered a fish by everyone who has been lucky enough to play him on ACR, wouldn’t be surprised if he loses to BP