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Jason Koon to run 100 m under 10.9 seconds? Jason Koon to run 100 m under 10.9 seconds?

05-15-2021 , 11:45 AM
I think the most likely thing is he’ll injure himself too much training for it than ever getting a serious attempt in
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05-15-2021 , 11:55 AM
Koon agreed to a 7-figure bet, and the guy tried to weasel out of it. Funny that everyone paid so much attention some random Twitter troll

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05-15-2021 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Koon agreed to a 7-figure bet, and the guy tried to weasel out of it. Funny that everyone paid so much attention some random Twitter troll
Perhaps a group can come up with $2M, or whatever amount Koon is willing to do the bet for. Most seem skeptical that he can do it, and I concur.
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05-15-2021 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
The magic barrier is 10 seconds. If you can make it under 10 sec youre world class. Meaning yourre one of a few that can do it. 11 seconds is close.
11 seconds is not even remotely close to 10 seconds in 100m. That’s just absurd.

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Originally Posted by washoe
Yea freshman, not 36. He probably wants to get back into training, but 10.9 not gonna happen imo. if he stays under 12 good.
Lol. If he’s serious about running 10.9 in a year, he’s able to run sub 12 right now or with minimal preparation.
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05-15-2021 , 02:45 PM
The chance of Koon being able to do this at 35 is close to 0%.
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05-15-2021 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
The chance of Koon being able to do this at 35 is close to 0%.
he'll be at least 36 when attempting this, if it ever happens (it won't).
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05-15-2021 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
11 seconds is not even remotely close to 10 seconds in 100m. That’s just absurd.


Lol. If he’s serious about running 10.9 in a year, he’s able to run sub 12 right now or with minimal preparation.
its all fairly relative.. sub 11 in high school is pretty good, probably 1-2 people per school. go to top d1 schools, and sub 10 is gonna be fairly frequent too and 11s will get you laughed at.

agree with 2nd part.

if this is him, and 10.86 is his best ever college time, i think he has about zero chance. to attain the same level as your PEAK, is gonna be nearly impossible. if he were casually putting up 10.4/10.5 then maybe... but still hard

and how is unlimited attempts an issue? its very hard to randomly bink a miracle 100m. and its running.. practice and doing it are the same thing

Last edited by gamboneee; 05-15-2021 at 04:11 PM. Reason: fwiw i was beating his college times in hs
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05-15-2021 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyBu
I think the most likely thing is he’ll injure himself too much training for it than ever getting a serious attempt in
Most spot-on post yet.
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05-15-2021 , 04:39 PM
One possibility I haven't seen mentioned - maybe he wants to bet because of an asymmetry in information about how hard he was working when he hit his PB in college and how hard/efficiently he could work now?

In other words, maybe the reason he thinks he can do as well as his personal best in college even though he is much older is because he knows he wasn't doing a lot of things right then - diet, training techniques, even dedication - and feels that if he did all those things right now with everything that he has learnt he would have a chance of making up for being older now.

Not saying if that's realistic or not but he's obviously a smart guy and its not like he doesn't know enough to know all the reasons people in this thread think he won't be able to do it so he must have a reason for thinking he can.
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05-15-2021 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
One possibility I haven't seen mentioned - maybe he wants to bet because of an asymmetry in information about how hard he was working when he hit his PB in college and how hard/efficiently he could work now?

In other words, maybe the reason he thinks he can do as well as his personal best in college even though he is much older is because he knows he wasn't doing a lot of things right then - diet, training techniques, even dedication - and feels that if he did all those things right now with everything that he has learnt he would have a chance of making up for being older now.

Not saying if that's realistic or not but he's obviously a smart guy and its not like he doesn't know enough to know all the reasons people in this thread think he won't be able to do it so he must have a reason for thinking he can.
No, all of that was mentioned by SimpleRick. He just used fewer words:

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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Straight delusional.
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05-15-2021 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
One possibility I haven't seen mentioned - maybe he wants to bet because of an asymmetry in information about how hard he was working when he hit his PB in college and how hard/efficiently he could work now?
yeah, lots of college athletes dont try to do well..

even with a much better diet, 18 years of aging and post-peak is going to be a tall order to overcome imo
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05-15-2021 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
One possibility I haven't seen mentioned - maybe he wants to bet because of an asymmetry in information about how hard he was working when he hit his PB in college and how hard/efficiently he could work now?
That’s a given. Otherwise the whole thing would be pretty pointless.
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05-15-2021 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Unless this is some sort of angle and he's gonna run downhill or something Koon has zero chance of running 100m in 10.9 seconds.
I agree. Insane bet.
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05-15-2021 , 07:26 PM
You kinda don't see it unless you've raced but the difference between 10.99 and 9.99 is huge... his age isnt a restriction I know 40yr olds run under 11. Depends on how much money is on the line as the training isnt insignificant but betting 7 figures against this seems dumb. A lot of 100m is the start too so 1 race vs PB even over a year is a significant difference in the bet.
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05-15-2021 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
You kinda don't see it unless you've raced but the difference between 10.99 and 9.99 is huge... his age isnt a restriction I know 40yr olds run under 11. Depends on how much money is on the line as the training isnt insignificant but betting 7 figures against this seems dumb. A lot of 100m is the start too so 1 race vs PB even over a year is a significant difference in the bet.
Age is always a restriction
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05-15-2021 , 11:32 PM
I'd bet against him unless he's a world class type of athlete.

10.9s automatic is no joke in the 100m. That's professional athlete speed.

There are running backs and receivers in the NFL who can't hit that number.

So with all due respect, I would take that action all day.

The average fit adult male in good physical condition can't hit 11.9s, much less 10.9s.
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05-16-2021 , 12:31 AM
In the end, he will get in amazing shape, but will have to buy out of the prop once he see's there's no chance.
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05-16-2021 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPoon
Great Jesult!

For real, his acceleration is insane!
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05-16-2021 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
10.9s automatic is no joke in the 100m. That's professional athlete speed.

There are running backs and receivers in the NFL who can't hit that number.
Depends on the athlete. As you said, it's faster than most people in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, and so forth. I agree that most running backs can't do it, although most receivers probably can. A 10.9 sprinter in the 100m is largely in the range of a NFLer running a 4.5 40†.

In the world of track & field, it's an average Division I collegiate sprinter. I posted a bunch of data above about where that time rates in the world of NCAA sprinters. But if it further helps illustrate where this rates, UC Davis had three sprinters run the 100-meter dash at six different meets for us this year. This is from a Division I mid-major school that finished smack dab in the middle of the Big West Conference, but had this year's league champ. These were our times:

10.67 - Big West champion
10.67
10.78
10.82**
10.84
10.87
10.88
10.89
10.97
11.00*
11.04
11.06
11.07
11.11
11.13

* aided by a wind of greater than 2.0 m/s but less than 4.0 (i.e. does not count for records)
** aided by a wind of greater than 4.0 m/s (i.e. does not qualify for NCAA postseason)

However, for his age group, 10.9 would put him among the top few dozen performers in the world... as is also noted above.

All in all, I like James Obst's chances of making Wimbledon than Koon's chances of performing this feat, and I don't like Obst's chances at all.

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†Yes, yes, I know... you can't really create an equivalent between a 100m dash and the 40-yard run at the NFL combine because of what they actually indicate. The latter doesn't start from a block, and its length favors someone with a quick start. A top sprinter with a relatively slow start – e.g. Michael Johnson – would have less impressive 40 times compared to other runners who don't measure up as well over 100m.
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05-16-2021 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
That’s really unfair Rick. Someone asked Koon what he thought he could do, he said 10.9, and David Joseph immediately said no chance, offered to escrow 5mm tomorrow etc, Koon didn’t bite at all at first, Joseph persisted, then Koon said he would give it a go for 2m and Joseph immediately shat his pants and tried to renegotiate a small charity bet. David Joseph is the pathetic one here.
Yeah maybe I was being too hard on JKoon.
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05-16-2021 , 04:45 AM
This bet was ripe.
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05-16-2021 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
And while youre at it, do me a favor and compare prime mike tyson at 18 and then at 36. You see the difference? He was unstoppable at 18 but very stoppable at 36. Its called biology. At 36 youre pretty much toast in any sport that requires much power. Athletes at this age do much better at endurance type sports such as marathons, surfing (where skill and experience kicks in) but not at short distances.
Tell that to Kim Collins.
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05-16-2021 , 07:55 AM
Everyone on 2+2 is a track&field expert all of a sudden.
You guys are hillarious
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05-16-2021 , 08:03 AM
You're right, everyone stop posting IMMEDIATELY in this thread because nobody is an expert.

You're not allowed guys, Vrael111 has said so!
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05-16-2021 , 12:19 PM
Watching this bet go down with frequent updates would be ***** amazing, but also think Koon is drawing very thin.
PEDs or not, his body probably wont hold up to the conditioning/training required to get there. 36yo and sub 11 is probably something that professionals, who have been training for this their whole life, can put up, but to think that Jason Koon can get there off the bat, is pretty crazy to me.
It would be one hell of a ride and i would be so excited to see how this progresses.
Does anyone know what Jason Koon can throw down right now? Think there's 0 chance that such a smart guy would just offer this bet without doing some research. He probably has a pretty good idea how doable this is, but for me this is absolutely insane.
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